This conversation with Dezi and Neil was recorded in person while together in Kansas City for a gathering of microchurch networks. We stole away into a side room and had an incredible conversation about so many things, among which were topics like the prophetic and apostolic combo, the principles we work to embody, and the reframing of personal well-being for the missionary.

Alan Hirsch, expert in navigating tough topics, delves into death, failure, famine, and the future. Discussions on success, failure, church dynamics, sacrifice, and renewal. Embracing core values, unity in crisis, and transformative power of collective experiences.

This is a follow up to our previous conversation on episode 22 'Building in Babylon.' This time we have Joel Repic with us sharing a bit about a recent encounter with the powers. There are a few moments in this episode that the picture and sound drops off as we edited out a few mentions of the actual location where Joel was in an effort to be cautious about the important work going on there.

Delving into the symbolism of Babylon, this podcast explores the historical and modern implications of power struggles. It discusses the ancient civilization of Babylon, mythological tales of gods and creation, and reflections on personal values vs. global events. The conversation also touches on Jesus' wisdom, spirituality within institutions, and the importance of non-violent direct action against oppressive powers.

Returning guest Rodney Fickas discusses the value of work. They dive into embracing creativity, navigating challenges in artistic pursuits, and the transformative nature of work. The conversation also explores authenticity in creation, the importance of hard work and discipline, and balancing artistic integrity with commercial success.

After their time together in Orlando for the Exponential conference, the crew came back together to reflect on the role of prophetic practitioners in todays gatherings such as the conference. It's fascinating to hear Taylor and Hugh share about their experience talking about Brave Cities with the gathering of church planters they got to connect with.

Lance Ford, servanthood expert, discusses leadership dynamics in mission communities, importance of language in leadership roles, navigating identity in community settings, empowering emerging leaders, and redefining leadership paradigms in a kingdom ecosystem.

This is a really fun conversation about the call go to hell.

Dr. David Fitch, gospel expert, discusses the immeasurable gospel's significance, moving beyond personal salvation. Topics include power dynamics in churches, living a kingdom life, and promoting change through Jesus' reign in communities. Emphasizes a broader understanding of faith, relational evangelism, and the non-coercive nature of God's presence.

This brother is a builder! Hugh came back from a visit to Lance's ecosystem and told the team that we had to get him on and hear his story. In this episode we did just that. Lance has built so much and we are so excited to be able to share this conversation with you here.