
Engineering Unblocked
Keeping software engineers in flow and unblocked is one of the key responsibilities of software development leaders. In each episode of the Engineering Unblocked podcast, Rebecca Murphey interviews leaders who have navigated challenges of scale, complexity, and growth. You’ll hear from people with lived experience across the software development ecosystem, from CTOs and VPEs to directors and line managers to product managers, program managers, tech leads, and more.
Latest episodes

Apr 30, 2024 • 33min
The evolution of data engineering in the age of AI with Colleen Tartow from VAST Data
Colleen Tartow, Field CTO and Head of Strategy at VAST Data, shares her experience from years in data engineering leadership roles.
In this episode, Rebecca and Colleen talk about how “data” has evolved over the years, how AI is turning everything we know about data upside down, and how a PhD in Astrophysics got her started on this path.
Find the transcript at: https://www.unblocked.fm/episodes/colleen-tartow-vast/
Timestamps
(0:00) Introductions
(0:44) Colleen’s background
(3:01) About VAST’s approach
(7:18) Unique challenges of data engineering
(10:56) Setting reasonable expectations
(13:34) The importance of process
(16:29) The future of data engineering
(21:00) What Colleen misses about engineering
(22:39) How to set goals for a data organization
(25:58) Colleen’s perspective on people in business
(29:58) Colleen’s unusual path to data
Follow Colleen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colleen-tartow-phd/
Follow Rebecca on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmurphey/
Links and mentions
• VAST Data: https://www.vastdata.com/

Apr 8, 2024 • 38min
Building scaleups without hero culture with Andrea Corey from Homebase
Andrea Corey is a VP of Engineering for platform engineering at Homebase.
In today’s episode, Rebecca and Andrea talk about Andrea’s experience in working at scaleups, the lessons she’s learned, the pitfalls she’s trained herself to avoid, and some of the biggest problems leaders need to solve as their organization grows.
Find the transcript at: https://www.unblocked.fm/episodes/andrea-corey-homebase/
Timestamps
(0:00) Introductions
(0:46) Andrea’s background
(4:37) Unlocking potential among teams
(7:02) About Homebase’s team strategy
(11:26) Tips to make ideas a reality
(15:20) How Andrea manages multiple teams
(18:11) Countering hero culture
(21:44) Incident handling
(25:19) Setting goals around incidents
(27:23) Avoiding past mistakes
(33:45) When to federate vs. centralize
(37:01) Who Andrea wants to be
Follow Andrea on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreacorey/
Follow Rebecca on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmurphey/
Links and mentions
• Homebase: https://joinhomebase.com/
• FreshBooks: https://www.freshbooks.com/
• Eloqua: https://www.oracle.com/cx/marketing/automation/

Mar 20, 2024 • 46min
Change: It’s a long game with Liz Hustedt from ActBlue
Liz Hustedt is a Senior Engineering Manager at ActBlue, an American political action committee and fundraising platform established serving left-leaning and Democratic nonprofits and politicians.
In today’s episode, Rebecca and Liz talk about how Liz’s early experience as an ICU nurse shaped her leadership skills and style, and about managing change in a way that’s empathetic to where the organization is at the moment.
Find the transcript at: https://www.unblocked.fm/episodes/liz-hustedt-actblue
Timestamps
(00:00) Introductions
(00:50) Liz’s background
(04:00) About ActBlue and Liz’s experience there
(08:55) Understanding team health
(12:35) Building trust
(15:15) Roadmap planning
(20:07) How Liz and her team are evaluated
(21:21) About outcome-driven goals
(26:26) Tips to transition towards outcome-driven goals
(28:59) Skills needed in management
(34:34) Managing through change
(40:50) Milestones and who Liz wants to be
Follow Liz on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizhustedt/
Follow Rebecca on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmurphey/
Links and mentions
• ActBlue: https://secure.actblue.com/

Mar 6, 2024 • 40min
Crafting a career at the intersection of tech and people with Scott Bonneau from Karat
Scott Bonneau is the EVP of Product and Operations at Karat, the end-to-end solution for technical hiring. Before Karat, Scott has worked in various engineering and HR roles at Google and Indeed.
In today’s episode, Rebecca and Scott discuss Scott’s career at the intersection of technology and people, how leaders can win the trust of a team that they’ve inherited, and how the tech industry has changed over the past 30 years.
Find the transcript at: https://www.unblocked.fm/episodes/scott-bonneau-karat
Timestamps
(00:00) Introductions
(02:18) Scott’s journey to his current role
(07:10) About Karat
(11:05) The role of EVP Product & Operations at Karat
(15:43) How to keep everyone close to the ultimate company goal
(22:15) Navigating low-trust environments
(27:15) What has changed in tech industry during Scott’s career
(30:40) How AI is going to change in the tech industry — especially for junior engineers
(35:35) What is changing with regards to the hire-ability of developers
(38:01) Where you can find Scott play music
Follow Scott on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bonneau/
Follow Rebecca on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmurphey/
Links and mentions
• Karat: https://karat.com/
• Indeed: https://www.indeed.com/
• The Five Dysfunctions of a Team: https://www.tablegroup.com/product/dysfunctions/

Dec 8, 2023 • 37min
Introducing metrics to an engineering organization with Lena Reinhard
Lena Reinhard has been a software engineer, a cofounder, and a vice president of engineering, including leadership stints at Travis CI and CircleCI.
These days, she’s an engineering leadership coach and consultant. On today’s episode, Rebecca and Lena talk about those experiences, and how they’ve shaped Lena’s perspective of engineering management and managing with metrics.
Find the transcript at: https://www.unblocked.fm/episodes/lena-reinhard-introducing-metrics-to-an-engineering-organization
Timestamps
(00:00) Introductions
(00:49) How Lena accidentally got into tech from a finance background
(02:33) Lena’s current role as an engineering leadership coach
(03:00) What drew Lena into developer tools
(05:10) Maintaining situational awareness as a leader of a large engineering organization
(06:15) The two purposes of engineering metrics
(12:20) How Lena helps engineering organizations drive visibility
(17:19) Leading indicators to a visibility problem
(21:23) Introducing engineering metrics in a low-trust environment
(27:25) How (not) to roll out a metrics program
(28:25) The failure mode in running employee engagement surveys
(30:37) Lena’s biggest learnings in rolling out metrics programs
(36:16) How to get in touch with Lena
Where to find Lena
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lenareinhard/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/lrnrd
Where to find Rebecca
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmurphey/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/rmurphey
Links and mentions
• Lena's website: https://www.lenareinhard.com/
• What engineering metrics should I use? A guide for engineering managers, directors, and leaders: https://www.lenareinhard.com/articles/what-engineering-metrics-should-i-use-a-guide-for-engineering-managers-directors-and-vps
• How to roll out and use engineering metrics successfully: https://www.lenareinhard.com/articles/how-to-introduce-engineering-metrics-successfully

Nov 6, 2023 • 44min
Like a Fitbit for engineering teams with Grant Jenks from LinkedIn
Grant Jenks is a Senior Staff Software Engineer at LinkedIn.
In this episode of Engineering Unblocked, Rebecca and Grant discuss how LinkedIn approaches the challenges of keeping its software engineers (and others) happy and productive, and how the Engineering Insights organization informs its work and the work of teams across LinkedIn.
Find the transcript at: https://www.unblocked.fm/episodes/grant-jenks-linkedin-like-a-fitbit-for-engineering-teams
Timestamps
(00:00) Introductions
(01:00) Grant’s current role and his career journey
(03:51) The origins of the productivity organization at LinkedIn
(05:22) From building “tools” to maintaining critical development infrastructure
(06:40) Incorporating commodity tools
(08:06) Choosing which problems to solve
(09:21) How the team’s metrics inform work across LinkedIn
(12:05) Using the metrics to help teams set goals
(13:30) Choosing the right metrics for the problem
(15:32) Unique user problems at scale
(18:07) Different problems and different perceptions for different personas
(23:09) Working with productivity champions at the team level
(23:40) Defining “happiness” and soliciting feedback
(28:05) Spotting trends in the sentiment data, and choosing the right cadence
(30:26) The product is productivity, and users can do surprising things
(34:00) Making change happen at scale
(38:33) Using metrics in a productivity emergency
Where to find Grant
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grantjenks/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/Grant_Jenks
Where to find Rebecca
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmurphey/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/rmurphey
Links and mentions
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/
• GitHub Codespaces: https://github.com/features/codespaces
• Horizontal initiatives at LinkedIn: https://engineering.linkedin.com/blog/2018/03/scaling-decision-making-across-teams-within-linkedin-engineering
• Artifactory: https://jfrog.com/artifactory/

Sep 29, 2023 • 33min
Reflecting on ladders, acquisitions, and personal trajectory after 8 years at Sentry with Ben Vinegar
Ben Vinegar has spent the last 8 years at Sentry in a variety of roles, from Software Engineer to VP of Engineering.
Today, Rebecca and Ben discuss non-linear careers, engineering career ladders, acquisitions, and more.
Find the transcript at: https://www.unblocked.fm/episodes/ben-vinegar-sentry-reflecting-on-ladders-acquisitions-and-personal-trajectory
Timestamps
(00:00) Introduction
(01:26) Third-Party JavaScript and Sentry
(02:33) Ben’s journey to VP of Engineering
(03:24) Sentry’s growth
(05:08) The ladder: differentiating engineering levels
(08:45) How Ben became the Co-VP of Engineering
(12:42) A new role focused on innovation
(16:40) Building an emerging tech team
(19:26) Preserving innovation outside the innovation team
(21:37) Lessons from acquisitions
(26:11) Leading Syntax.fm
(28:34) A company within a company
(30:36) Non-linear careers
Where to find Ben
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benvinegar/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/bentlegen
Where to find Rebecca
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmurphey/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/rmurphey
Links and mentions
• Sentry: https://sentry.io/
• Third-Party JavaScript, a book by Ben Vinegar and Anton Kovalyov: https://www.manning.com/books/third-party-javascript
• Disqus: https://disqus.com/
• Shape Security (now part of F5): https://www.f5.com/cloud/products/bot-defense
• Specto (a Sentry acquisition): https://sentry.io/about/press-releases/sentry-acquires-analytics-firm-specto-to-add-continuous-profiling-to-mobile-application-monitoring/
• Syntax.fm (a recent Sentry acquisition): http://Syntax.fm

Aug 25, 2023 • 46min
Design systems and other internal platforms as products with David Demaree from Webflow
David Demaree is a Principal Product Manager at Webflow, where he helps lead the designer experience effort.
Before Webflow, David was at Stripe, where he worked on their design system Sail; and at Google, where he worked on Google Fonts and Material Design. In this episode, David and Rebecca discuss the power of platforms to accelerate engineering efforts, and the power of involving a product manager in platforms, even when all of a platform’s users are in-house.
Find the transcript at: https://www.unblocked.fm/episodes/david-demaree-webflow-design-systems-and-other-internal-platforms-as-products
Timestamps
(00:00) Introduction
(00:39) Talking about LEGOs
(02:20) David’s background
(06:32) Material Design
(11:01) Selling the investment
(14:46) Design systems at Stripe
(18:13) Categories of problems that design systems solve
(19:55) Selling the long-term, short-term story to leadership
(23:07) Speaking the same language as leadership
(26:56) Measuring and selling an internal platform
(30:55) Secondary effects of platforms
(36:04) Platforms as products
(42:45) Product for internal platforms vs. external products
Where to find David
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ddemaree/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/ddemaree
Where to find Rebecca
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmurphey/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/rmurphey
Links and mentions
• Webflow: https://webflow.com/
• Stripe: https://stripe.com/
• Google’s design system, Material Design: https://m3.material.io/
• Adobe Fonts (formerly known as Typekit): https://fonts.adobe.com/
• Microsoft’s design system, Fluent: https://fluent2.microsoft.design/
• The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software Engineering: https://www.amazon.com/Mythical-Man-Month-Software-Engineering-Anniversary/dp/0201835959

Aug 9, 2023 • 32min
Success is more than headcount with Alex Plugaru, CTO at Gorgias
Alex Plugaru is co-founder and CTO at Gorgias, a platform that helps ecommerce businesses provide top-tier customer support.
In this episode, Alex talks about the challenges of building a business in an unfamiliar realm, learning from low-risk experiments, and how headcount isn’t an indicator of success.
Find the transcript at: https://www.unblocked.fm/episodes/alex-plugaru-gorgias-success-is-more-than-headcount
Timestamps
(00:00) Introduction
(02:04) Origins of Gorgias
(03:49) Chrome extension as MVP
(06:25) Staying lean when it comes to engineering headcount
(10:01) Deciding on growth during COVID
(14:25) Mistakes made along the way
(18:10) Alex’s role today
(22:58) Skip-level meetings
(24:11) Alex’s approach to discovering business opportunities
Where to find Alex
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/313373/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanfromearth
Where to find Rebecca
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmurphey/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/rmurphey
Links and mentions
• Gorgias: https://www.gorgias.com/
• Scaling Agile at Spotify: https://blog.crisp.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/SpotifyScaling.pdf
• Team Topologies: https://www.amazon.com/Team-Topologies-Organizing-Business-Technology/dp/1942788819

Jul 13, 2023 • 51min
Scaling Engineering at Wolt with Niilo Säämänen, CTO
Niilo Säämänen, CTO of Wolt, talks about lessons learned while scaling an engineering organization in the shadow of Covid. Topics include focusing on the right areas, product management in a 3-way marketplace, principles-driven development, turning big things into reality, customer-centered approach, Wolt's culture, excellence driven by data, recruiting and hiring, growth challenges, ownership and standardization, and Niilo's journey as a CTO.