

The No Film School Podcast
No Film School
A podcast about how to build a career in filmmaking. No Film School shares the latest opportunities and trends for anyone working in film and TV. We break news on cameras, lighting, and apps. We interview leaders in screenwriting, directing, cinematography, editing, and producing. And we answer your questions! We are dedicated to sharing knowledge with filmmakers around the globe, “no film school” required.
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Aug 20, 2024 • 1h 15min
Rebuilding the Film Industry, Closure, Plus a $400 Doc Short
TV is oversaturated. California is too expensive to film in. Many audiences are underserved. It’s time we indie filmmakers rebuild the film industry on our terms. Plus, we bid farewell to a beloved host of the No Film School podcast. In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and guest Janek Ambros discuss:
Not waiting on labs or studios to give you the green light
The influx of people looking for jobs in the market
Needing better streamer options for indie projects
The benefits of serving an underserved audience
Why the distribution process is vital
Advice for people who think they are finished with their project
The important reasons Charles insists on working in Davinci Resolve
Why Charles is leaving the No Film School podcast
The origin of the short documentary film, Ukrainians in Exile
Why Janek wanted to keep the movie so simple and so short
Advice for documentary filmmakers
Memorable Quotes:
“We’re going to have this feral resurgence of indie filmmaking because we are so sick of the industry to figure it out.” [5:54]
“Breakdowns lead to breakthroughs. We need to break through because the way it’s been working is not sustainable.” [6:35]
“It should be a lot easier to shoot in California, it shouldn’t be so expensive.” [13:32]
“Because of the way distribution works, distribution never feels finished.” [28:00]
“People think I know all these celebrities, but I don’t. I just annoy every single publicist in Hollywood.” [1:03:07]
“If you want to make a short doc, you can make a short doc. There’s no excuse for that.” [1:07:50]
Links:Ukrainians in Exile: A Documentary Short Film Follow Assembly Line Entertainment on IG Follow Janek on XBlueCheck Ukraine Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 15, 2024 • 42min
'DÌDI (弟弟)’ Director Sean Wang & Editor Arielle Zakowski on Kid Talent, Short Turnarounds & Angst on the Big Screen
If you were a teen in the early 2000s, the film Dìdi will likely evoke a strong sense of nostalgia. Dìdi, which is said to embrace “the cringier side of adolescence,” premiered at the 2024 Sundance Film Festival where it won the Audience Award for the best U.S. Dramatic film. In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with Sean Wang and Arielle Zakowski to discuss:
The invaluable experience gained working in advertising
Why the advertising world is a great start for new filmmakers
Feeling emotion through the computer screens in the film
Our silly AOL Instant Messenger user names from the early 2000s
Empowering the young actors and giving them the space to play
How to help actors stop overthinking when they are stuck in their heads
Getting the director’s cut finished in time to submit to Sundance
Being pregnant during post-production
The power of making small, very personal films
Memorable Quotes
“We always wanted to make sure you could feel the person behind the computer.” [15:49]
“Any idea is a good idea. If you try it and it doesn’t work, then we can recalibrate.” [18:47]
“Maintaining any sense of objectivity in the edit is kind of the hardest part.” [31:31]
“The thing you think is just the thing you do for fun that no one will care about, that’s the thing that will help you find your voice.” [33:43]
“Make the things that feel very small and pure and have those build on top of each other.” [35:45]
Mentioned:Follow Arielle on IG Follow Sean on IG Dìdi trailerFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 8, 2024 • 56min
Want To Make Worldbuilding Movies? ‘Borderlands’ EP Emmy Yu on Development, Production & Why VFX Should Be Onboard ASAP
Producers are involved in every step of creating a film, from development to post-production. The role of a producer is not only to keep everyone on the same page but also to remove barriers so the cast and crew can focus on the creative elements needed to create a fantastic film.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with Executive Producer Emmy Yu to discuss:
The top two most popular No Film School articles this week
The reasons why having a pitch deck is important
Acting in movies as a child and falling in love with film
Adapting the video game, Borderlands, to the big screen
Working with actors like Cate Blanchett, Kevin Hart, and Jack Black
The challenge of adapting video game characters
Facilitating communication and openness with different departments
Why you need to bring VFX into the process as early as possible
Post-production and building the tone of the film in the edit
The importance of having mentors in your life
Memorable Quotes
“At every single phase of getting a movie made, you have to find different ways to convey what it's going to feel like.” [9:46]
“A producer’s job is to clear the runway for the director so that the director can just focus on making the movie.” [36:05]
“Visual effects needs to be brought on as early as possible.” [42:08]
“There are a lot of ways forward. Don’t get discouraged because what you’re doing might not look like what somebody else is doing.” [49:13]
MentionedBorderlands trailer Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 6, 2024 • 36min
Making a Movie Is Scary—This Is How We Manage Our Fear
On this bonus episode of the No Film School podcast, host GG Hawkins is joined by members of the team behind the movie she wrote and directed, 'I Really Love My Husband'. Cinematographer Ryan Thomas and Actors Madison Lanesey and Travis Quinton Young share their own fears and how they overcame them during the filmmaking process. The conversation highlights the importance of embracing fear, taking risks, and having unwavering confidence in the outcome.Takeaways- Making movies can be scary, but it's important to embrace fear and take risks.- Having unwavering confidence in the outcome can help overcome fear and challenges.- Collaboration and support from a team of trusted individuals can make the filmmaking process less daunting.- Embracing fear and using it as a tool can lead to personal and artistic growth.- The satisfaction of seeing the final product and knowing that the hard work paid off is worth the challenges faced during the filmmaking process.Video: https://vimeo.com/979992225?share=copySupport the film: gghawkins.com/backourfilmThis episode is Directed & Produced by Max Gibson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 3, 2024 • 45min
‘War Game’ Directors Jesse Moss & Tony Gerber on Fearless Collaboration, Plus Comic-Con & Experimental Films
“Remain curious. Approach projects not with a notion of what kind of product you want to create in the market, but rather, what do you want to learn.” This advice, which comes from the directors of the documentary War Game, embodies the theme of today’s episode. - It’s okay to create unconventional films about unconventional topics.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and directors Jesse Moss & Tony Gerber discuss:
Robert Downey Jr’s surprising return to Marvel
The culture of Comic-Con and past experiences at the convention
Experimental films - what are they
Why we love experimental filmmaking
Why Jesse and Tony love working together as co-directors
The challenges of filming a real-life political simulation
Having 50 people connected to microphones at once
Letting go of control and ego
Building trust and capturing human moments with documentary subjects
Surrounding yourself with people who have different opinions
Memorable Quotes
“How can I challenge the conventions of normal cinema to stick out?” [15:54]
“This was a hell of a film to collaborate on. This was a real challenging undertaking.” [23:39]
“You want your camera operators to be listening to dialogue because you want them to function like storytellers.” [29:06]
“You don’t just want to work with people who make you feel safe and comfortable. You want people who are going to push you a little bit.” [37:43]
Mentioned:What are the Best Experimental Films of All Time?War Game trailerWar Game website Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 25, 2024 • 1h
Breaking Down the Black List
The Blacklist started as an annual list of the best, unproduced screenplays in Hollywood. Nowadays, it’s an awesome online platform that nurtures and empowers screenwriters from around the world, by helping them showcase their scripts and grow within the industry.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and host of the Blacklisted podcast, Chris Hill, discuss:
How the Blacklist got its start and what it looks like today
The difference between the website and the annual list of scripts
Getting multiple reports on a script
Recurring themes of screenplays on the Blacklist
What life is like after being on the list
The importance of using action descriptions
Approaching your script with a journalistic curiosity
How to avoid writing a purely factual story
The best way to approach writing a biopic
Why you need to write a detailed outline
Memorable Quotes
“One of the best things about the Blacklist is that it intentionally gives you heat.” [15:44]
“You're always pushing that rock up the hill, no matter what level you’re at. The rock isn’t lighter. Now it’s a bigger rock.” [21:05]
“Hollywood isn’t just an IP delivering service. It’s where dreamers go to dream big ideas.” [48:30]
MentionedThe Blacklist websiteListen to Blacklisted on AppleListen to Blacklisted on Spotify Follow Chris on XFollow Blacklisted Podcast on X Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 18, 2024 • 1h 7min
Navigate All Facets of Comedy With 'The Office' & 'Abbott Elementary' Director Ken Whittingham
Ken Whittingham has directed shows we all know and love such as, The Office, 30 Rock, and Parks and Recreation. More recently, he has worked on the TV comedy, Abbot Elementary, which uses a mockumentary production style, similar to The Office. While Ken is an award-winning director with over 25 years of experience, he believes in the power of teamwork and respecting everyone on set regardless of their title.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with director Ken Whittingham and BraveMaker podcast host Priscilla Lam to discuss:
Selling a script as a new PA
How Ken became a television director
Learning how to clearly communicate with actors
The balance between giving actors autonomy and giving them direction
An awkward moment with Alec Baldwin on the set of 30 Rock
Tone meetings - what are they and why are they important
Treating the documentarian in The Office as if it were a separate character
The power of subtlety in comedy
How Ken and Priscilla met
Transitioning from TV into film
Our favorite shows, movies, and hobbies
Memorable Quotes
“I still get nervous. Every Sunday night before I shoot Monday morning, I’m nervous.” [10:37]
“You can’t get into this business, thinking about money. You have to go with your passion, and really believe in yourself.” [42:56]
“Everybody’s job is important and nobody’s job is more important than the other. It’s a team effort.” [48:01]
MentionedAbbott Elementary S2E21The Office S1E3Ken's InstagramPriscilla's InstagramBraveMaker on Instagram BraveMaker Film FestivalFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 15, 2024 • 39min
How ‘I Saw the TV Glow’ Editor Balances Creative, Tech & Negotiates Higher Pay
As a beginning editor, working on low-budget projects is normal when you’re first starting. Once you get some experience under your belt, there comes a time when you have to start advocating for yourself so that you can get paid more. The “something is better than nothing mindset” can only serve you for so long, before you start to burn out. In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and editor Sofi Marshall discuss:
Falling in love with editing in high school
What the indie film scene is like in New York
How to editors can make themselves more visible and less excluded
What it’s like to watch a Sundance premiere of a film you worked on
Landing the editing role on I Saw the TV Glow
What it was like to work on two different films at the same time
Sofi’s favorite tools in Adobe Premiere
Cutting the entire film remotely
Taking on too many low-budget projects at the start of her career
Knowing when to ask for more pay
Memorable Quotes
“All of my films have come to me via a direct recommendation, just from people I have met.” [5:05]
“There’s nothing like watching your movie during that first premiere. It’s such a dopamine rush and terrifying at the same time. It’s great.” [8:19]
“No matter how much pre-planning you do, it’s always going to change in the edit.” [23:02]
MentionedI Saw The TV GlowFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 11, 2024 • 32min
Paramount — Skydance Merger; Scope, Scale & Dragon Battles
Paramount and Skydance are merging. How does that impact the people already involved in those companies and what does it mean for the rest of us? How did House of Dragon pull off the epic Battle of Rook’s Rest, featuring multiple, fighting dragons? Let’s find out together!In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman discuss:
What we know about the Paramount - Skydance merger
Whether or not the merger will result in job losses
An epic battle scene on season 2 of House of The Dragon
What we love about this HBO series
Creating flexibility in your shooting process
The importance of scope and scale
Including establishing shots into your script
The types of oners we find frustrating
Memorable Quotes
“There will always be job losses with mergers because there will always be redundancies.” [7:50]
“Whether you’re in TV or you’re in film, we do need to invest in brutality to make it feel real.” [15:38]
“If you’re just letting your camera roll, no thank you. That is not scale. That is not scope. That is not impressive.” [23:12]
MentionedMastering Scope and Scale in Screenwriting Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 8, 2024 • 25min
How To Write a Movie To Shoot (In Three Months)
On this special episode of the No Film School podcast, host GG Hawkins shares her experience of writing her first feature, 'I Really Love My Husband' on a small budget and arguably, an even smaller timeline. She discusses the constraints she faced, the collaborative writing process, and the challenges of receiving feedback. GG emphasizes the importance of pushing through the bad drafts to reach the good ones and highlights the value of constraints in spurring creativity. She also emphasizes the need for support from others and setting deadlines.Takeaways
Constraints can spur creativity and lead to unique and specific storytelling.
Writing doesn't have to be a lonely process; seek feedback and collaborate with others.
Push through the bad drafts to reach the good ones; don't be discouraged by initial shortcomings.
Setting deadlines and receiving feedback from trusted sources can help refine and improve the script.
Video: https://vimeo.com/979992225?share=copySupport the film: gghawkins.com/backourfilmThis episode is Directed & Produced by Max Gibson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices