The No Film School Podcast

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Apr 19, 2024 • 1h 10min

Editing Tyler Perry's Life Story with Filmmaker Erick Sasso

Erick Sasso is a multi-hyphenate creative and the editor of the film, Maxine's Baby: The Tyler Perry Story, which documents the life of Tyler Perry. Erick compares the making of documentaries to the making of a meal. You need to use the right ingredients…not too much, not too little. And everyone at the table has to enjoy it.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with filmmaker Erick Sasso to discuss:  Making music videos with his friends in high school Realizing you can reverse engineer in the edit The importance of charging adequately for your services How he landed the editing job on Maxine’s Baby What it looks like to fall in love with the subject Navigating topics such as abuse and childhood trauma  What it was like seeing emotional reactions from the audience Important lessons he has learned about being a filmmaker Setting up projects in Adobe Premiere Overcoming tech fears and looking forward to new updates Why editors make the best directors Focusing on development and learning from others Memorable Quotes “Usually you are not charging enough. Usually, you are charging way less than industry standard.” [12:38] “When you edit a lot, it’s really creepy when you meet people.” [32:59] “You may think you are a hard worker until you meet someone who is doing 10x your output.” [35:09] “You need to become a pro at uncertainty.” [60:24] Mentioned:Maxine’s Baby: The Tyler Perry StoryErick's websiteConnect with Erick on IGFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 19, 2024 • 1h 1min

Why The 'Blood for Dust' Director & Producer Don't Wait for Permission To Make Movies

Rod Blackhurst and Noah Lang are the dynamic duo behind the film Blood for Dust, starring Kit Harington, Scooty McNairy, and Josh Lucas. These filmmakers share why leading with honesty, openness, and enthusiasm is the key to building strong relationships and creating successful films. You don’t have to be cutthroat in this industry in order to achieve your filmmaking dreams.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with director Rod Blackhurst and producer Noah Lang to discuss:  How Rod and Noah began working together Why you should lead with honesty and enthusiasm Making movies with the same people over and over again Understanding what you have agency over in your career How Scoot McNairy and Kit Harington came onto the project How meeting David Gordon Green in 2012 eventually led to the making of Blood for Dust The power of self-awareness and being a kind filmmaker The vibe on set - having fun amid stress What it looks like to make an honest living in filmmaking  Memorable Quotes “You can meet someone on the internet and become homies.” [3:27] “You don’t need everyone to want to be on your team. You just need some of the right people.” [38:55] “Being a good person and doing good work matters. It does result in good things happening.” [43:02] “We’re rowing upstream, going against the grain. We’re out there believing in what we have. Wrestling with our choices, behaviors, actions, our own struggles, and darkness.” [50:44] Mentioned:Blood for Dust Here AloneConnect with Rod on IGConnect with Noah on IGWitchcraft (Rod & Noah’s production company)Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 12, 2024 • 40min

These No Film School Listeners Won Slamdance and Then Some

Nina Ognjanovic is the director of the film, Where the Road Leads, which won Best Narrative Feature at Slamdance 2023. Nina and her passionate team prove you can successfully market a foreign, indie film on a limited budget and still win at major festivals in the US and worldwide.In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with Nina Ognjanovic, David Jovanovic, and Jana Bjelica to discuss:  Their experience traveling from Serbia to the United States for Slamdance Marketing the film using scrappy, creative methods Their approach to casting and shooting What it was like to act on multiple projects at the same time How they handled shooting in an isolated location without cell service Building trust with the cast, crew, and locals The Slamdance experience and the reaction of the audience The first shot of the film - finding a unique solution to a challenge Setting the production schedule based on the weather conditions  The magic they experienced during production Why you need to fail and experiment before doing a feature  Memorable Quotes “It’s hard, but when you love your job, everything is possible” [9:23] “I was freaking out day after day…my hair started falling off.” [21:35] “Manage your expectations. Don’t write something you know you can’t deliver.” [30:58] Mentioned:Where the Road Leads on TikTok Where the Road Leads on Instagram Pointless Films Production HouseFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 11, 2024 • 48min

Survive Until 2025

Were you hoping work would pick back up after last year’s strikes? Unfortunately, work is epically slow, and 2024 is a rough year for the film industry. But just because Hollywood is slowing down, doesn’t mean you have to.In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss: The industry post-strike How higher interest rates are affecting streamers The unpredictability of a career in film Accepting the things out of your control Living with family or friends to lower expenses The unattainable “American Dream”  Staying creative during this slow year How famine years can have their benefits An example of finding career success outside of Hollywood Memorable Quotes “Work is epically slow and it’s terrifying.” [3:44] “If you don’t have three months of cash cushion in your bank account, do not feel bad.” [19:40] “I don’t think we need to build our identity on outside markers of financial success.” [28:21] “If you can’t be investing money, you can be investing your energy and creativity into your future career.” [32:52] Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 5, 2024 • 47min

How to Safely Light Chris Hemsworth on Fire

Sam Hargrave is an award winning stuntman and stunt coordinator, second unit director for films like Suicide Squad and Avengers:Endgame, and director of the film Extraction. His second feature film, Extraction 2, is available on Netflix, June 16. In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and director Sam Hargrave discuss: The transition from stunt performing to directing What a “stunt vis” is and why it's important for efficiency and safety on set How directing a film is like being a switchboard operator Why filming Extraction 2 was more challenging than the first film Wanting to give the audience more the second time around The specifics to the casting process Operating the camera on the more dangerous scenes  Landing a helicopter onto a moving train Making others feel invested in your project Sam’s approach to emailing those he works with Memorable Quotes “I was young and flexible and really wanted to be Jackie Chan.” [4:06] “There’s so many questions that come the way of the director. It feels like you are a switchboard operator on methamphetamines.” [10:07] “Communication with other departments is one of the most important things in filmmaking.” [11:50] “Each movie…is its own unique puzzle. It’s a labyrinth that you and the crew have to work your way through.” [14:34] “When you can do something practically, always do it.” [23:12] Resources:Extraction 2 trailerFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 4, 2024 • 1h 27min

How Heat Shapes Your Career & the Biz Feat Oscar-Nominated Producer Chris Moore & Team

Heat is important to your film career. It means that you and your work are gaining attention and recognition, which can lead to more opportunities in the future. So how can you generate and navigate heat at an industry level? What contributes to “positive heat” or “negative heat?” In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman speak with Chris Moore, Katie Marpe, and Dennis De Nobile to discuss:  How Chris, Katie, and Dennis entered the industry and how they met Why you need to promote yourself and your work The One Moore Hollywood Podcast and the topics they discuss The difference between “in the business heat” and “out of the business heat” Seeing big corporations gravitating toward original ideas How audiences decide whether they will watch a movie or not Getting feedback on your ideas Why your idea may be better suited for a different medium Good Will Hunting - Generating authentic heat with the script When you realize a script isn’t working  How your attitude and behavior affect the type of heat you generate Sensing tension of the cast and crew while watching a movie Memorable Quotes “It’s like surfing. The best thing to do in your career is to read what’s happening around you and take the wave where it’s taking you.” [4:22] “You have to be able to sell yourself and your ideas. You can’t just operate in a vacuum and expect somebody to discover you.” [16:12 ] “Go out and make something you think you would pay for.” [52:12] “What’s the commercial version of your weirdness?” [1:01:28] “Heat will come back to you. It will tell you if your shit is good. If you can’t generate any heat, that means your shit is not good.” [1:07:17] Mentioned:Follow Chris on IGFollow Dennis on IG Follow Katie on IG One Moore Hollywood Podcast on IGFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 29, 2024 • 1h 28min

Is Achieving the American Dream Possible Through Cinematography?

How do you build a career as a cinematographer when the odds are against you? How do you create opportunities for yourself, when dealing with rejection, financial barriers, and prejudice? Is it possible to pursue your dream without conforming and becoming someone you are not? In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with cinematographers Bruce Cole and Alejandro Mejía to discuss:  Being drawn to visual art from a young age The people who encouraged and inspired their creative dreams Feeling motivated by rejection  Why New York is a great place to start a film career The importance of having mentors in your career journey Stigmas they experience in the industry as minorities Why we need to stop glamorizing film careers How to maintain balance during long, tedious projects Cultivating yourself and embracing who you are Having another creative form of expression outside of film Memorable Quotes “I want to do this. I want to travel the world and know the world with a camera.” [14:25] “New York is probably the best starter city for young filmmakers from all walks of life.” [40:09] “This is not a speed race. This is a marathon. We are long-distance runners.” [71:28] “We’re losing that artistry because we are so focused on being someone else.” [79:10] Mentioned:From Landing the Job to Boosting Morale: Sundance DP Roundtable Dives into Filters & MoreMore about BruceMore about AlejandroFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 28, 2024 • 42min

Troubleshooting Tech for Dummies & Bombing an Interview

The small decisions that you make at the beginning of your project, can cause headaches later on. If you want to avoid tech issues in post, then you need to set up your project correctly from the start. Speaking of doing things right from the start, there is a right way and a wrong way to approach your interviews. How should you prepare for your next interview to make sure it doesn’t bomb?In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss: Bombing interviews in Hollywood What not to do during an interview Going to interviews as a slightly fancier version of yourself  How to respond when someone doesn’t read your script Feeling guilty for not reading other people’s scripts Career errors we have learned from The helpless feeling you get when troubleshooting tech problems  Media management issues in post-production Sorting through the timeline and looking for weird shots Why it’s worth bringing on subject matter experts early Memorable Quotes “Over-researching is never a mistake when you are given an opportunity.” [2:09] “Everyone I know has made huge, catastrophic career mistakes and we’ve all kept going.” [9:00] “Setting up things right from the start makes your life so much easier.” [30:29] “God bless people in post-production. The most patient humans in the world.” [35:48] Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 22, 2024 • 1h 21min

Let’s Talk About Sex (On Screen) With a Team of Intimacy Coordinators

Exploring the role of intimacy coordinators in creating safe spaces for actors during intimate scenes and advocating for consent and boundaries. Discussions on choreographing intimate scenes, prioritizing actors' comfort, and reframing storytelling through respectful portrayals of intimacy. Emphasis on the balance between artistic freedom and safety protocols, fostering a culture of specificity and safety in the film industry, and the importance of maintaining a consent-driven workspace.
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Mar 21, 2024 • 45min

To Rent or Buy Gear? Plus, Movies That Made Us Want To Make Movies

You are still a legitimate filmmaker even if you don’t own any gear. Most filmmakers actually don’t own the gear they use and for good reason. And speaking of gear, what movies geared you toward the path of filmmaking? In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss: Buying gear or renting gear - which is better? When you should justify buying gear Realizing how much work it takes to create a movie The things that made us want to work in movies Having fun with genre Looking for books about the making of movies  The idea of being inserted into the story How to influence others who don’t enjoy movies Unpredictable twists that bail out the “bad guy” The balance between fantasy and reality in a film Memorable Quotes “Most professionals rent because gear has wear and tear and you outgrow it.” [5:10] “In the digital era, shit ages fast!” [11:13] “I cannot imagine a human with two lungs, two ears, two eyes, and a heart not loving Tokyo Drift.” [27:01] “I already knew I wanted to be a filmmaker before I read my first IMDb trivia page.” [18:32] Mentioned:Share Grid rental platform Waking Ned DevineClueShirley TempleThe Little Rascals The Secret GardenThe Royal TenenbaumsBeing John MalkovichThe Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift ProblemistaFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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