
What Next | Daily News and Analysis
The problem with the news right now? It’s everywhere. And each day, it can feel like we’re all just mindlessly scrolling. It’s why we created What Next. This short daily show is here to help you make sense of things. When the news feels overwhelming, we’re here to help you answer: What next? Look for new episodes every weekday morning.
Latest episodes

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Apr 15, 2025 • 32min
Trump’s Weaponized IRS
In this discussion, guest Francine Lipman, a law professor and tax law expert from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, delves into the troubling collaboration between the IRS and immigration enforcement. She highlights how unauthorized immigrants, who contribute significantly to federal tax revenue, face increased risks due to recent policy shifts. Lipman emphasizes the potential chilling effects on communities and the historical parallels of marginalized groups being exploited. She advocates for a more humane approach to immigration and taxation, raising critical questions about justice in America.

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Apr 14, 2025 • 31min
Project 2025’s Plan for Your Family
David Graham, an Atlantic staff writer and author, discusses Project 2025's agenda, which aims to redefine family as a cornerstone of American life. He delves into the project’s implications, including the controversial emphasis on traditional gender roles and the potential impact on same-sex marriages. The conversation touches on educational policies influenced by Milton Friedman, concerns about wealth inequality, and the challenges working mothers face. Graham also highlights the conservative push for old-fashioned family structures and its effects on women's autonomy.

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Apr 13, 2025 • 25min
TBD | TikTok: Somehow Also Affected by the Tariffs
In this enlightening discussion, Sapna Maheshwari, a New York Times reporter specializing in TikTok and technology, delves into the precarious state of TikTok amidst U.S.-China trade tensions. She highlights how recent tariffs have complicated its potential sale to a non-Chinese company, creating a race against time. The talk further explores national security concerns and shifting political views on TikTok under both the Trump and Biden administrations. As creators grapple with uncertainty, the future of the platform hangs in the balance.

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Apr 11, 2025 • 27min
TBD | Trump Tariffs Hit Mushroom Kingdom
Jason Koebler, co-founder of 404 Media, dives into the intersection of gaming and trade policy. He discusses the unveiling of the Nintendo Switch 2 alongside Trump's new tariffs, which could significantly raise prices for gamers. Koebler highlights Nintendo's potential shift in manufacturing from China to countries like Vietnam and Cambodia, addressing how these changes impact the gaming industry. Further, he explores the economic ripple effects on sectors like agriculture, showcasing the complexities of current trade policies.

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Apr 10, 2025 • 30min
Impeachment From the Bottom Up
Gabe Garbowit, a former Senate staffer and political organizer at citizensimpeachment.com, advocates for a citizen-driven effort to impeach Donald Trump. He discusses the recent 'Hands Off!' protests against Trump and Elon Musk, emphasizing the need for direct action from citizens to hold leaders accountable. Gabe shares insights on grassroots movements, the impact of personal narratives in political engagement, and the importance of mobilizing citizens to contact their congressional representatives about impeachment. He highlights how local media can sway public opinion in this context.

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Apr 9, 2025 • 29min
A Cancelled Actor Scripts His Comeback
CT Jones, a culture writer at Rolling Stone, dives deep into Jonathan Majors' tumultuous career, from promising indie star to facing legal scandals. They discuss the irony of Majors promoting 'Magazine Dreams,' a film about a troubled bodybuilder, while navigating his own demons. The conversation explores Hollywood's complex narratives on redemption and accountability, questioning if societal perceptions are changing. Jones also reflects on the implications for the Black community and the evolving standards of fame and forgiveness in today’s entertainment industry.

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Apr 8, 2025 • 33min
The Mass Grave in Gaza
Aya Batrawy, an NPR international correspondent based in Dubai, sheds light on the intense humanitarian crisis in Gaza. She discusses the perilous conditions for aid workers, detailing tragic incidents of violence against them. Batrawy highlights the dire shortages of food and medical supplies, affecting the most vulnerable populations, especially children. The conversation digs into Israel's military strategy under President Trump's plan and the international community's response to the urgent need for aid amidst ongoing conflict.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 33min
The Upside Of Tariffs
Jonathan Last, the Editor of The Bulwark and a voice in conservative political commentary, dives deep into the complexities of Trump's tariffs. He discusses the flawed logic behind trade imbalances and how tariffs could lead to economic turmoil for political gain. The conversation turns to the upcoming 2024 elections, analyzing voter sentiment and the disconnect between consumer perception and economic reality. Last encourages listeners to reflect on the political motivations behind tariffs and their implications for democracy.

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Apr 6, 2025 • 36min
TBD | Why Wall Street Can’t Quit Elon
Felix Salmon, Chief Financial Correspondent at Axios and co-host of Slate Money, dives into Elon Musk's intriguing connection with Wall Street. He discusses Wall Street's enduring support for Musk, despite controversy surrounding his leadership. The conversation highlights the clash between Musk's unorthodox style and traditional corporate norms while unpacking Tesla's recent sales decline. Salmon also explores the implications of Musk's unpredictability for investors and the complex interplay between financial markets and political dynamics.

24 snips
Apr 4, 2025 • 31min
TBD | Where DOGE Is Taking Us
Makena Kelly, a senior writer at WIRED who delves into the intersection of politics and technology, discusses the looming layoffs of 10,000 employees at the Department of Health and Human Services. She highlights the potential dangers these cuts pose to public health and safety. The conversation also covers the influence of Dogecoin on government dynamics, including how its rise mirrors political changes and raises concerns about privatization. Kelly critiques the treatment of constituents as customers, similar to Elon Musk’s approach at Twitter.