

Banking on Digital Growth
James Robert Lay
If you’re part of a financial brand marketing, sales, or leadership team, you know the entire industry is in the midst of exponential change fueled by new technologies. Consumers now make purchase decisions long before they walk into a physical branch location, if they walk into a branch at all, while mobile banks, digital lenders, and fintechs have transformed traditional growth models rooted in legacy broadcast marketing and branch sales strategies.Get ready to gain practical insights, proven ideas, and empowering inspiration as financial brand marketing and sales leaders, along with the leading digital marketing and sales technology firms, share their stories to help you maximize your digital growth potential here on Banking on Digital Growth.
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Jun 17, 2025 • 45min
463) Beyond Vanity: Measuring What Really Matters in Financial Marketing
Most financial institutions struggle to measure what really matters in their marketing. They track impressions, clicks, and followers—but not meaningful outcomes like loan conversions, account openings, or user friction. This leads to wasted budgets, unclear ROI, and missed opportunities to optimize the digital experience.Without clear, actionable analytics, marketing becomes a black box. Leadership gets frustrated. Teams lose confidence. And worst of all—growth stalls because no one can see what’s actually working. In a time when budgets are tight and expectations are high, guessing is no longer a viable strategy.James Robert and Derik explore how financial brands can transform marketing from a cost center into a growth engine by measuring progress in smarter, simpler ways. From high-level KPIs to on-page performance insights, they unpack what to track, why it matters, and how to start seeing through the noise to what actually drives growth.You can find this episode and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Jun 10, 2025 • 35min
462) Beyond Aesthetics: Driving Conversions Through Data-Driven Design
Most marketing teams are stuck in a turf war—and it’s costing financial brands real growth. On one side, brand teams are chasing awareness. On the other, performance marketers are pushing for conversions. Both mean well. But without a shared strategy, they're pulling in opposite directions—and the only real result is internal competition, wasted budget, and missed growth opportunities.In this episode of the Banking on Digital Growth Podcast, James Robert Lay and co-host Derik Krauss return to bridge the divide between art and science in financial brand marketing. They unpack how collaborative cultures, rooted in testing and iteration, transform subjective ideas into measurable outcomes. You’ll learn how to turn gut-based marketing into data-driven performance, why AB testing isn't just for emails, and how small conversion lifts can lead to million-dollar gains.You can find this episode and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Jun 3, 2025 • 27min
461) Art vs. Science: Transforming Digital Marketing in Financial Institutions
Digital marketing in many financial institutions still leans heavily on the art—intuition, creativity, and guesswork—while neglecting the science of performance data, testing, and iterative optimization. As a result, efforts often lack measurable ROI and fail to meaningfully move the needle on loans and deposits.The stakes have never been higher. Digital noise is at an all-time high. AI is flooding the market with more content than ever before. If marketing is not grounded in data and constant experimentation, it's just decoration—pretty, but ineffective. Financial brands that ignore the science behind digital growth risk wasting budget, losing trust, and falling behind competitors who are measuring what matters and learning faster.James Robert Lay and Derik Krauss explore how financial brands can integrate the art of storytelling and design with the science of data, testing, and behavioral insight. They’ll introduce a balanced approach—combining empathy-driven messaging with A/B testing, conversion tracking, and funnel optimization—to drive smarter, more scalable results.Join us as we discuss:-The Importance of Measuring Marketing Success (5:07)-Practical Steps to Integrate Science into Marketing (11:58)-Conversion Funnels and Their Impact (15:43)You can find this episode and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

May 27, 2025 • 41min
460) Banking’s Innovator’s Dilemma: What Got You Here Won’t Get You There
Let’s be honest—too many financial brands are still operating like it’s 1999. Websites stuck in the past. Strategies rooted in branch-first thinking. Growth models that haven’t evolved with consumer expectations. In this reboot of Banking on Digital Growth, host James Robert Lay is joined by new co-host Derik Krauss, co-founder of MetriFi, for a no-holds-barred conversation about what it really takes to lead in a digital-first world.If you're tired of hearing "digital transformation" without seeing real action, this episode is your wake-up call. From the hidden cost of digital blind spots to the hard truth of The Innovator’s Dilemma, James and Derik unpack how banks and credit unions can escape outdated thinking—and why the website must be the starting point.Join us as we discuss:-The Pre-Internet Mindset in Financial Institutions-Personal Banking Preferences and Generational Differences-The Innovator's Dilemma in Financial ServicesYou can find this episode and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

May 20, 2025 • 14min
459) Rebooting Banking on Digital Growth: A New Chapter Begins
Feeling stuck in the digital banking landscape? The hosts share their transformative journey and the insights gained during a much-needed break. They emphasize the urgency for change and unveil exciting new initiatives aimed at supporting entrepreneurs. A new co-host joins the conversation, shedding light on the hidden pitfalls in digital journeys. Listeners are called to action, with resources like a benchmarking tool designed to enhance their digital presence in a rapidly evolving world.

Dec 17, 2024 • 32min
458) The Long Game of Marketing: Planting Seeds for Future Growth
In this episode of the Banking on Digital Growth podcast, host James Robert Lay is joined by Billy Wilkinson, CEO of Threshold, the agency that will make you rethink how you market your everything, to explore the transformative power of marketing in the financial services industry. Together, they discuss the importance of mastering the fundamentals—what Billy calls "blocking and tackling"—to build a strong foundation for digital growth. They highlight the need for community financial institutions to rethink their approach to marketing, shifting from short-term tactics to long-term strategies that influence trust and behavior.Billy shares practical insights on bridging the gap between sales and marketing to create unified strategies that deliver measurable ROI. They discuss the challenges of navigating rapid technological change, the value of fostering a culture of continuous learning, and how financial brands can differentiate by supporting local entrepreneurs and creating community connections. Whether you're an executive, marketer, or entrepreneur, this episode offers actionable advice to help you grow, learn, and level up in the digital age.Join us as we discuss:-Evolution of banking technology and digital adoption (5:00)-The role of marketing as influence and long-term strategies (15:30)-Community engagements and support for entrepreneurs (27:00)You can find this episode and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Dec 10, 2024 • 44min
457) From Artificial to Authentic: Rethinking AI's Role in Human Connection and Banking
In an era where artificial intelligence (AI) dominates headlines and disrupts industries, financial brand leaders face a dilemma: is "artificial" truly good for building trust, fostering connection, and driving growth? In this episode, James Robert Lay and guest Ethan Wall, president of the Social Media Law Firm, explore the power of authentic intelligence—leveraging empathy, human connection, and wisdom gained through experience to navigate change. They discuss practical ways financial brands can integrate AI responsibly while remaining true to their mission of improving lives. Together, they uncover how to balance technology with humanity, overcome fear, and embrace continuous transformation for sustainable growth.Join us as we discuss:-The Evolution of Social Media in Financial Services (11:49)-The Role of AI and Authentic Intelligence (24:39)-Practical Advice for Financial Brand Leaders (37:48)You can find this episode and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Dec 2, 2024 • 40min
456) Small Businesses, Big Potential: Navigating Change in Community Banking
Small business owners and community financial institutions face significant challenges in navigating the rapidly changing landscape of AI and digital growth. Limited knowledge and outdated beliefs can hinder future growth and collaboration opportunities, particularly in the SBA lending space.By having a growth mindset, continuous learning, and authentic intelligence. The conversation with Shane Pierson, Purveyor of Honest Capital proposes practical steps, such as regularly reviewing personal and professional growth, fostering emotional intelligence, and leveraging technological advancements in AI. By doing so, financial brands and their teams can better connect with customers, create meaningful content, and build a community that drives future conversions and sustainable growth.Join us as we discuss:-Evolution of SBA Lending (03:04) -Challenges and Changes in Banking (10:32) -The Role of Emotional Intelligence (16:15) You can find this episode and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Nov 25, 2024 • 38min
455) Transform Your Relationship with Money: Changing Beliefs and Building Wealth
For many, money feels more like a burden than a blessing. Guilt, shame, fear, and self-sabotage often sabotage our ability to achieve financial freedom, leading to cycles of stress and unfulfilled goals. These struggles aren't just about numbers—they're rooted in deep-seated beliefs formed early in life. Julia Carlson, author of Money Loves You: Transform Your Relationship with Money and Grow Your Wealth. Julia shares how subconscious beliefs and outdated "rules" about money can hold us back, and how financial coaching—centered on mindset transformation—can help us move forward.In this episode, Julia joins James Robert Lay to explore how to reframe your money story and break through limiting beliefs to achieve lasting financial health. Whether you're a financial leader, advisor, or someone seeking clarity in your own financial journey, this episode offers actionable steps to create a more empowered relationship with money.Join us as we discuss:-Money as a Partner: Changing Perspectives (6:26)-Personal Money Narratives and Transformations (10:45)-The Role of Coaching in Financial Growth (28:30)You can find this episode and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Nov 19, 2024 • 42min
454) Building Trust in Banking: The Modern Banker and the Wisdom Economy
Trust, composed of both words and actions, is now harder to maintain as customers have become more knowledgeable and have a wide array of financial service options beyond traditional banks. The shift from a personal, relationship-focused banking experience to a more automated, regulation-heavy environment has eroded trust between banks and their clients. Jack Hubbard, co-founder of the Modern Banker and co-host of the Modern Banker Podcast, believes that adopting a trust-based selling approach where bankers act as resource managers will allow them to focus on solving customer problems rather than merely selling products. This requires a congruent message from the bank's leadership down to its culture and an emphasis on continuous education and development for bankers. Because the ultimate goal is to create a modern banker who is prepared to face the evolving challenges of the industry with wisdom, adaptability, and a customer-first mindset.Join us as we discuss:-The Modern Banker: Redefining Roles and Building Trust (07:18) -The Evolution of Trust in Banking (26:37) -The Future of Banking: AI and Trust-Based Selling (34:55) You can find this episode and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.


