
Beyond the Scope
Beyond The Scope, a new podcast by the Digital Pathology Association, focuses on hot topics in digital pathology. Co-hosts Dr. Giovanni Lujan (OSUWMC) and Dr. David Tulman (Instapath) converse with key opinion leaders in an engaging format discussing all of the new research, technology, and workflows emerging in digital pathology. Beyond The Scope aims to cover specific topics ranging from artificial intelligence to computational pathology, whole slide imaging to in/ex-vivo microscopy, regulation and commercialization, and more! For more information on the DPA, please visit https://digitalpathologyassociation.org/.
Latest episodes

Apr 30, 2021 • 31min
George Green, PhD | Bristol Myers Squibb
Send us a textGeorge Green, Head of Pharmacodiagnostics at Bristol Meyers Squibb, joins Beyond the Scope to discuss the pharmaceutical industry's perspective on digital pathology and artificial intelligence. The conversation revolves around how digital pathology will see increased applications in the current era of precision medicine.1:22 Introduction 4:15 The companion diagnostics revolution in pharma9:54 Early applications of digital pathology in pharma14:38 How the mindset of pathologists has evolved since the dawn of DP/AI19:55 Pharma perspective on how DP/AI will drive the future of precision medicine25:00 Increasing DP adoption in the pharma industry28:40 Digital pathology bringing better patient care around the worldA forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Apr 6, 2021 • 36min
Esther Abels | Visiopharm; DPA President-Elect
Send us a textEsther Abels, co-chair of the DPA Regulatory & Standards Task Force, has worked on the regulatory approval of digital pathology systems since the beginning. She joins Beyond The Scope to discuss her current role advancing the regulatory science of digital pathology and provides an update on the initiatives of the DPA Regulatory and Standards Task Force. Esther also discusses the excitement surrounding digital pathology for precision medicine.2:21 Introduction6:25 Early applications of digital pathology to the pharma industry8:00 Process of validating and achieving FDA approval of the first slide scanners10:00 How collaboration and teamwork help achieve regulatory approval17:48 Current initiatives of the DPA Regulatory and Standars Task Force21:40 510(k) exemption of digital pathology devices25:00 Real world data initiative and is remote sign out permanent?31:08 Using digital pathology for precision medicineA forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Mar 30, 2021 • 24min
Dr. Talat Zehra, MBBS, FCPS | Jinnah Sindh Medical University,Karachi,Pakistan
Send us a textTalat Zehra is a pathologist at Jinnah Sindh University in Karachi, Pakistan. Dr. Zehra joins Beyond The Scope to share how the scarcity of pathologists in Pakistan and many other regions of the world affect patient care. Dr. Zehra also discusses the advantages and challenges of bringing digital pathology to developing countries.1:00 Introduction3:30 Dr. Zehra's research with WSI in Pakistan6:15 Pathology services in Pakistan and other developing countries13:15 Pathology in rural areas of the world14:33 Benefits of digital pathology in developing countries17:42 Challenges of digital pathology adoption in developing countries19:05 Ideas for vendors and other pathologists to help increase adoption in developing countriesPlease visit other resources mentioned in this podcast:https://digitalpathologyassociation.org/blog/digital-pathology-enabling-remote-operations-during-covid-19-pandemic-and-beyond-pathologist-perception-working-in-pakistanhttps://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/digital-pathology-dawns-in-developing-countries.htmlA forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Mar 17, 2021 • 43min
Liron Pantanowitz, MD | University of Michigan
Send us a textLiron Pantanowitz is an early adopter and major driving force behind global digital pathology adoption. He currently serves as a Professor in the Department of Pathology at the University of Michigan and has authored hundreds of papers related to digital pathology. Dr. Pantanowitz joins David and Giovanni to discuss the past, present, and future of digital pathology. This podcast is a must-listen for all levels of digital pathology adopters.5:45 Introduction and background leading to a career focused on digital pathology8:38 Milestones of digital pathology adoption12:10 Digital pathology applications and the business case15:46 The effect of COVID-19 on digital pathology adoption23:23 Global digital pathology adoption29:00 Training the next generation of digital pathologists41:04 What's next for digital pathologyA forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Mar 10, 2021 • 37min
Monica Santamaria-Fries, MD | Proscia
Send us a textMonica Santamaria-Fries is the Digital Transformation Officer at Proscia, a role where she uses her extensive experience as a pathologist to bridge the gap in communicating novel digital pathology technology to the pathology community. Dr. Santamaria-Fries joins the show to discuss her role in digital pathology innovation, the annual digital pathology report generated by Proscia, and why the time is now for digital pathology adoption.3:34 - Introduction and background8:50 - Pathologists bridging the gap when communicating new technologies to other pathologists12:04 - New innovations in computation pathology and improved pathology workflow19:43 - Moments that trigger pathologists to want to go digital27:57 - Highlights of the annual digital pathology report29:11 - Why now is the time to go digital and how to remove roadblocksA forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Feb 17, 2021 • 42min
Joe Lennerz, MD, PhD | MGH
Send us a textJoe Lennerz is the Director of the Center of Integrated Diagnostics at Massachusetts General Hospital and a founding member of The Alliance for Digital Pathology. Dr. Lennerz sits down with Giovanni and David to discuss innovating in the digital pathology space, regulatory science related to digital pathology, and the initiatives of The Alliance. For more resources on Dr. Lennerz's work and how to get involved with The Alliance for Digital Pathology, please click here. Joe Lennerz introduction and background (4:38)Implementing innovative diagnostics in clinical practice (6:35)Formation of The Alliance for Digital Pathology and applying regulatory science to digital pathology innovation (20:23)Current goals and initiatives directed by The Alliance (27:29)Getting involved with The Alliance and how to connect with key stakeholders in digital pathology innovation (32:25)A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Feb 17, 2021 • 18min
Anil Parwani, MD, PhD, MBA | Ohio State University; DPA President
Send us a textDr. Anil Parwani (OSUWMC) joins the show to share why he chose to pursue a career focusing on digital pathology and gives advice to departments looking to start a digital pathology program.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Feb 17, 2021 • 13min
An Introduction To Beyond The Scope
Send us a textDr. Giovanni Lujan and Dr. David Tulman preview the concept of the podcast, discuss their backgrounds in digital pathology, and project the future of pathology.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Feb 17, 2021 • 27min
Michael Rivers | Roche; DPA Immediate Past President
Send us a textMichael Rivers just completed his term as DPA president and joins David and Giovanni to discuss the numerous initiatives in which the DPA was involved while navigating COVID-19. Plus, he gives an industry perspective on the future of the digital pathology industry.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.