

The No Film School Podcast
No Film School
A podcast about how to build a career in filmmaking. No Film School shares the latest opportunities and trends for anyone working in film and TV. We break news on cameras, lighting, and apps. We interview leaders in screenwriting, directing, cinematography, editing, and producing. And we answer your questions! We are dedicated to sharing knowledge with filmmakers around the globe, “no film school” required.
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Jul 4, 2024 • 1h 11min
The Burden of Unpaid Work, Ramping Up Your Reps & Roth IRAs; Plus ‘A Family Affair’ Screenwriter Carrie Solomon
At what point should you get paid for the work you do to develop a project? What types of conversations should you be having with your agent? How can you show up confidently for potential projects, even though you’re feeling utterly afraid?In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and guest Carrie Solomon discuss:
Smart ways to save money as a filmmaker
How to build rapport with your reps and make sure you’re on the same page
The truth about doing development work and how you should approach being paid
An important question you must ask yourself when writing a spec
When Carrie realized she needed to scale up the story for A Family Affair
Getting in the habit of reading scripts
Why she quit working as a PA on Ingrid Goes West
Being thrown into the world of studio writing
How doing improv helped Carrie have less fear when going into meetings
Embracing failure and welcoming fear
The most intimidating part about writing A Family Affair
The difference between likeability and lovability in characters
Memorable Quotes
“It's hard to get money out of Hollywood right now. You’re squeezing water from a stone.” [19:59]
“The only way to make money in this business is if someone loves your idea so much.” [22:35]
“I try to read as many scripts as I possibly can. I’m usually not picking up a book, I’m picking up a screenplay.” [29:00]
“From a very young age, I was a storyteller. And by that, I mean as a child, I was a big fat liar.” [37:54]
“Everyone has their own terrible little journey with finally getting their fingers on the keyboard.” [50:50]
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Jul 2, 2024 • 42min
Why This Doc Editor Let's Himself Get Lost
While documentary editor Lucas Harger loves “being lost in a sea of footage” when he first starts a project, his approach to editing is intentional and specific. From his initial meeting with the director to establishing the context of characters and theme, this editor knows what it takes to transform raw footage into powerful stories. In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with editor Lucas Harger to discuss:
Falling in love with the community aspect of making a movie
Becoming the editor of the documentary, Lions of Mesopotamia
The conversation he had with the director at the start of the collaboration
The sacredness of the first watch of the footage
Why he doesn’t throw anything away during the early stages of editing
Customizing your space so you can easily get into the zone
The importance of establishing context - it helps you decide what footage is necessary
Difficulties in sourcing and sorting through archival footage
Getting the film on the timeline as quickly as possible
How working for free has brought him amazing opportunities
Three factors Lucas considers when taking on a new project
Memorable Quotes
“Documentary is the editor’s medium. It’s like the editor’s playground.” [6:03]
“You have to interview the collaborator you’re going to work with just as much as they’re interviewing you. ” [9:22]
“I don’t believe in good shots or bad shots, just appropriate shots. You just pick the most appropriate thing in the moment.” [12:58]
“What are the stories that bring to light the most about the time period, the culture, and this person?” [20:44]
“Consume as much as you can, even if you don’t think it’s directly related to the craft or industry.” [34:07]
MentionedLions of MesopotamiaFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 27, 2024 • 52min
Don’t Sacrifice Creative: ‘A House is Not A Disco’ DP & Editor Share Tools on Staying Lean, Nimble
You don’t have to have high-end tech or complicated processes to create your film. You just need an open mind and a passion for the story you are telling, as we’ll learn from this week’s episode from the DP and editor of A House Is Not a Disco.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with cinematographer Eric Schleicher and editor Blake Pruitt to discuss:
How Eric and Blake landed on this film
Why the sound designer had to create sound effects
Having everything outlined and organized in a Google Doc
What gave the film a kaleidoscopic structure
Asking for consent to film party scenes
Keeping the operating team small during production
Matchframing - what it is and why it’s so helpful in the edit
Challenges during the shoot and the edit
The beauty of not having a production company fund the film
Making the space to do projects you’re interested in
Memorable Quotes
“I’m not one to kill myself for a job. Even a dream project, I don’t want to work more than 8 hours a day on this.” [10:24]
“It's more PBS doc than this high-end streamer doc that is out there right now.” [16:22]
“You got an idea? Grab your camera. Shoot what you need.” [39:27]
“Be open to unexpected things happening, but also have boundaries.” [45:47]
MentionedA House Is Not a DiscoFire Island Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 27, 2024 • 38min
‘A Quiet Place: Day One’ Writer-Director Michael Sarnoski's Path from 'Pig' to Studio Franchise
Michael Sarnoski is the director and co-writer of A Quiet Place: Day One, the franchise's third film. The film follows Sam who is trapped in New York City during the early stages of an alien invasion. Michael shares that he was attracted to this film because of the opportunity to explore interesting character dynamics.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with Michael Sarnoski to discuss:
Bringing aspects of his feature film Pig to his current film, A Quiet Place: Day One
How the aliens in the film are a vehicle for exploring character dynamics
Michael’s journey as a filmmaker
Giving yourself permission to write something you care about
Figuring out what a “silent New York” would sound like
Balancing VFX and practical effects
Creating a respectful yet constructive environment on set
Michael’s approach to hiring and knowing who to collaborate with
Memorable Quotes
“You just have to find one person that gets your idea and wants to see it happen.” [8:01]
“You have to be constantly focused and moving things forward and not waiting for someone else to step in.” [11:13]
“Write a really inexpensive feature you can shoot with the resources you have, and go do it. You’ll learn a ton.” [32:39]
MentionedPIGA Quiet Place: Day One Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 22, 2024 • 1h 16min
'Ren Faire' Dir Lance Oppenheim Plus Hard Comedy and Hard Questions
What’s the best approach to sharing your resume on LinkedIn? Is it okay to negotiate when you rent gear? What’s the difference between hard comedy and hard “R” comedy? How do you shoot a documentary and make it feel like a movie? In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and guests Lance Oppenheim and Nate Hurtsellers discuss:
A platform that prevents fraud and theft of production equipment
The American Film Market - it’s moving to Vegas!
Having multiple resumes and tailoring them to specific roles
Negotiating gear rentals
Hard comedy - what it is and what it’s not
Lance Oppenheimer’s documentary film, Ren Faire
Letting the film organically find its language and style
The benefits of shooting with a small crew
Feeling all over the place and wanting more control while shooting
Nate’s secret to successfully operating handheld cameras
Why you don’t need a sophisticated setup to be a DP
Memorable Quotes
“Rental companies never want their stuff sitting on a shelf. If it can be working, they want it working.” [19:15]
“Everything in the film industry is a negotiation. Always.” [21:50]
“The design reveals itself the longer you spend working on it.” [56:46
“Sometimes what perfect is, changes based on what’s in front of us.” [64:11]
MentionedESTA fraud & theft prevention“New Film Market” American Film Convention Hopes To Take Root This FallThis American Life Podcast - Good Guys episodeRen Faire Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 21, 2024 • 43min
An Editing Round Table Of Emmy Contenders Part II
Becoming an editor is more than just learning software and improving your skills. You must listen intently, speak up for yourself, and seek guidance and feedback from others with more experience.In today’s episode, No Film School’s Grant Vance speaks with editors J. Kathleen Gibson, Joaquin Elizondo, Shelly Westerman, and Payton Koch to discuss:
Their journeys to become editors
All the things Shelly taught Payton as his mentor
Starting as an assistant editor and learning from others
Putting yourself out there and communicating what your goals are
Paying it forward - helping their assistant editors grow and succeed
Working across different genres
Having over 50 hours of footage for a 30-minute show
Responding positively to notes you disagree with
Why you need to be a good listener if you want to be an editor
Memorable Quotes
“Part of what interests me is to be challenged and stretched and do something I haven’t done before.” [18:05]
“A lot of editing is feeling. You have to be empathetic and go with your gut.” [20:38]
“If people know what you want to do and what you’re interested in, most likely they are going to give you an opportunity.” [36:18]
“Be completely tuned into the world. Listen. Pay attention. Bring all that to your projects.” [38:42]
MentionedThe Morning ShowGriselda Only Murders in the BuildingFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 20, 2024 • 31min
Jeff Nichols Discusses the Inspiration, Writing, and Directing of 'The Bikeriders'
Jeff Nichols is the director of the film, The Bikeriders, a story about a 1960s motorcycle club that turns into a menacing gang, known as the Vandals. The film is adapted from Danny Lyon’s book of the same title. The complex nature of The Bikeriders, leaves us asking, “Why are we attracted to dangerous things?”In today’s episode, No Film School’s Jason Hellerman speaks with director Jeff Nichols to discuss:
Feeling inspired by a photographic documentary book
Deliberately changing the film’s structure from the first hour to the second hour
The importance of character point of view
Why the film style felt appropriate for this story
Casting and location scouting - two of the most important parts of the process
Using photos from the book for location inspiration
Feeling drawn to dangerous characters
Why he doesn’t block scenes or rehearse with actors
Using a documentary-style editing structure
When Jeff realized this story needed to be a movie
Memorable Quotes
“It was by design that the first hour would have one feeling, and the second hour would have another.” [7:58]
“These actors are so damn good. I just get to sit back and watch. Sometimes I forget to yell cut.” [16:14]
“I was trying to build the script on the page to feel like it had been collected and put together like a documentary.” [22:45]
MentionedThe Bikeriders (trailer)The Bikeriders (book) Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 20, 2024 • 53min
An Editing Round Table Of Emmy Contenders!
Maura Corey is the picture editor of Gen V, a satire about young adult superheroes. Walter Schulz is the visual effects supervisor behind The Curse, a story about a cursed couple who are part of a reality show. These two creatives share how they got their start, their work process, and what it takes to build a successful career in film.In today’s episode, No Film School’s Grant Vance speaks with editor Maura Corey and visual effects supervisor Walter Schulz to discuss:
Their relationships with other departments
The benefits of working in both production and post-production
Maintaining the tone and feel of The Boys while editing Gen V
Why there is a comeback for practical effects in TV
The unique, collaborative nature of working on The Curse
A.I. - will it affect editing and VFX
The reason visual effects have improved in television in the past 10 years
The importance of advocating for yourself and telling others your goals
The unique paths they took and opportunities that came their way
Memorable Quotes
“You’d be surprised how much VFX are actually in comedy.” [13:54]
“Visual language is such a strong medium to illustrate an emotional journey.” [21:31]
“Don’t hate any tools….that one tool you hate is going to save you in those two months you are out of work.” [25:41]
“The only way you’re going to be able to move ahead in this business is to tell people what you want to do.” [40:07]
“Don’t be afraid to walk out of your comfort zone. That will change your life.” [47:25]
MentionedGen VThe Curse Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 13, 2024 • 60min
Your Freelance Healthcare Questions Answered
Just how important are character introductions in film? What are the most important steps you need to take before sending out your script? How do you pay for healthcare as a freelance filmmaker? In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine and Jason Hellerman discuss:
Why writers need to improve their character introductions
Examples of movie intros we love
Copyright - should you copyright your script before sending it out
Why you should join a writer’s group
Asking for honest, constructive feedback from your network
The importance of log lines
Why most production companies don’t offer health insurance
Exploring public healthcare exchanges
Memorable Quotes
“There’s a million reasons to put a screenplay down after a couple of pages. The reason to keep reading is because you’re interested in the characters.” [10:00]
“Your first twenty pages are about developing a relationship with the reader and having them trust you and be confident in you. Typos break that ability to have that trust.” [24:14]
“The most important people to you in your career are people one step down and one step up the ladder from you.” [40:10]
“The problem with union benefits is the volume of work you have to do to keep them.” [48:57]
MentionedWhat is a Logline? Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 6, 2024 • 43min
Choosing Your Next Project & Immediate Next Steps
There's no better feeling than completing a project you’ve been working on for, what feels like, forever. On one hand, you’re relieved but you're also anxious to figure out what to work on next. How do you decide what your new project will be, and what is the most efficient strategy for getting started on it?In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman discuss:
The first questions you need to ask yourself before deciding on your next project
Doing market research and getting feedback on your initial ideas
Narrowing down on your ideas
Writing with specific actors and directors in mind
Developing relationships and keeping track of your interactions
The draft-writing process
Setting parameters for the people who will read your first drafts
Being selective about who will receive your final spec
Why you should give yourself time off
Memorable Quotes
“I do not start writing anything unless I can picture the actors in it.” [10:09]
“I do not start writing until I’m one-hundred percent sure how that idea ends. What’s the ending of the story?” [13:26]
“The best part about this cycle is you’re always cultivating, and you’re always getting better at it.” [33:57]
“I need to live life to come up with ideas. I need to do things to come up with ideas.” [35:32]
MentionedOscar-Winning Screenwriter Eric Roth Takes You on a Tour of His Writing Process Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices