
The Emergent Strategy Podcast
The official podcast of the Emergent Strategy Ideation Institute - each episode we dive deeply into the life, practice and experimentation of a person or group who we see as living embodiments of emergent strategy. Emergent Strategy is about how we get in right relationship with change - what are the simple interactions that can shift and shape complex systems and patterns? Hosts are Sage Crump, Mia Herndon and adrienne maree brown.
Latest episodes

Sep 15, 2022 • 53min
Disrupting White Dominant Culture with ashley sparks
ashley sparks is a theater maker, facilitator, engagement strategist, and collaboration coach and consultant. ashley joins Sage this week on the Emergent Strategy Podcast to talk about bringing their artistry into activism spaces, getting buttoned up adults to soften, and the grieving that comes when parts of ourselves need to be let go or are challenged.
Transcript found here.

Sep 8, 2022 • 1h 8min
Yin Timing with Lindsay Fauntleroy
Acupuncturist or Blacupuncturist, Lindsay Fauntleroy, joins ESII host, Mia, for a conversation about possible overlap between African-based traditions and Chinese medicine. She is also the author of the new book In Our Element: Using the Five Elements as Soul Medicine to Unleash Your Personal Power, and Lindsay talks to Mia about the beauty and practice of yin timing.
Transcript found here.

Sep 1, 2022 • 56min
Filling the Gap with Caitlin Breedlove
Caitlin Breedlove is the current Deputy Executive Director at the Women's March and author of a forthcoming book about her experience with ovarian cancer. A long time organizer, Caitlin meets with ESII host, adrienne, to discuss how approaching and experiencing cancer has informed her work as an organizer and vice versa. Caitlin and adrienne also talk about writing close to the bone (hint: it involves losing lots of preamble).
Transcript found here.

Jun 30, 2022 • 51min
Radical Grievance with Malkia Devich Cyril
Grief is power and grief as a way to strength and intimacy are some of the ideas that this week's Emergent Strategy Podcast guest, Malkia Devich-Cyril, explores with host, Sage. An illuminating conversation about an honest collective embrace of grief that might also aid in our emphasis on belonging.
This is our last episode until September. ESII is going on summer break! Have a beautiful summer and there will be more of season 2 in the fall. Thank you for listening!
Transcript found here.

Jun 23, 2022 • 38min
Embodied Decolonization with Camille Barton
Artist and embodiment educator, Camille Barton, talks with ESII host, adrienne, about art, somatics, and strides to move towards a more decolonized inner (and outer) world. Camille has learned that somatics is less about relaxation and more about being able to sit with and feel more.
Transcript can be found here.

Jun 16, 2022 • 36min
Slowness, Intention, and Ease with Latham Thomas Part 2
Latham Thomas continues her conversation with ESII host, Mia. Latham is an entrepreneur, self-care sorceress and founder of Mama Glow, New York's premiere maternity lifestyle brand committed to supporting women and birthing people along the childbearing continuum. In part two of their conversation, Latham talks about Mama Glow, care work needing to be valued, the difference between a passion and a calling, and sitting with the question "does it tire me or does it inspire me"?
Transcript found here.

Jun 9, 2022 • 54min
Slowness, Ease, and Intention with Latham Thomas Part 1
"The Universe rewards courage," says Latham Thomas, founder of Mama Glow and this week's Emergent Strategy Podcast guest. In part one, of a two-part interview, Latham joins longtime friend and ESII host, Mia Herndon, to talk about working towards a rhythm that works for you, tending to the things that we want to see come to fruition, and the practice of care.
Transcript found here.

Jun 2, 2022 • 57min
Slowing Down Your Slow Down with Geoffrey Jackson Scott
Geoffrey Jackson Scott is a culture organizer, engagement strategist, creative producer and co-founder of Peoplmovr, which works with people to design strategies that move people towards liberation. Geoffrey joins ESII host, Sage, to talk about the physical, spiritual, and mental spaces his work asks of him and some of the components of what it takes to facilitate deeper change and understanding.
Transcript found here.

May 26, 2022 • 52min
Reverence for Ferment with Kasha Ho
Dear listeners, if you all did not already know how fantastic microbes are, Kasha Ho, is about to let you know. Kasha is the co-founder of the Groundwork Project and an avid and seasoned fermenter. Kasha relays to ESII host, adrienne, how the bubbling, briny, and delicious microorganisms found in foods like kimchi and sauerkraut support our gut health and are tied to a much larger life web. Make sure your mason jars and crocks are close by.
Transcript found here.

May 19, 2022 • 58min
Earth Stewarding with Cris Izaguirre
Cris Izaguirre, a trans and queer Nicaraguan immigrant of Afro-Indigenous descent, shares their journey as a farmer and educator. They dive into the queerness of plants, encouraging an appreciation for diverse identities in nature. The talk highlights the importance of decolonizing ecology and embracing traditional practices through transformative growth. Cris reflects on community, the significance of ancestral wisdom, and how farming can be a powerful act of stewardship. Their passion for connecting with the land and people shines through, inspiring listeners to consider their relationship with the natural world.