

Web3 Talks: Stories & Tips from the Builders
Mac Budkowski
Web3 Talks is a web3 podcast where founders of top crypto projects share the backstage perspective of their work and the lessons they learned along the way.
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Hosted by Mac Budkowski.
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Hosted by Mac Budkowski.
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Jan 24, 2023 • 59min
#38: Colin Armstrong, Founder @ Paragraph | How they combined web2 & web3 features to create a Substack alternative that’s already used by over 5k creators
Colin Armstrong has been in crypto since 2011 and has spent years working at Coinbase and Google. He built Paragraph to create a more neutral and web3-friendly alternative to Substack. The project has already amassed 5k+ creators and 100k+ subscribers, and Colin shares how they made it happen.
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TIMESTAMP:
0:38 How to make sure you get info about the new web3 talks episodes
1:27 Why Paragraph is a great example of web2.5 Substack
2:22 How Colin’s experience at mining Bitcoin in 2011, building decentralized Kickstarter in 2014, working at Coinbase with the founder of Litecoin, spending 5 years at Google, and being dissatisfied with Substack led him to build Paragraph
13:37 What were the most interesting Paragraph use cases Colin has seen so far
16:24 How do they manage to ship features so fast, and why waitlist doesn’t make sense in most products
19:40 How do they decide what to include on their roadmap
21:12 Why they’ve been integrating with web3 social and how it works in practice
23:17 How they acquired their first 10 users via cold outreach on Twitter, and why they didn’t implement any crypto functionalities in v1
25:16 What they’ve been doing to acquire 5k+ users and how they used the market situation to their advantage
28:40 How do they measure success in their product and why just looking at the number of writers or readers wouldn’t work
30:34 What do they do to protect newsletters from landing in the spam box
33:09 What are their plans for integrating wallets and why is infra not ready for it yet
36:43How does wallets x Paragraph x Farcaster integration work technically and why do they use Searchcaster
39:20 How a developer built a streaming payment with Superfluid on top of Paragraph without needing any permission
40:51 How getting developers to build on top of their APIs was easier than he thought
44:13 Why choosing the right feature set for their niche was so hard and why web3 UX & e-mail limitations led to design challenges
47:10 What would Colin build if he wasn’t building Paragraph
50:00 Why would he get rid of airdrop hunters and speculators with his web3 magic wand and add new useful dapps with great UX
52:33 Colin’s favorite web3 projects (spoiler alert: he mentions Farcaster)
56:00 Where can you learn more about Paragraph
57:01 What other builders would be a great fit for the podcast

Jan 16, 2023 • 32min
#37: Olly Wilson, Co-Founder @ SimpleHash | Building a multichain NFT API that’s used by projects such as Phantom & Rainbow
SimpleHash is one of the most powerful NFT APIs in the space. It's being used by wallets, portfolio trackers & web3 games. Olly Wilson came to the pod to share the backstage perspective of their ultra fast growth.
Timestamps:
0:38
What is SimpleHash
1:39
How their Co-Founder got tired of building back-end infra for an NFT project and decided to start SimpleHash
2:47
Why is indexing NFTs across many chains so hard?
5:25
How being in YC helped them to acquire first users
6:22
Why they ditched the idea of an NFT search tool
7:10
What's their process for supporting and integrating new chains
9:34
Why do they go very deep into NFT data and specialize to compete with other NFT APIs
11:40
How do they solve the corrupted media problems in NFTs
12:37
How they designed the NFT Spam Score to protect wallets from unsolicited and scammy airdrops
15:11
What are their most important metrics?
16:20
Why is everyone on their team involved in customer support, and how do they decide what features to implement?
19:20
Why Olly likes the OG NFT projects
20:50
Olly's thoughts on utility NFTs
21:55
Why joining YC was worth it
23:35
What growth & tech challenges do they see on the horizon?
24:49
How do they take care of their business's infra side, and why is 850M indexed NFTs still a small dataset?
26:00
What would he build if he weren't building SimpleHash?
26:20
Why removing the scams would be the target of his magic wand?
27:00
Why Ethereum Merge is the most mind-blowing project that Olly has seen
28:26
Why he likes the crypto twitter's dark humor
29:20
Where to find out more about SimpleHash

Dec 21, 2022 • 42min
#36: Gilbert Leung, Co-Founder @ 0xFrens | From working in Google to building a tool that leverages the strengths of web3 to develop deeper connections in online communities
0xFrens is a matchmaking tool used by web3 communities such as: Developer DAO, Jericho & Skylab. Gilbert - Co-Founder of the project - spent almost a decade at Google, then started his social podcasting startup, and in 2022, he started working on 0xFrens with the rest of the AGMI team.
0:37 What’s 0xFrens, and how it helps communities to build relationships between members
1:40 How talking with communities & DAOs inspired them to start 0xFrens
4:30 What has Gilbert been doing at Google for almost ten years & what was his previous social podcasting startup about
5:25 How 0xFrens plays into web3 strengths, what was their MVP, and why they pivoted
7:17 What insights from users surprised them, and how they iterated based on this information
9:05 Why online coffee chats can be awkward and how 0xFrens addresses that
12:15 How they acquired their first users and how they do it (and why “web3 lunch club” wasn’t a good idea)
14:35 What metrics do they follow to track product engagement, and why does choosing the right community to work with matter the most
17:54 How Kudos might become important for building a reputation in a community
22:08 Which lessons from Google & previous startup are the most useful
25:30 Why the biggest growth & tech challenges on the horizon are related to web2 users
27:10 Why solving reputation-related challenges is omnipresent both in web2 and web3
28:08 Why it’s so hard to face market feedback and make decisions based on the data
31:45 Why would Gilbert build onboarding-related tools if he wasn’t building 0xFrens
33:08 Why would he fix seed phrases with his web3 magic wand
34:57 Why web3 ecosystem is so mind-blowing
38:24 What made him smile while using 0xFrens
39:33 Where you can learn more about 0xFrens
40:31 Guests ideas

Dec 12, 2022 • 41min
#35: Josef, Co-Founder @ PWN | How a bank denying him a mortgage inspired them to build a P2P lending platform where you can use any token as collateral
PWN is a decentralized pawnshop where you can use any tokens as collateral. But it’s just the beginning. Their ultimate goal is to provide crypto loans for decades so that you will never need to sell your crypto. I spoke with Josef, PWN’s Co-Founder, who shared their story, challenges & growth strategies.
TIMESTAMPS:
0:38 PWN as a decentralized pawnshop
1:35 How not being able to get a mortgage & risk of DeFi liquidations inspired Josef to start PWN
9:30 Why they decided to give more protection to borrowers by not baking up loan liquidations from the start
13:43 How do they plan to implement filtering to protect the tool from SPAM offers while still keeping the platform open
17:31 How they designed their smart contract to support ERC20, ERC721 & ERC1155 tokens
19:16 Why it’s so hard to develop everything in a crypto-native manner, and they decided to make some shortcuts at this stage
21:10 How they acquired their first users and how they expanded from the friends & family stage by breaking the “stay focused” rule and cooperating with other communities
25:30 How will their tech let GameFi players borrow money on their in-game assets and still use them in the game
27:08 How they let you borrow money to buy NFT assets in a mortgage-like manner
29:19 Most interesting collaterals on PWN - Nation3 DAO, Aavegotchis & Beeple’s $250k art piece
31:40 Trade-offs: openness vs. niche, utilizing third parties vs. decentralized operations
32:50 Why would Josef stay at EF if he wasn’t building PWN
33:30 Why MakerDAO blew his mind
35:20 Why would he make all grifters disappear with his web3 magic wand
37:55 Where should people go to learn more about PWN
39:00 Guests ideas

Dec 1, 2022 • 48min
#34: Evgeny Yurtaev, Co-Founder & CEO @ Zerion | How building in DeFi since 2016 led to launching a wallet that generated 80k+ active users in less than 6 months
Zerion is one of the OG crypto companies, operating since 2016. It started as a tool to do fundraising through token sales. Then it transformed into a DeFi exploration tool where you could track & invest in different assets. Then it expanded into NFTs & other web3 assets. And a few months ago, they also joined the wallet space and already got 80k+ users.
What inspired them to start? Why they made so many pivots? And why they're confident that they can compete in a hard wallet space? I spoke with Evgeny, Zerion's Co-Founder, who shared the backstage perspective of the last 6 years of running Zerion.
TIMESTAMPS:
0:38 What’s Zerion and why they pivoted a lot since 2016
2:20 Evgeny experience at Google, with chatbots and with a crypto trading app that got 1M+ downloads
3:59 Why meeting Vitalik inspired them to start Zerion
6:10 How they started as a smart contract developers’ team
7:10 Why the 2019 bear market prompted them to pivot to build a token tracking aggregator
8:30 How a blog post about fundraising inspired them to go to San Francisco to earn funding and get the first users
10:33 Why they entered the aggregators & wallets space, and why are these markets less crowded than Mac thinks
14:05 Why there are so few wallets on the market and why the timing is so important
16:45 Which use cases do they cover with their wallet
19:05 How they designed the wallet so it’s useful both for beginners and more advanced users (Web3 Citizens)
20:52 What was the hardest part about making the wallet multi-chain
21:47 How they want to battle MetaMask and why web3 helps them to do it
25:22 What web3-native marketing tactics such as NFT collections and community-building let them acquire tens of thousands of users
28:32 How does their NFT collection that changes based on your wallet activity work
30:45 Why on-chain information can be a goldmine for marketers
33:42 The vision behind their API, why it’s been used by Rainbow Wallet and StakeDAO, and why having it centralized might be okay
36:05 Why wallet can become an e-mail on steroids
38:19 Why open architecture of web3 makes it better for users
39:35 Why building the wallet was the hardest decision Evgeny had to make while running Zerion
40:45 What would Evgeny build if he wasn’t building Zerion
41:25 Why would he fix privacy with his magic web3 wand
42:25 Which web3 projects he found interesting
45:40 Where to learn more about Zerion
46:30 Ideas for other web3 builders

Nov 22, 2022 • 47min
#33: Ivan Liljeqvist, Co-Founder @ Moralis | From 0 to 90+ employees in less than 2 years - how they've grown web3 infra business
Moralis joined a pretty crowded web3 infra market in 2020, and it's already become an important player serving projects such as MetaMask and Polygon. How did they do it? I talk with Ivan, Moralis Co-Founder, who shares the backstage perspective of their last 2 years.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:38 Who is Ivan & Moralis, and what got him interested in blockchain
3:52 How their web2 experience inspired them to start Moralis
4:40 Why they entered a crowded infrastructure space with many already established players such as Alchemy, Infura & QuickNode
7:25 Why it’s hard to bootstrap infrastructure business and how they leveraged their online education platform to grow it
9:29 How not thinking too much helped them to start and grow
11:29 How their SDK & APIs help developers to better understand on-chain events
14:51 Why their onboarding process has quite a lot of friction
17:50 How they build strong relations with developers via free education, hackathons & Discord
20:27 How their YouTube channel & hackathon helped to acquire their first users
21:30 How they managed to grow the 100% remote company from 0 to 90+ people in 2 years
24:44 How being upfront about their way of working helped them to recruit the right people
27:08 Why cutting down features was hard and what they learned on the way
28:44 How do they decide what to include in their SDKs
29:48 What does he think about centralization risks by using centralized infrastructure
34:03 Why team building was the biggest lesson he learned from running Moralis
37:45 What would he fix about web3 with the magic wand
39:40 What has been the most interesting project he has seen
42:26 Why craziness of the crypto industry makes Ivan laugh
44:14 Where to learn more about Moralis
44:32 Guest ideas

Nov 13, 2022 • 3min
Mac Budkowski, Host @ Web3 Talks | How to explain what your web3 product does and convince users to try it [Builder’s Guide]
Hey everyone, today I got the info about something I've been working on for a long time.
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Oct 25, 2022 • 60min
#32: Dan Romero, Co-Founder @ Farcaster | How two Coinbase early employees designed one of the most thriving web3 social networks: product decisions,tech trade-offs & community building tactics
Dan Romero was employee #20 at Coinbase. After helping to build the company for 5 years, he left Coinbase in 2019 to build an alternative to Twitter with his Coinbase colleague, Varun Srinivasan. This idea transformed into Farcaster - a web3 social network that has become a go-to place for the crypto community in the last few months.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:38 What is Farcaster
1:20 How Dan Romero became employee #20 at Coinbase and what he learned about crypto, and why he left in 2019
4:32 Why RSS lost and how Farcaster started as RSS+
6:56 Farcaster as a Twitter for crypto people, sufficient decentralized social network, why it’s great for users and developers, and what are parallels to crypto exchanges
12:23 What’s so unique about their user onboarding process, and which parts have been inspired by Coinbase
19:00 How permissionless building inspired the community to build a bot to make onboarding greater
20:25 Why they went for slow growth… just like Facebook
22:44 Why are they more interested in Daily Active Users than sign-up growth
26:29 Special moments that Farcaster delivers and how they designed the app to facilitate them
30:00 Why they don’t have quote tweets
34:15 What apps have already been built on top of Farcaster
37:00 Why developers should be able to create new social experiences
38:39 History of pseudonymous co-creators of the US Constitution
40:00 Why does the growing amount of data inspire people to build apps on top of Farcaster
42:45 How web3 social makes it much easier to start a new social app
45:52 How does Farcaster works technically, and how it’s similar to Domain Name System
51:11 Why they gathered FC developers on Telegram instead of Discord
52:45 What’s the 6 months plan for Farcaster, and what’s their 3 years vision
55:50 How switching clients would help people to “build their own Facebook”
58:24 Where people can learn more about Farcaster

Oct 18, 2022 • 1h 9min
#31: Ouriel Ohayon, Co-Founder @ ZenGo | How they built an MPC wallet to get rid of seed phrases and what they did to acquire over 700k users
ZenGo has been the pioneer in MPC research and the most popular consumer MPC wallet in the world. Ouriel shares the backstage perspective of their early days, acquiring the first users, their product strategy, ClearSign wallet firewall, and marketing activities that led to over 700k users (which is a lot for a wallet!).
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0:37 Who’s Ouriel Ohayon and why ZenGo is special
1:03 How Ouriel transformed from a crypto skeptic to a crypto optimist by listening to a podcast episode in 2016
3:10 Ouriel’s story when he didn’t like any wallets on the market and decided to design his own
5:10 How they researched different options and learned they couldn’t get rid of private keys so started researching MPC (Multi Party Computation) and became one of the world’s leaders in that space
10:25 How does MPC work, why it’s different from a traditional wallet security, what trade-offs does it make and why it’s being used by Coinbase, Fireblocks & American banks
18:04 What would happen when ZenGo’s servers go down and how they protect the company from this kind of events
19:53 What’s the difference between MPC and Account Abstraction
23:38 Why Mac would recommend ZenGo to his father
25:13 How have they acquired their first wallet users by marketing cryptopgrahy before they started marketing the wallet and how do they promote it now
30:15 How do they take care of the user’s security & UX
32:46 How do they make money and what are their plans for new services
35:55 How does their ClearSign wallet firewall protects the users from attacks
44:10 Why Mac believes we can solve crypto security
45:10 Why Ouriel thinks of crypto as an early car industry and the story about Elon Musk’s driving McLaren F1 with Peter Thiel
51:15 What were some dead-end streets that they explored
56:06 Why would Ouriel fix gas with his web3 magic wand
59:22 What could be solved in the web3 mobile experience
1:02:40 What made Ouriel smile
1:04:50 Where people can learn more about ZenGo
1:06:09 Guest idea

Oct 10, 2022 • 44min
#30: Leighton, Co-Founder @ PoolTogether | The story behind the OG DeFi protocol which has distributed over $5 million to depositors as a reward for saving money
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PoolTogether is known as the #1 DeFi protocol that encourages saving. Depositors participate in a lottery-like process where their deposited money can win prizes. But contrary to a lottery - even if they don't win, they keep their money. The luckiest winner ever deposited $73 and won over $43k, reaching a 589X return.
How it's possible? How Leighton came up with the idea? How was PoolTogether built, how they got it secured, and how they dealt with the lawsuit?
Here's episode #30:
0:50 What is PoolTogether, and how it encourages saving
2:00 How PoolTogether started as the result of Leighton's research on TradFi tools that make people more wealthy
3:45 How blockchain makes the premium bonds model more transparent and scalable
5:40 How PoolTogether works technically: non-custodial design, integrations with yield sources, random numbers generation, price tiering contracts
9:19 How have they acquired the first users in May 2019?
12:10 Mitigating security risks via reducing attack surface area, no oracle dependencies, non-custodial design, internal testing, bug bounties, investing over $1M in third-party auditors
15:15 How have they educated the market about PoolTogether?
16:56 The story behind Poolies that raised over $1.5M for combating the lawsuit
24:11 At what stage is the lawsuit right now
26:00 What needs to happen for PoolTogether to reach a truly global adoption
21:30 How do they take care of the community
32:03 Why crowdfunding on the blockchain might be a killer app
34:22 What Leighton would fix with his web3 magic wand
36:35 Why MakerDAO & Gearbox blew his mind
38:42 Why was Uniswap airdrop such a magical moment for Leighton
41:20 Where people can learn more about PoolTogether
42:18 Leighton's guest ideas


