
In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer
Conversations with the Artists, Authors, Activists, and Change-Makers Who Are Shaping Our World Today.
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Sep 15, 2023 • 1h 8min
Martha Anne Toll
Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with Martha Anne Toll, Author of Three Muses._____LINKShttps://www.marthaannetoll.com/BOOKThree Muses - Celebrating its one-year birthday!_____Martha Anne Toll's debut novel, THREE MUSES, was shortlisted for the Gotham Book Prize and won the Petrichor Prize for Finely Crafted Fiction. THREE MUSES has received glowing tributes since it came out in September 2022. She writes fiction, essays, and book reviews, and reads anything that’s not nailed down. Toll brings a long career in social justice to her work covering authors of color and women writers as a critic and author interviewer at NPR Books, the Washington Post, Pointe Magazine, The Millions, and elsewhere. She also publishes short fiction and essays in a wide variety of outlets. Toll is a member of the Board of Directors of the PEN/Faulkner Foundation.Toll’s second novel, DUET FOR ONE, will be out in early 2025._____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

Sep 12, 2023 • 1h 11min
Melanie D.G. Kaplan
Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with freelance journalist Melanie D.G. Kaplan exploring her life and work covering travel, science, and animals._____LINKShttps://melaniedgkaplan.com_____Melanie D.G. Kaplan is a long-time freelance journalist who covers travel, science and animals. She has written more than 100 travel stories for The Washington Post and has also contributed to The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, U.S. News & World Report, USA Today, People and National Parks. She is a 2021–22 MIT Knight Science Journalism Project Fellow and 2022 Vermont Law School Media Fellow.As a third-generation Washingtonian, Melanie loves biking and paddling around the nation’s capital, but she also really digs a good road trip. She began driving cross-country in 2007, with her beagle Darwin. She and her beagle Hammy—who spent the first four years of his life in a research lab—have made that coast-to-coast trip several times, visiting almost all of the lower 48. When they're not on the road, they live in an 11-foot-wide house in Washington, D.C. I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

Sep 8, 2023 • 1h 19min
Patrick J. Deneen
Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with Patrick J. Deneen, exploring his work and the themes of his book, Regime Change: Toward a Postliberal Future._____LINKShttps://politicalscience.nd.edu/people/patrick-j-deneen/https://www.patrickjdeneen.comBOOKRegime Change: Toward a Postliberal Future_____Patrick J. Deneen is Professor of Political Science and holds the David A. Potenziani Memorial Chair of Constitutional Studies at the University of Notre Dame. Prior to joining the faculty of Notre Dame in 2012, he taught at Princeton University (1997-2005) and Georgetown University (2005-2012), where he held the Markos and Eleni Tsakapoulos-Kounalakis Chair in Hellenic Studies. From 2005-2007 he served as principle Speechwriter and Special Assistant to the Director of the U.S. Information Agency, Joseph Duffey. Deneen's intellectual interests and publications are ranging, including ancient political thought, American political thought, liberalism, conservatism, religion and politics and literature and politics. He has written four books and edited three others. His books include The Odyssey of Political Theory, Democratic Faith, Conserving America?, and most recently, Why Liberalism Failed, which appeared in January, 2018 with Yale University Press (paperback 2019). Why Liberalism Failed has now been translated into twenty languages, including German, French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Japanese, and Korean. He teaches across his areas of interest, and offers regular courses with titleI have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

Aug 29, 2023 • 1h 2min
Jonathan Fisher
Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with Jonathan Fisher, Writer and Director of In A Whole New Way._____LINKShttps://www.inawholenewway.com_____Born in Manhattan and raised in the Bronx and Queens, filmmaker and editor JONATHAN FISHER administered the Developing Lives photography program at the New York City Housing Authority, managing its extension into award-winning video. Trained in transportation science, he had made his mark at the city’s transit agency by producing products likewise award-winning that delighted millions of passengers. Jonathan also handled technology communications within Madison Avenue’s Ogilvy & Mather, sharing best practices with 10,000 advertising practitioners in 104 countries. Meanwhile, he has produced highly regarded web, video and collateral for Agent Orange relief. After leaving the housing authority in 2014, Jonathan began consulting to the United Nations in technology communications before moving on to Memorial Sloan Kettering as the pandemic hit NYC in March 2020.I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

Aug 25, 2023 • 1h 11min
Caroline J. Sumlin
Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with author Caroline J. Sumlin, exploring the themes of her book, We’ll All Be Free, and her work helping others break free from toxic, oppressive systems that have destroyed our collective humanity._____LINKShttps://www.carolinejsumlin.comBOOKWe’ll All Be Freehttps://www.amazon.com/Well-All-Be-Free-Supremacy/dp/1540902897/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IAMR37CYRDE3&keywords=We%E2%80%99ll+All+Be+Free&qid=1692385954&sprefix=we+ll+all+be+free%2Caps%2C202&sr=8-1_____My name is Caroline.I’m on a mission to help you break free from toxic, oppressive systems that have destroyed our collective humanity.You deserve a life of true freedom.Freedom from the weight of a world that exists to steal that freedom from you. Freedom to fully love well and walk boldly in all you are called to be. Freedom to live a full life of doing good, redemptive work in this world.That is why I have made it my mission to help you take your first steps toward this freedom by writing articles and creating resources that provoke tough but necessary conversations that dig deep into the depths of your soul and ignite a fire inside of you to create a life full of radical love for yourself, and the people and world around you.Because walking in the fullness of our humanity, without apology, without shame, and with only the utmost love for ourselves is our birthright._____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

Aug 18, 2023 • 1h 28min
Bonus Episode: The Undertaker’s Daughter with Katie Callahan
THIS IS A SPECIAL BONUS EPISODE FROM THE LOVE IN COMMON PODCASTThis week on “Love in Common” we are joined by singer, songwriter, and mom Katie Callahan who just released the album EXTRAORDINARY.During the conversation we learn about what to do when your creative well runs dry, how the body inspired Katie to look at songwriting a new way, and listen to some clips of her gorgeous new album. Then make sure to check out our bonus episode, “Turtles All the Way Down” where Frank, Ernie, and Erin chat after their interview with Katie. If today’s show resonated with you please pass it on to a friend, colleague or someone you care about. Want to reach out and share your story with us? Leave us a 60 second voice memo at loveincommonpodcast@gmail.com for a chance to be featured on the show or use the hashtag #loveincommon on Instagram @loveincommonpod Thanks for listening!I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

Aug 15, 2023 • 1h 10min
Melanie Springer Mock
Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with Professor and Author Melanie Springer Mock, exploring the themes of her book, Finding Our Way Forward: When the Children We Love Become Adults._____LINKShttps://www.melaniespringermock.comBOOKFinding Our Way Forward: When the Children We Love Become Adults_____Melanie Springer Mock is professor of English at George Fox University, an evangelical Friends institution in Newberg, Oregon, where she primarily teaches first-year writing, memoir, and journalism courses. She is author or coauthor of six books, including Worthy: Finding Yourself in a World Expecting Someone Else (Herald Press, 2018). Her essays and reviews have appeared in Ms. Magazine, The Nation, Christian Feminism Today, Chronicle of Higher Education, Runner’s World, and Inside Higher Education, among other places, and she is a regular reviewer for Anabaptist World, Red Letter Christians, and Christians for Social Action.She and her husband live in Dundee, Oregon, and have two young adult sons. She is a stepmom to two adults, and “Nani” to two grandsons. In her free time, Melanie enjoys running, swimming, biking, knitting, and watching reality television._____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

Aug 11, 2023 • 36min
Bradley Onishi
In this Bonus Episode of In Conversation…, Frank catches up with Brad Onishi, getting a feel for where we're at in the midst of Donald Trump's numerous indictments and how his run for the presidency may boil down to him merely trying to stay out of prison.Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with Author Bradley Onishi, exploring the themes of his book, Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism–And What Comes Next._____LINKShttps://www.bradonishi.comPODCASTStraight White American Jesus PodcastBOOKPreparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism–And What Comes Next_____Brad Onishi is a social commentator, scholar, writer, teacher, coach, and co-host of the Straight White American Jesus (SWAJ) podcast. In everything he does, Brad seeks to make the strange familiar and the familiar strange by providing insight into life’s most fundamental questions. He often speaks about topics related to the radical conservatism and extremist religions that shape our world, some of it right in our own neighborhoods. His show, SWAJ, ranks in the top 50 of Politics shows on Apple’s podcast charts – ahead of programs from NPR, the NYT, and other national outlets. His book, Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism – And What Comes Next is available now._____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

Aug 1, 2023 • 1h 12min
Jessica Pierce
Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with Bioethicist and Writer, Jessica Pierce._____LINKSwww.jessicapierce.netAll Dogs Go to Heaven_____BOOKSRun, Spot, Run_____"As a bioethicist, my research and writing focus broadly on ethical issues that arise in the biological and biomedical sciences. Much of my early work was centered on interconnections between health, health care, and ecosystems. More recently, I’ve concentrated my attention on human-animal relationships, particularly the obligations that arise in caring for and living well with companion animals. My books and articles explore, among other things, hospice and palliative medicine for aging and ill animals, the promise and peril of animal welfare science, and how to give our companion animals the best possible care. Follow my blog, All Dogs Go to Heaven, on Psychology Today."I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast

Jul 18, 2023 • 1h 7min
Patrick Smithwick
Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with Award-Winning Author, Devoted Teacher, and Legacy Equestrian, Patrick Smithwick, exploring the themes of his new book, War’s Over, Come Home, and the realities faced by those who love those who have served._____LINKShttps://www.patricksmithwick.com/https://www.facebook.com/PatrickSmithwickAuthor/https://www.instagram.com/patricksmithwick_author/https://twitter.com/SmithwickAuthor_____Starting at the age of twelve, Smithwick began working with his father and mentor, the legendary steeplechase jockey, A.P. Smithwick. Patrick worked his way through college by exercising Thoroughbreds at the major East Coast racetrack and by competing in steeplechase races at Belmont Park, Monmouth Park and Saratoga, as well as at hunt meets, such as The Maryland Hunt Cup and the Grand National. He received a Bachelor of Arts from Johns Hopkins University in 1973 and a Master of Arts in Creative Writing from Hollins College in 1975. In 1988, he received a Master of Liberal Arts from Johns Hopkins University, and in 2000 his degree in Education for Ministry. A newspaper writer for several years, Patrick began teaching English, philosophy, photography, and journalism at both the high school and collegiate levels. In addition to his trilogy of memoirs–Racing My Father, Flying Change, and Racing Time–he has written The Art of Healing: Union Memorial Hospital and Gilman Voices, 1897-1997. Patrick lives with his wife Ansley, formerly the Associate Head of Oldfields School, on the Monkton horse farm where he was raised. In his latest book, War’s Over Come HomI have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast