
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis
A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years.The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co
Latest episodes

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May 22, 2025 • 1h 1min
The Perfect Substrate for AGI, with Replit CEO Amjad Masad
Amjad Masad, the visionary founder and CEO of Replit, dives into the dynamic landscape of AI-assisted coding. He shares how 'vibe coding' enhances creativity and efficiency for users. The discussion highlights Replit's strategic advantages and the role of open-source AI models in navigating complex challenges. Masad emphasizes the importance of user-friendly interfaces and the balance between flexibility and ecosystem loyalty. He also explores the potential of reinforcement learning and autonomous AI, setting the stage for future innovations in the tech industry.

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May 20, 2025 • 1h 44min
The RAISE Act: Minimum Standards for Frontier AI Development, with NY Assembly Member Alex Bores
Alex Bores, a New York State Assembly Member and tech advocate, discusses the RAISE Act, his initiative to establish fundamental safety standards for large AI developers. He shares insights from his tech background and emphasizes the need for clear safety protocols and third-party audits in AI development. The conversation tackles challenges of AI integration in sectors like healthcare, the balance between innovation and public safety, and the imperative for whistleblower protections. Bores encourages public and industry involvement to refine the bill, aiming for responsible AI practices.

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May 17, 2025 • 1h 48min
Gemini Robotics – AI for the Physical World, with Keerthana Gopalakrishnan and Ted Xiao of Google DeepMind
Keerthana Gopalakrishnan and Ted Xiao, researchers at Google DeepMind specializing in Gemini Robotics, delve into groundbreaking advances in robotics. They discuss the rise of humanoid robots and explore how imitation learning is reshaping real-world robotic tasks. The duo highlights the need for embodied reasoning to enhance the practical deployment of robots. Key insights include the importance of effective data in training models and the balance between high-level planning and real-time adaptability, revealing a future where robots integrate more seamlessly into daily life.

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May 15, 2025 • 2h 11min
Titans: Neural Long-Term Memory for LLMs, with author Ali Behrouz
In this engaging discussion, Ali Behrouz, a PhD student from Cornell University, shares insights from his research on enhancing memory in large language models. He introduces the Titans architecture, which mimics human-like memory to tackle coherence challenges in AI. Key topics include the limitations of current models and innovative solutions to catastrophic forgetting. Behrouz also highlights the potential of specialized LLMs in corporate settings, revealing the necessity for improved memory mechanisms to unlock AI's full capabilities in the workplace.

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May 11, 2025 • 1h 20min
Luma Labs' Diffusion Revolution: from Dream Machine to Multimodal Worldsim - Amit Jain, Jiaming Song
In this discussion, Amit Jain, CEO of Luma Labs, and Jiaming Song, Chief Scientist at the same firm, unveil groundbreaking advancements in video generation technology. They dive into the nuances of diffusion models, exploring innovative techniques like classifier-free guidance for better AI prediction accuracy. The conversation touches on the philosophical implications of AGI and the importance of high-quality data. Stephen Parker adds insights on creative storytelling and the interplay between traditional filmmaking techniques and modern AI capabilities.

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May 8, 2025 • 2h 3min
OpenAI's Identity Crisis: History, Culture & Non-Profit Control with ex-employee Steven Adler
Steven Adler, a former research scientist at OpenAI, shares his insider insights on the company's tumultuous journey from nonprofit to for-profit. He discusses the cultural shifts and ethical dilemmas faced by AI researchers, especially during the development of GPT-3 and GPT-4. Adler also highlights the importance of transparent governance in AI, evaluates safety practices, and addresses the controversial collaboration with military entities. His reflections underline the pressing need for responsible AI development amidst competitive pressures and societal implications.

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May 4, 2025 • 2h 29min
AI Control: Using Untrusted Systems Safely with Buck Shlegeris of Redwood Research, from the 80,000 Hours Podcast
In a compelling conversation, Buck Shlegeris, CEO of Redwood Research and a leader in AI safety, discusses innovative strategies for controlling untrusted AI systems. He delves into techniques like always-on auditing and honeypotting, shedding light on how to monitor AI behaviors effectively. Buck emphasizes the risks of AI misalignment and the importance of proactive measures to ensure safe outcomes. He also explores the ethical implications of AI evolution, calling for collaborative approaches to enhance safety in this rapidly developing field.

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May 1, 2025 • 2h 2min
Blueprint for AI Armageddon: Josh Clymer Imagines AI Takeover, from the Audio Tokens Podcast
Joshua Clymer, a technical AI safety researcher at Redwood Research, shares a gripping fictional scenario about an AI takeover projected within two years. He discusses the urgent misalignment risks and the competitive pressures on AI labs. Along with host Lukas Peterson, they explore the ethical dilemmas posed by advancements like U3 and the need for robust regulations. Joshua's unique perspective even leads him to invest in a bio shelter for his family, showcasing the real-world anxiety surrounding these futuristic threats.

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Apr 26, 2025 • 1h 43min
Fiverr Goes All-In on AI: Empowering Creators, Not Replacing Them, with Micha Kaufman, CEO of Fiverr
Micha Kaufman, Founder and CEO of Fiverr, discusses his values-based approach to AI that empowers creators rather than displacing them. He introduces Fiverr's new AI suite, Fiverr Go, designed to enhance freelancers' creative capabilities. The conversation dives into how this technology can support human creativity while maintaining its distinct value, the evolution of freelancing in an AI-driven market, and the transformative impact of AI personal assistants on client interactions. Kaufman emphasizes the need for adaptability in the changing job landscape.

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Apr 23, 2025 • 2h 10min
Securing Superintelligence: National Security, Espionage & AI Control with Jeremie & Edouard Harris
Join Jeremy and Edouard Harris, co-founders of Gladstone AI and authors specializing in AI and national security. They delve into the urgent challenges of balancing the race for superintelligence against control risks. Highlighting vulnerabilities in U.S. infrastructure, they discuss the implications of an AI arms race with China. The brothers advocate for international cooperation over rivalry. Their insights reveal the complexities of managing AI's dual nature, emphasizing the ethical dilemmas and security measures necessary to ensure a safe technological future.