

The Digital Agency Growth Podcast
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Rated in the top 3% by ListenNotes and going strong for nearly 300 episodes since 2018, The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is dedicated to helping marketing agency owners and executives build stronger firms so they can grow, get acquired, or enjoy more peace of mind. Hosted by agency veteran and Sales Schema CEO Dan Englander, each episode features interviews with successful agency founders, industry experts, and business strategists who share insights on client acquisition, team building, offering optimization, operational efficiency, and sustainable growth models.
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Aug 16, 2023 • 39min
Seth Price on Building an Eight-Figure Legal Agency
Agencies come in many different forms, and featuring new perspectives is something we love to do here on the Digital Agency Growth Podcast. Today we’re bringing you Seth Price from Price Benowitz law firm and BluShark Digital marketing agency to offer his advice and perspective on growing your agency from the lens of the legal world. This week, episode 195 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about building an eight-figure legal agency!FREE Webinar From Our SponsorAre you leaving money on the table with your proposals? Smart Pricing Table is hosting a free webinar: "5 Secrets to Profitable Agency Proposals".Register today and learn how to:Increase your budgets with powerful upsellsMitigate scope creep and surprisesBuild proposals lightning fast ⚡Click here to register.In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Seth Price shares the importance of taking a holistic approach to marketing and actionable steps you can take right now to deal with difficult clients. An accomplished attorney and transformational thought leader, Seth Price is a founding partner and the business backbone of Price Benowitz LLP and the founder and CEO of BluShark Digital. Seth took a two-person law firm and scaled it to 40 lawyers in less than a decade. Now Seth has taken the same digital power that built the firm to create a best-in-class digital agency focused on the legal sector in BluShark Digital. Seth has been a frequent lecturer and moderator at some of the largest and most influential law conferences in the United States, speaking on the tools and strategies law firms can use to align their business development with changing consumer habits. He has spoken on topics including but not limited to, how to build a firm, ethics, best practices for firm operations, search engine optimization (SEO), and digital marketing as a whole.In this episode, Dan and Seth discuss the following:The power of domain expertise and how it might be undervalued.Milestones along the way of building the agency to 80 people.Blueshark’s operational structure and how many direct reports each manager should have to be effective.Seth’s hot take on AI and its effect on the agency space, especially if you work with local search.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/ and Smart Pricing Table at https://www.smartpricingtable.com/dagCONNECT WITH SETH PRICE:LinkedInPrice BenowitzBluShark DigitalCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales SchemaLINKS MENTIONED:15Five

Aug 9, 2023 • 35min
Jon Lenz on Building a Michelin Star Agency
What words do you think of when you hear ‘Michelin star’? Likely, it’s words like quality, mastery, and consistency. We also want to achieve these qualities in our agencies, and thinking about applying Michelin-star standards to our businesses can completely change the game. Jon Lenz at Br8kthru Consulting is doing just that and is here today to talk about what he’s learned through the process. This week, episode 194 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about building a Michelin-star agency!FREE Webinar From Our SponsorAre you leaving money on the table with your proposals? Smart Pricing Table is hosting a free webinar: "5 Secrets to Profitable Agency Proposals".Register today and learn how to:Increase your budgets with powerful upsellsMitigate scope creep and surprisesBuild proposals lightning fast ⚡Click here to register.In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Jon Lenz shares the importance of honing in on your agency’s principles and values and actionable steps you can take right now to make the most of your client check-ins. Jon Lenz is the CEO of Br8kthru Consulting, a Minneapolis-based marketing and technology firm specializing in complex customer journeys, with a diverse team of data-driven marketers, talented creatives, and seasoned strategists. In this episode, Dan and Jon discuss the following:How to stay top of mind with prospects and get people over the starting line to work with you.A cadence for client check-ins that works and doesn’t take up more time than necessary.Company values should not come from the top down, they should come from the whole company.How agencies should approach their values to be as specific as possible.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/ and Smart Pricing Table at https://www.smartpricingtable.com/dagCONNECT WITH JON LENZ:LinkedInBr8kthruCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales Schema

Aug 2, 2023 • 41min
Justin Tan on Scaling and Removing Yourself from a Productized Service Business
While we talk a lot about agencies here on the show, founders of productized service businesses share a lot of the same challenges that agency owners do. One of the largest challenges is knowing when your role as owner/founder is not the same as when you started the company and what you can do to change it and bring more value to your agency. This week, episode 193 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about scaling and removing yourself from a productized service business!FREE Webinar From Our SponsorAre you leaving money on the table with your proposals? Smart Pricing Table is hosting a free webinar: "5 Secrets to Profitable Agency Proposals".Register today and learn how to:Increase your budgets with powerful upsellsMitigate scope creep and surprisesBuild proposals lightning fast ⚡Click here to register.In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Justin Tan shares the importance of understanding your leadership style versus your type of business and actionable steps you can take right now to add value to your company. Justin Tan is the founder of Video Husky, a video editing platform and productized service. After building Video Husky to a seven-figure business, Justin hired a General Manager and stepped away from the business. He now offers consulting services and guides agency owners looking to grow their businesses.In this episode, Dan and Justin discuss the following:The difference in mind between an agency and a productized service, and how it is different for every person.Lessons Justin learned about knowing what your clients want and expect from you.The complexity of maintaining a productized structure. Justin’s experience hiring a general manager and what you can expect when looking to hire one for your agency.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/ and Smart Pricing Table at https://www.smartpricingtable.com/dagCONNECT WITH JUSTIN TAN:TwitterWebsiteCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales Schema

Jul 26, 2023 • 52min
Tom Sullivan on Agency Growth, Acquisition, and Thriving in Recession
The current financial uncertainty has been on everyone’s mind lately, especially agency owners. It looms in the back of our minds while we’re trying to keep up with the changing agency landscape and focus on growing our projects. Tom Sullivan is here today to talk about his 30 years of experience in the marketing agency space and the changes it’s seen. He also talks about getting through tough financial times, having had his company survive the 2008 recession. This week, episode 192 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about agency growth, acquisition, and thriving in a recession!Are you leaving money on the table with your proposals? Introducing Smart Pricing Table, the ultimate agency proposal software with built-in upsell features. Maximize your revenue potential today. Download our Sponsor’s free guide, the Profitable Proposal Blueprint, today. Tom Sullivan is CEO and senior partner of Princeton Partners and Princeton Partners FSG (Financial Services Group), where they help community banks and other financial, health and consumer-focused organizations to accelerate their growth and increase their mission impact. Princeton Partners creates value, ROI and higher success rates by combining the marketing, creative and digital media expertise of agency pros with client-side experts and consultants from the banking, financial services, health and consumer sectors. Tom has had the privilege of working with over 30 financial institutions and healthcare and wellness-focused organizations, creating a positive impact for people through innovative national programs. In this episode, Dan and Tom discuss the following:Tom’s experience transitioning from a ‘Mad Man’ era agency into a modern agency over the last 30 years.What it was like to run an agency through the 2008 financial crisis, and what Tom and his team learned and are employing now.Becoming a pro-social impact agency and how it affects company culture.Developing acquisition as part of your growth strategy.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/ and Smart Pricing Table at https://www.smartpricingtable.com/dagCONNECT WITH TOM SULLIVAN:LinkedInPrinceton PartnersCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales Schema

Jul 19, 2023 • 39min
David Tobin on the Agency Acquisition Market in 2023
Agency acquisition is not something all agency owners consider when starting their business. But there’s nothing more valuable than keeping acquisition in mind throughout your time with the agency, even if selling is not in your plan for a long time, if at all. Today, David Tobin of TobinLeff joins us again to discuss the trends and patterns in the agency acquisition space amidst economic uncertainty and post-Covid shifts. This week, episode 191 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about the agency acquisition market in 2023!Are you leaving money on the table with your proposals? Introducing Smart Pricing Table, the ultimate agency proposal software with built-in upsell features. Maximize your revenue potential today. Download our Sponsor’s free guide, the Profitable Proposal Blueprint, today. In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, David Tobin shares the importance of being a specialist in your market and actionable steps you can take right now to prepare your agency for acquisition in the future. Founder and Managing Partner of TobinLeff, David is passionate about crafting and implementing plans for clients to convert business value into family wealth. He strives to help clients expand their view of possibilities, develop creative and sound solutions, and get deals closed. David is a serial entrepreneur who has founded, grown, and crafted exit strategies for four companies of his own. He began his first successful venture while still a full-time university student.In this episode, Dan and David discuss the following:Trends in both buyers and sellers in 2023.What level of growth or potential buyers are looking for.How to get above 7X as a professional services firm.How the sales function of your agency affects outcomes when selling the agency.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/ and Smart Pricing Table at https://www.smartpricingtable.com/dagCONNECT WITH DAVID TOBIN:LinkedInTobinLeffCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales SchemaLINKS MENTIONED:TobinLeff White Papers

Jul 12, 2023 • 43min
Matthew Mozzocchi on Web3, the DAO Team Model, and Profitable Agency Partnerships
With all the buzz about Web3 and technological advancements, marketing and agency life is poised to change rapidly. One agency model that works well in the Web3 world is a DAO, or Decentralized Autonomous Organization. Today, Matthew Mozzocchi is here to talk about Myosin, a DAO agency, and how this model allows them to have a leg up the Web3 world. This week, episode 190 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about Web 3, the DAO team model, and profitable agency partnerships!Are you leaving money on the table with your proposals? Introducing Smart Pricing Table, the ultimate agency proposal software with built-in upsell features. Maximize your revenue potential today. Download our Sponsor’s free guide, the Profitable Proposal Blueprint, today. In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Matthew Mozzocchi shares the importance of partnering with agencies in a mutually beneficial way and actionable steps you can take right now to understand the underlying tech of Web3.Matthew Mozzocchi is the Head of Revenue Operations at Myosin, a product studio and agency leveraging the collective wisdom of our member base to inform the tools, processes and playbooks that drive user acquisition into web3. Matthew also helps agencies and Fortune 100 businesses solve their complex staffing needs with flexible talent solutions. In this episode, Dan and Matthew discuss the following:What a DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organization) is and how it works.The value of partnership models that actually benefit both parties.How Web3 and Web2 differ and how we can expect to see Web3 grow in the next few years.The importance of getting in front of different audiences when partnering.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/ and Smart Pricing Table at https://www.smartpricingtable.com/dagCONNECT WITH MATTHEW MOZZOCCHI:LinkedInMozz.coMyosin.xyzCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales Schema

Jul 5, 2023 • 43min
Taylor Pearson on Operations, Kaizen, and Why the Agency Model is Underrated
Entrepreneurship has changed drastically in the last 20 years. Even with so many different types of businesses out there, from SaaS to E-Commerce, many still keep coming back to the service-based agency as the bread-and-butter of their ventures. Taylor Pearson is here today to talk about why agencies reign supreme in his opinion, his book The End of Jobs, and how Toyota can set an excellent example for us all. This week, episode 189 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about operations, kaizen, and why the agency model is underrated!Are you leaving money on the table with your proposals? Introducing Smart Pricing Table, the ultimate agency proposal software with built-in upsell features. Maximize your revenue potential today. Download our Sponsor’s free guide, the Profitable Proposal Blueprint, today. In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Taylor Pearson shares the importance of looking to the future of entrepreneurship and actionable steps you can take right now to improve your service-based business.Taylor Pearson is the author of The End of Jobs, regarded as one of ‘The 7 Books Every Entrepreneur Should Read’ but the Entrepreneur Times. Taylor’s writing has been featured in dozens of media outlets including NBC, Inc, Coindesk, and The Financial Times. Taylor also works with small business startup founders and executives as a consultant, coach and advisor for nearly a decade to ensure their businesses work better – for them, their teammates, their customers, and their communities.In this episode, Dan and Taylor discuss the following:Entrepreneurship and how it’s changed since the early 2000s.The benefits of agencies compared to SaaS and E-commerce models.Toyota’s concept of Kaizen and how we can apply that to our businesses.Challenges in service businesses, especially B2B service businesses. The three things needed for a great service business. One of the most undervalued things about agencies.Taylor’s latest book recommendations.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/ and Smart Pricing Table at https://www.smartpricingtable.com/dagCONNECT WITH TAYLOR PEARSON:LinkedInWebsiteCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales SchemaLINKS MENTIONED:Taylor’s book, The End of JobsHow The Leopard Changed Its Spots by Brian GoodwinImages of Organization by Gareth MorganToyota Production System: Beyond Large-Scale Production by Taiichi OhnoDead in the Water: A True Story of Hijacking, Murder, and a Global Maritime Conspiracy by Matthew Campbell and Kit Chellel

Jun 28, 2023 • 48min
Joey Tackett on Selling Creative
Selling creative to a client can be more difficult than selling SaaS, lead generation, or any other service in the B2B space. It takes a deep understanding of the client’s needs, wants, and risk tolerance to deliver them a great product that they’ll be eager to utilize in their business. Today, Joey Tackett is here to talk about understanding your verticals and what it looks like to sell creative successfully. This week, episode 188 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about selling creative!Are you leaving money on the table with your proposals? Introducing Smart Pricing Table, the ultimate agency proposal software with built-in upsell features. Maximize your revenue potential today. Download our Sponsor’s free guide, the Profitable Proposal Blueprint, today. In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Joey Tackett shares the importance of knowing your client's needs and conveying that to them and actionable steps you can take right now to set up your next creative sales pitch for success.Joey Tackett is an award-winning creative director, career coach, and speaker, who helps agency leaders and consultants become highly effective, confident, and persuasive communicators and presenters. During his 23-year creative agency career, he has led creative at various size agencies, working with leading consumer and non-profit brands to enhance their brand experiences. These experiences helped him define and perfect his framework for agency presentations and client experiences, which he teaches through live trainings and courses for other agencies.In this episode, Dan and Joey discuss the following:What does it actually mean to pitch well?When your team is happy, your clients are more likely to be happy.How to structure a creative pitch call.The best preliminary steps to take before your next big pitch.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/ and Smart Pricing Table at https://www.smartpricingtable.com/dagCONNECT WITH JOEY TACKETT:https://www.joeytackett.com/agencygrowthLinkedInInstagramCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales Schema

Jun 21, 2023 • 49min
Alyson Griffin on 25 Years of Marketing Innovation at State Farm, Intel, and HP
Marketing, as we all know, is a fast-paced world that is changing all the time. And if the tech industry has taught us anything, it's that innovation in fast-paced environments is essential to keeping a company afloat. Marketing innovations that think outside the box can set an agency up for success. Today, Alyson Griffin is here to talk about all that and more. This week, episode 187 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about Alyson Griffin’s 25 years of marketing innovation at State Farm, Intel, and HP!Are you leaving money on the table with your proposals? Introducing Smart Pricing Table, the ultimate agency proposal software with built-in upsell features. Maximize your revenue potential today. Download our Sponsor’s free guide, the Profitable Proposal Blueprint, today. In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Alyson Griffin shares the importance of understanding the agency’s perspective when you’re on the client side of the equation and actionable steps you can take right now to stand out as an agency to large brands looking for new talent to work with. Alyson Griffin has over 25 years of experience leading Marketing and Global Brand & Thought leadership teams for top technology brands, HP and Intel. During her tenure, she was credited for curating “first-of-their-kind” immersive experiences that traversed technology with art, influencers, gaming, and music. Now, as the Head of Marketing at State Farm, Griffin has been entrusted with the critical charter of revolutionizing the 100-year-old brand through the lens of future-forward marketing initiatives, such as designing the brand’s inaugural metaverse footprint. In this episode, Dan and Alyson discuss the following:How Alyson got started in the agency world and transitioned out.Agencies make a great “training ground” for those newly out of school and in junior roles.The importance of creating a user experience and getting your brand out in an interactive way.The origin of “Jake from State Farm” and its excellence as a marketing tool.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/ and Smart Pricing Table at https://www.smartpricingtable.com/dagCONNECT WITH ALYSON GRIFFIN:LinkedInTwitterCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales Schema

Jun 14, 2023 • 43min
Joe Ardeeser on How to Build Agency Proposals Lightning-Fast and Let Prospects Upsell Themselves
Proposals can be a big reason your sales funnel slows down. Especially right now, as we’re seeing recession tendencies, the trend is that leads are still coming in, but closing deals takes a LOT longer. So what can you do to speed up the process and sign more clients? Today, Jore Ardeeser is here to talk about his passion for proposals and how you can create them more quickly and easily than ever before. This week, episode 186 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about how to build agency proposals lightning-fast and let prospects upsell themselves!Are you leaving money on the table with your proposals? Introducing Smart Pricing Table, the ultimate agency proposal software with built-in upsell features. Maximize your revenue potential today. Download our Sponsor’s free guide, the Profitable Proposal Blueprint, today. In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Joe Ardeeser shares the importance of knowing when your prospects open and reviewing your proposals and actionable steps you can take right now to upsell your clients on larger packages quickly and easily!Joe Ardeeser is a former digital agency owner of 12 years who has worked with notable brands such as T-mobile, Bluetooth, and Scantron. His newest venture is Smart Pricing Table: interactive proposal software for agencies and professional service providers.In this episode, Dan and Joe discuss the following:Why you should think about proposals like a brochure.The power of not making assumptions about your client’s needs.How to slice and dice a current offer so the base items are more affordable, but you still make your upselling items appealing.Tactics for managing scope creep in your contracts.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to follow, rate and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about The Digitial Agency Growth Podcast at https://www.salesschema.com/podcast/CONNECT WITH JOE ARDEESER:LinkedInSmart Pricing Table websiteFree GuideCONNECT WITH DAN ENGLANDER:LinkedInSales Schema


