
Techquitable
Welcome to the Techquitable podcast, your audio guide through the complex landscape of emerging technologies and equitable ownership.
Hosted by Connor Spelliscy and Tony Douglas Jr. of the Decentralization Research Center, this podcast will host a diverse array of voices — from researchers and policy makers to forward-thinking entrepreneurs and industry leaders — to keep you informed on the latest findings and research surrounding decentralization, governance and emerging technologies.
Latest episodes

Apr 15, 2025 • 26min
SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce on decentralization, Crypto Task Force and ongoing rulemaking
SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce spoke with us at the Decentralized Tech Summit to share her thoughts on how decentralization should impact securities regulation, her work leading the SEC's Crypto Task Force and exit tests for her proposed Safe Harbor. It was one of her most detailed public conversations focused solely on decentralization.Timestamps:[1:06] How crypto roundtables impact rulemaking[4:12] Marrying existing regulation with future rules[9:40] How the industry can best engage with the administration[11:17] Managing retail protection without harming builders[13:26] Her changing perspective on the Safe Harbor exit test[19:40] What to expect next from the SEC[21:14] How the SEC achieves their crypto-related goals& much more.

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Mar 11, 2025 • 41min
How decentralized governance has evolved, with Dr. Michael Abramowicz
Dr. Michael Abramowicz, Associate Dean for Strategy and Innovation at George Washington University, unpacks the evolution of decentralized blockchain governance. He highlights how blockchain adjudication methods are revolutionizing decision-making, while emphasizing the importance of incentives in these systems. Dr. Abramowicz critiques current practices and discusses historical frameworks like Kleros. He also touches on the tension between traditional business hierarchies and newer decentralized models, revealing how technology challenges existing legal structures.

Feb 11, 2025 • 51min
The past, present and future of blockchain governance, with Primavera De Filippi, Wessel Reijers and Morshed Mannan
The authors of recently published “Blockchain Governance” joined the Techquitable podcast to discuss how governance over blockchain communities is formed. It was a pleasure to learn about their research on governance and the importance of decentralization in blockchain communities.Timestamps:[2:40] - Why collaborate to write a book on blockchain governance?[6:15] - Who should read the book? Why?[17:00] - Tension between how regulation should work, and how it actually does[28:35] - Different governance structures[34:11] - Will we reach a consistent perspective on the optimal blockchain governance approach?[41:00] - What each author hopes readers learn from their bookFor more on each guest:Primavera (@yaoeo) is a Director of Research at the National Center of Scientific Research (CNRS) in Paris, Faculty Associate at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University.Wessel (@WesselReijers) is a Postdoctoral Researcher at the Department of Media Studies, Paderborn University, where he explores the nature of distributed governance.Morshed (@MannanMorshed) is a Research Fellow at the Robert Schuman Centre for Advanced Studies at the European University Institute, where his research focuses on blockchain governance.

Jan 13, 2025 • 54min
Andy Hall of Stanford on the future of decentralization, democracy and emerging tech.
Andy Hall, a political economy expert at Stanford and advisor to major tech firms, delves into the evolution of governance in the context of emerging technologies. He reflects on how the 2016 election pivoted his career towards blockchain and Web3 governance. The discussion highlights the importance of decentralized decision-making, the potential longevity of excitement in crypto, and the need for academia to tackle real-world challenges. With a tone of optimism, Andy envisions a future where technology enhances democratic processes and fosters user agency.

Dec 2, 2024 • 38min
America's lagging crypto policy with Sheila Warren of the Crypto Council for Innovation
@sheila_warren is the CEO of the Crypto Council for Innovation, a premier global alliance for advancing the promise of digital assets through research, education and advocacy.
In 2023, Sheila was voted one of the most influential women in DC by the Washingtonian and previously founded the World Economic Forum’s blockchain and digital assets team.
It was a pleasure to have her join the Techquitable podcast to share her perspective on the stalled crypto policy in America, her work at CCI and much more.
Timestamps:
[1:50] - Sheila’s background in data
[6:39] - The new Trump administration’s impact on crypto
[14:25] - The importance of crypto in the recent U.S. election
[19:45] - CCI’s approach to policy engagement
[20:40] - Decentralization as the next foundational question
[23:20] - Interoperability between critical jurisdictions
[29:10] - Sheila’s biggest concern for the crypto industry

Oct 14, 2024 • 43min
Self-sovereignty, security and decentralization: Research discussion with Dr. Kelsie Nabben
Dr. Kelsie Nabben, an ethnographic researcher focusing on the social impacts of emerging technologies, discusses the intricacies of decentralized systems. She shares insights into resilience within blockchain and the challenges of researching in the digital realm. The conversation navigates vulnerabilities in digital networks and highlights community-driven solutions. Kelsie also addresses the ethical implications of blockchain security, emphasizing the role of accountability in decentralized finance and the future potential of these technologies.

Sep 9, 2024 • 46min
Paul Brigner: The centralized internet is a mistake we can’t afford to make again
Paul Brigner leads the Coinbase Institute and is the founder of the PGP* (Pretty Good Policy) for Crypto group. He joined us on the Techquitable podcast to discuss what he’s hearing in Washington, the importance of decentralization and much more.
Timestamps:
[3:00] - Paul’s unique background
[9:20] - The progression of the internet
[11:40] - The current blockchain advocacy community in DC
[19:40] - Announcing the DC Privacy Summit
[20:55] - How to best educate staffers and opportunities for blockchain
[25:45] - The importance of decentralization
[32:00] - How do we avoid the mistakes of the past?

Aug 12, 2024 • 46min
The evolution of blockchain policy in the U.S., with Kyle Bligen, Director of Financial Policy at the Chamber of Progress
Kyle Bligen, Director of Financial Policy at the Chamber of Progress joins the Techquitable podcast to discuss what he’s hearing in Washington on legislation affecting blockchain technology, decentralization and much more.
Timestamps:
[0:30] - Introduction to Kyle
[2:50] - What Kyle is hearing on the Hill
[7:40] - The current campaign landscape and former President Trump
[10:00] - Policy priorities ahead of the election
[15:00] - Are policymakers sufficiently educated?
[20:00] - Is policy trending in an equitable direction?
[25:12] - Kyle’s recommendations for future policy
[33:11] - A look into Congress and their relationship with blockchain technology

Jul 9, 2024 • 28min
The future of constitutions and blockchains with Professor Eric Alston
Professor Eric Alston, a DRC Fellow specializing in economics and law, shares his insightful perspectives on decentralization in digital governance. He discusses the transformative impact of blockchains on constitutions and institutions. Alston highlights the balance between privacy rights and compliance, introducing zero-knowledge proofs as a key solution. He also emphasizes the need for equitable governance models that prioritize user needs in a hyper-connected world, advocating for a passion-driven approach to career growth in this evolving landscape.

Jun 10, 2024 • 25min
How Congressman Wiley Nickel is promoting openness and accessibility for emerging tech
Congressman Wiley Nickel (@RepWileyNickel) is currently serving his first term in Congress as the U.S. Representative of the 13th District of North Carolina which includes Wake, Wayne, Johnston and Harnett Counties.
Prior to being elected to Congress, Wiley served as a North Carolina State Senator, attorney, small business owner and worked for two White House administrations.
This conversation occurred at the 2024 Equitable Tech Summit, which the DRC co-hosted in Washington, D.C.
0:55 - Why does the Congressman engage in tech policy?
4:10 - How can policy balance innovation and consumer protection?
7:00 - Will President Joe Biden soften his stance on digital assets?
10:40 - The importance of decentralization
16:20 - How academics can best influence policy
23:35 - What does equitable ownership and governance mean to Congressman Wiley?
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