The No Film School Podcast
No Film School
A podcast about how to build a career in filmmaking. No Film School shares the latest opportunities and trends for anyone working in film and TV. We break news on cameras, lighting, and apps. We interview leaders in screenwriting, directing, cinematography, editing, and producing. And we answer your questions! We are dedicated to sharing knowledge with filmmakers around the globe, “no film school” required.
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Mar 15, 2024 • 55min
Pete Ohs Rethinks How We Make Movies
Discover how Pete Ohs redefines filmmaking by emphasizing creativity over equipment. Explore the unique approach to developing characters and creating scores. Learn about the excitement of limited budget filmmaking and the magic of uncertainty. Hear about their festival experiences and the importance of collaboration in the industry.
Mar 14, 2024 • 52min
How Your First Ten Pages — Or AI? — Will Determine if Someone Finishes Your Script
Getting your script into the hands of the right people is extremely difficult. What is a desperate screenwriter to do if they seek feedback on their screenplay? Are script coverage services helpful or just another cog profiting from an emerging filmmaker’s hope? In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss:
Recalling memories from March 2020 when the world “shut down”
Why we are surprised that Nikon bought RED
The acquisition of BorrowLenses
The importance of the first 10 pages of your script
Why the opening scene of The Godfather is so powerful
The Gauntlet - a controversial script coverage service
What infuriates us about AI script coverage
Why AI cannot evaluate creative screenwriting
Hollywood, the hope machine
Memorable Quotes
“In those first ten pages you know, what is this movie and who is it for.” [14:55]
“The idea of AI evaluating your script is fucking horseshit.” [26:08]
“We keep engaging in this fantasy that AI can think. AI cannot fucking think.” [30:52]
“That’s what Hollywood is. It’s a hope machine. You always have perpetual hope that tomorrow you can become famous.” [40:46]
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Mar 8, 2024 • 36min
‘Damsel’ Director Juan Carlos Fresnadillo Sets Fantasy on Fire (And It Looks Awesome)
If you want to succeed with fantasy and make it a transformative experience, you have to create real characters. To convey realness, you have to go beyond the “good versus evil” narrative of traditional fantasy movies. You have to create duality.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with Director Juan Carlos Fresnadillo, to discuss:
Why Juan Carlos became a filmmaker
The complicated family dynamics in his film, Damsel
Why he loves portraying duality in the characters
Why you always have to have a plan, even if you don’t stick to it
How he prepares for production
A happy accident that became one of his favorite shots
The inspiration behind the violent fire in the movie
Creating a proper fire simulation
Why you have to chase your own voice
Memorable Quotes
“I thought ‘oh my god I have to make movies like this.’ ” [5:46]
“I’m much more willing to show the grey zone, because I think that takes you into the reality.” [11:35]
“You have to give space to happy accidents.” [16:26]
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Mar 7, 2024 • 59min
How We Manage Our Careers — From Annual Goals to Daily Tasks
Topics discussed in the podcast include showing films to actors, setting yearly goals, making money between projects, sharing goals, successful screenwriter productivity, effective general meetings, asking about development funds, post-production bond with actors, navigating career goals in film industry, maximizing impact in meetings, collaborative decision-making, financial aspects in projects, and narrative lessons from Survivor.
Mar 1, 2024 • 47min
How Broadcast Dramas Work, With ‘Quantum Leap’ Writer Shakina
What does it look like to advocate for yourself as a creator? Well, it starts with understanding your value and knowing where you can serve. Then, you have to develop the courage to articulate and offer your expertise. This is exactly what Shakina did to land the role of executive story editor on the NBC series, Quantum Leap.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with multihyphenate creator, Shakina, to discuss:
How she got her start as a storyteller
Why framing is just as important in theater as it is on TV
How her experience as a trans person helps her write for Quantum Leap
What it’s like to work with new cast members every week
Why the coming out scene in “The Family Treasure” episode was so powerful
Telling ground-breaking nuanced stories that are unprecedented
Making queer stories more comfortable and less “threatening” for audiences
The fast-paced yet collaborative nature of writers' rooms
Advocating for herself in various roles on set
Creating space for characters we don’t normally see on television
Memorable Quotes
“Just write something that will never get made.” [8:52]
“You have to be in charge of how you see yourself and lean into the skills that bring you the most joy.” [35:47]
“Space without resources and support is a trap.” [40:00]
“Do something every day that pushes you toward your dream.” [41:02]
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Feb 29, 2024 • 49min
Dissecting Emerging AI and Why Your Human Voice Is So Important
With the rise of AI, will Hollywood begin to neuter your voice? While AI isn’t creating anything original, the immediate convenience of this tool is already impacting our industry. Artificial intelligence is being applied to creative arts, so filmmakers need to understand how it can affect their careers. In today’s episode, No Film School’s Jason Hellerman speaks with acquisition executive and script consultant, Evan Littman, to discuss:
Why we should be concerned about text-to-video AI tools like Sora
Why large studios have a better chance of going against generative AI models
AI-generated screenplays and copyright laws
Using AI to read and give feedback on scripts
Examples of how unreliable AI can be
Developing your voice as a screenwriter
What newer writers need to understand about breaking into the industry
Why 8/10 on a script isn’t good enough
Memorable Quotes
“This is something a lot of people thought was coming, but it arrived faster than we anticipated.” [2:49]
“A.I. is not making anything. It’s just recombining and generating an output based on what it already has.” [7:38]
“A.I. at this point in time, can’t really generate anything good. What it makes is regurgitated slop.” [11:11]
“You just really need one ‘yes’ to get a movie made. It doesn’t matter if you have a hundred ‘I like its.’ You really need one ‘I love it.’” [42:41]
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Feb 23, 2024 • 1h 2min
Career-Sustaining Advice for a Consolidating Film Industry
If you are at square one in your filmmaking journey, you are probably confused about where to start. You’re not sure how you are going to pay the bills, let alone finance your projects. You’re also worried about the state of the industry and wondering if you have a shot at success. Our guest, Ana Liza Muravina, believes that if you’re serious about filmmaking, “it’s your responsibility to understand what kind of business you’re getting into.”In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with filmmaker Ana Liza Muravina to discuss:
How the industry has transformed
The decline of tv and film consumption
What a period of consolidation means for filmmakers
The power of attaching certain elements to your project
Ensuring the project you are pitching is financially viable
Foreign Sales - what are they and how are they impacted by streaming services
Becoming clear on the project you are making
Finding patrons and supporters in your local area
The importance of casting valuable actors
Figuring out what you want out of your career
Having a collaboration agreement and what it should look like
Memorable Quotes
“Streaming tv is going to look a lot like how cable used to look. It’s going to be expensive.” [9:24]
“In our industry and in our society, success is tied to money.” [11:41]
Money is not all concentrated in Los Angeles and New York. Money is wherever there are people who have made money.” [26:45]
“Please make the thing that’s most interesting to you otherwise it’s not going to be interesting and it’s not going to sell.” [28:35]
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Feb 22, 2024 • 56min
How To Ensure People Can Watch Your Movie (Hopefully) Forever
There’s a very important lesson can we learn from films like 28 Days Later, which is not available in physical format or on streamer. It’s hard to believe a film starring award-winning talent like Cillian Murphy, who is nominated for an Oscar this year, is not commercially available to audiences. Let’s find out how you can make sure your movie doesn’t succumb to the same fate. In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss:
Staying conscious about the ways our contracts are written
Thinking about where projects will be in 100 years
Automating residual systems - is it a good idea?
Feeling disturbed and disappointed by the lack of physical media available
Pros and cons of text-to-video tools like Sora AI
How AI can be a useful tool if it is subordinate to creatives
Jaywalking in front of self-driving vehicles
What is causing the current short story phenomenon
Why you should be reading screenplays every week
Memorable Quotes
Thinking about your digital legacy is a really interesting thing to try to negotiate and navigate.” [9:15]
“Don’t get too attached to the movie you made because it might just completely go away.” [12:30]
“Your scripts should be entertaining. Your goal is to create a great read.” [43:48]
“I’m against building statues of anybody that’s alive. It’s expensive to take down a statue.” [48:24]
Mentioned:OpenAI’s Insanely Powerful Text-to-Video Model ‘Sora’ is Here What are the Ramifications of the New 'Sora' OpenAI App on Hollywood?Here’s How Sora’s AI Video Could Actually be Good for FilmmakersWhy Are Short Stories Hot In Hollywood Right Now? Rest of World articleFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 16, 2024 • 49min
How First-Time Feature Director Katie Burrell Subverts Ski Comedy... Hilariously
Weak Layers is Katie Burrell’s feature film, which she not only directed but co-wrote and acted in. The film invites us to truly understand ski culture, unlike many unrealistic ski movies of the past. With this film, Katie proves that a novice director can stay true to their vision while also leading with transparency, humility, and positivity along the way.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, speaks with Katie Burrell to discuss:
Feeling excited about theatrical releases in ski towns
Creating such a niche film
What Katie can’t stand about other ski movies
The unique, diverse cast and what they brought to the film
Directing in extreme climates
Being honest about her lack of experience
How she kept up morale on set
Why they didn’t do any playback
How they created an organic party vibe on set
Memorable Quotes
“I was militant about making sure that it felt like it was a Hollywood movie, something that could reach into the mainstream.” [6:34]
“No pro skier would ever put their goggles on top of the helmet.” [10:49]
“In all the auditions of the core cast, there was a uniqueness that came through in each of them.” [14:03]
“I was having the best time, all of the time.” [31:26]
“To be somebody’s scene partner and also their director, is a really tricky relationship dynamic.” [37:09]
“Don’t be afraid to admit that you have no idea what you’re doing, because people will rally around you and want to support that kind of attitude.” [43:46]
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Feb 15, 2024 • 42min
Are Super Bowl Ads Creative Anymore? Plus, a New Film Camera!
If you’re anything like us, we only watch the Super Bowl for the awesome commercials, but sadly this year’s ads leave much to be desired. While we are disappointed by the Super Bowl commercials, we are happily surprised by two major announcements in the filmmaking space. One announcement comes from The Academy Awards, and the other announcement comes from Kodak.In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss:
The lack of visuals and creativity in this year’s commercials
Trusting your gut feeling
The Academy Awards - they are introducing a new category
Why people don’t appreciate what a casting director does
Benefits to starting as a casting director
Kodak’s new camera we have all been waiting for - for literally 8 years
How this new camera is great for modern production sets
Why per per-screen averages are more important than box office numbers
Memorable Quotes
“Celebrity gags. It’s not special anymore when literally everyone is doing it.” [7:11]
“There was a moment in the internet where virality could occur organically, by people sharing things because of the joy of it.” [8:59]
“Casting is truly an art and a science.” [15:55]
“The only thing indie filmmakers care about is our per-screen ratio.” [29:14]
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