
The Grey Pages with Brave Cities
In Hugh and Taylors new book they explore lots of questions about the changing landscape of faith, church, and life. They share countless stories and lessons from their experience cultivating Kingdom ecosystems. The Grey Pages podcast is where Hugh, Taylor, Jon & friends explore and reflect on this journey together. There are a lot of publications out there known as White Papers that give an in-depth report or guide on a specific topic over which the author has deep knowledge and mastery. Grey Pages are not as much of a guide or a report as a shared journey of discovery. Join us!
Latest episodes

Nov 6, 2024 • 60min
S2 E1 Ears to Hear | Invitation Over Correction w/ Lance Ford
We're back!!!
Welcome to Season Two of Grey Pages!
In this episode we were joined by Lance Ford to wrestle with the question of what the spirit of God might be saying to the Church today. We had a great time reflecting on and exploring the question together and we hope you enjoy it as much as we did.

Oct 12, 2024 • 59min
A Timely Discussion | Hurricanes, Apocalypse, & Storm Chasers
We just recorded this as part of season 2 but decided to go ahead and release it right away since it is fresh on everyone's minds.
We plan to start releasing season 2 episode at the beginning of November!

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Jul 1, 2024 • 1h 12min
Brave Cities Primer
Learn about pioneering microchurch communities, creativity in urban settings, and building kingdom ecosystems. Follow a family's journey to a river town in Illinois and the transformation of a building into a community hub. Explore holy subversion, community transformation, power of partnership, and legacy in intentional homes.

Jun 3, 2024 • 38min
Season 1 Wrap Up
We have come to the end of season one! In this episode we reflect a bit on the journey of both recording these convos as well as writing the manuscript for the Brave Cities book. We share some plans we have about further developing these conversations over the break. While we may share some little clips and bonus episodes over the summer, we will also be on a bit of a break from the current rhythm of releasing episodes! We hope you have enjoyed this journey with us and we look forward to the conversations to come in season 2!

May 27, 2024 • 1h 5min
Ep 26 ReWire with JD Ward
In this episode Taylor and Hugh dig into the story and work of ReWire with JD Ward. ReWire is an incredible missionary order that is working with practitioners that are establishing kingdom outposts in strategic places throughout the word. They are helping these missional leaders learn rhythms and disciplines that will help them stay in a contemplative posture as they engage in the work. ReWire has also been the title sponsor of season one of Grey Pages and we are so grateful for their partnership as well as their friendship. Please enjoy this conversation with JD

May 20, 2024 • 1h 32min
Ep 25 Practitioners, Developing a Taste for Mission w/ Dezi Baker & Neil Cole
This conversation with Dezi and Neil was recorded in person while together in Kansas City for a gathering of microchurch networks. We stole away into a side room and had an incredible conversation about so many things, among which were topics like the prophetic and apostolic combo, the principles we work to embody, and the reframing of personal well-being for the missionary.

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May 13, 2024 • 1h 6min
Ep 24 The Future & Our Deepest Kingdom Instincts W/ Alan Hirsch
Alan Hirsch, expert in navigating tough topics, delves into death, failure, famine, and the future. Discussions on success, failure, church dynamics, sacrifice, and renewal. Embracing core values, unity in crisis, and transformative power of collective experiences.

May 6, 2024 • 1h 16min
Ep 23 Shadows, Shade, & the Subversion of Love
This is a follow up to our previous conversation on episode 22 'Building in Babylon.' This time we have Joel Repic with us sharing a bit about a recent encounter with the powers. There are a few moments in this episode that the picture and sound drops off as we edited out a few mentions of the actual location where Joel was in an effort to be cautious about the important work going on there.

May 2, 2024 • 60min
Ep 22 Building in Babylon
Delving into the symbolism of Babylon, this podcast explores the historical and modern implications of power struggles. It discusses the ancient civilization of Babylon, mythological tales of gods and creation, and reflections on personal values vs. global events. The conversation also touches on Jesus' wisdom, spirituality within institutions, and the importance of non-violent direct action against oppressive powers.

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Apr 22, 2024 • 59min
Ep 21 Do the Work
Returning guest Rodney Fickas discusses the value of work. They dive into embracing creativity, navigating challenges in artistic pursuits, and the transformative nature of work. The conversation also explores authenticity in creation, the importance of hard work and discipline, and balancing artistic integrity with commercial success.