

CRE Exchange: Commercial Real Estate, Property Valuations, Real Estate Analytics and Property Tax
Altus Group
The CRE Exchange is your go-to podcast for all matters of commercial real estate. It hosts cutting-edge conversations with industry experts that offer CRE professionals timely insight into market behaviors and analysis to discover new opportunities and better manage risks and costs. We discuss Commercial Real Estate, Property Valuations, Real Estate Analytics, and Property Tax.
Whether you buy or build, assist or advise, if you are a key stakeholder in the CRE space, this show is for you.
Whether you buy or build, assist or advise, if you are a key stakeholder in the CRE space, this show is for you.
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Dec 18, 2025 • 44min
Multifamily myth busting, data, and what actually matters
The biggest risk in multifamily right now isn’t oversupply, it’s misunderstanding the data. Jay Parsons joins CRE Exchange to discuss where public housing datasets fall short, why headline narratives around supply, rents, and defaults spread so quickly, and how investors should interpret conflicting signals as the market moves into its next phase. Key moments01:09 Jay Parsons' background and career02:26 Evolving perspectives in rental housing05:17 Supply and demand dynamics in multifamily housing08:40 Demographic trends and housing preferences11:36 Cost pressures and operational challenges15:09 Interest rates and multifamily market impact20:22 Affordability and nuances in rental housing23:27 Historical context of housing affordability25:00 Potential solutions to housing affordability26:14 The role of GSEs in the housing market28:51 Public vs. private data in housing37:00 Misconceptions and myths in housing40:50 Challenges in data collection and market segments Resources mentionedJay Parsons: https://jayparsons.com/The Rent Roll: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rent-roll-with-jay-parsons/id1770512765Email us: altusresearch@altusgroup.comThanks for listening to the “CRE Exchange” podcast, powered by Altus Group. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Property

Dec 11, 2025 • 41min
What's driving demand for alternative CRE sectors in 2026
Newmark’s President of Capital Markets, North America, Chad Lavender, breaks down the sector-by-sector changes that are redefining today’s capital markets. From the surge in data center demand to senior housing’s NOI outperformance and the resurgence of banks in lending, Chad share a well-defined read on where CRE capital is actually flowing, and why it matters heading into 2026. Key Moments:01:34 Chad Lavender's career journey05:08 Overview of Newmark Capital Markets07:35 Current trends in US CRE capital markets16:40 Deep dive into alternative sectors20:26 Healthcare and senior housing insights25:19 Data centers and life sciences31:39 Medical office, SFR, and BTR36:35 Alternatives on the move and market structures Resources Mentioned:Chad Lavender: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-lavender-03551bb/Newmark: https://www.nmrk.com/services/investor-solutions/capital-marketsEmail us: altusresearch@altusgroup.comThanks for listening to the “CRE Exchange” podcast, powered by Altus Group. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Property

Dec 4, 2025 • 30min
The CRE picture sharpens as delayed government data lands
The latest wave of delayed government data is finally in, and it’s helping the CRE community reestablish a clearer view of the economy heading into 2026. Join Omar and Cole as they interpret new banking, retail, PPI, and sentiment indicators, translating them into implications for capital availability, demand, and development pipelines. Key Moments:01:12 Quarterly Banking Profile insights05:49 Commercial real estate lending trends10:36 Retail sales and economic indicators13:02 Producer Price Index analysis15:07 Federal Reserve's Beige Book highlights22:42 Consumer Confidence and GDP Nowcast28:11 Upcoming data releases and final thoughts Resources Mentioned:FDIC Quarterly Banking Profile - https://www.fdic.gov/quarterly-banking-profileUS Bureau of Labor and Statistics Producer Price Index - https://www.bls.gov/pPI/US Census Bureau Advance Retail Trade Report - https://www.census.gov/retail/sales.htmlFederal Reserve Beige Book - https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/publications/beige-book-default.htmThe Conference Board US Consumer Confidence Index - https://www.conference-board.org/topics/consumer-confidence/index.cfmGDP Now - https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnowUS Commercial Real Estate Transaction Analysis – Q3 2025 - https://www.altusgroup.com/insights/us-commercial-real-estate-transaction-analysis-q3-2025Email us: altusresearch@altusgroup.comThanks for listening to the “CRE Exchange” podcast, powered by Altus Group. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Property

Nov 20, 2025 • 36min
Q3 surprise: Confirmations of a CRE turnaround?
Our hosts, Omar Eltorai and Cole Perry, unpack an unexpectedly strong Q3 2025, one that defied seasonal norms and signaled potential momentum building across US commercial real estate. They break down what drove transaction growth, why large deals may have returned, and how pricing trends varied across sectors and major metros. Tune into this data-rich recap for valuable context heading into year-end.Key Moments:00:50 Overview of Q3 2025 and market environment01:28 Macroeconomic trends and Federal Reserve actions04:44 Credit and equity market performance09:13 US CRE investment and transaction market in Q311:54 Detailed analysis of CRE pricing and pacing trends20:20 Geographic differences in CRE market performance25:46 Surprising trends and insights from Q3 dataResources Mentioned:Q3 2025 US CRE Investment and Transactions Quarterly report - https://www.altusgroup.com/featured-insights/cre-transactions/Email us: altusresearch@altusgroup.comThanks for listening to the “CRE Exchange” podcast, powered by Altus Group. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Property

Nov 13, 2025 • 45min
Q3 CRE earnings: Trends across lenders, REITs and brokers
This discussion dives into trends across commercial real estate, highlighting a cautious reopening of credit among lenders. Retail REITs are thriving with high occupancy rates, while the office sector is grappling with post-pandemic leasing challenges. Industrial REITs see signs of demand stabilization, and multifamily markets show resilience despite looming supply issues. There's buzz around data centers driven by AI needs, and brokerages report strong leasing activity as capital flows back into CRE, indicating a measured recovery and growing optimism.

Oct 30, 2025 • 45min
Never bet against New York City: Bob Knakal talks markets, policy, and opportunity
Legendary New York broker Bob Knakal shares lessons from more than four decades shaping the city’s investment landscape. He discusses the founding of Massey Knakal, the power of specialization, and how zoning and policy continue to define opportunity. Knakal also explains why he’s integrating AI and data analysis into his brokerage, and why, despite political headwinds, he still believes you should never bet against New York. Key Moments:01:01 Meet Bob Knakal03:24 The early days of Massey Knakal04:50 Lessons learned and keys to success08:14 The importance of market expertise11:26 Founding BK Real Estate Advisors13:14 Specialization and market changes17:37 AI and technology in real estate24:15 The unique challenges of the New York market26:20 Current market cycles and trends29:57 Impact of political changes on housing32:42 Proposed solutions for housing issues38:35 Future of New York real estate Resources Mentioned:Bob Knakal - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobknakal/BKREA - https://www.bkrea.com/485-x Program - https://www.nyc.gov/site/hpd/services-and-information/tax-incentives-485-x.pageMajor Capital Improvement program - https://www.nyc.gov/site/finance/property/landlords-mci.pageIndividual Apartment Improvement program - https://hcr.ny.gov/apartment-iai-and-building-mci-improvementsEmail us: altusresearch@altusgroup.comThanks for listening to the “CRE Exchange” podcast, powered by Altus Group. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Property

Oct 23, 2025 • 46min
Hello uncertainty, my old friend, we're back to cautious optimism again
What if the economy could sing? The CRE Exchange team explores what the Fed’s Beige Book, homebuilder sentiment, and recent banking data reveal about the broader economy, and how those trends ripple through commercial real estate. Our hosts, Omar Eltorai and Cole Perry, then turn to Peter Norman, Altus Group’s VP and Economic Strategist, for a deep dive into Canadian economic and CRE trends. Key Moments:01:34 Diving into the Fed Beige Book02:21 Labor market and employment trends03:30 Consumer spending and manufacturing Insights07:25 Home Builder Confidence Index10:43 Large Bank Credit Card and Mortgage Report13:57 Manufacturing Business Outlook Survey16:31 Non-Manufacturing Business Outlook Survey20:52 Canadian CRE trends with Peter Norman43:19 Upcoming eventsResources Mentioned:Peter Norman – https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-norman-20637043/2025 Canada State of the Market webinar – https://www.altusgroup.com/webinars/canada-state-of-the-market/Federal Reserve Beige Book - https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/publications/beige-book-default.htmNAHB/Wells Fargo Housing Market Index - https://www.nahb.org/news-and-economics/housing-economics/indices/housing-market-indexISM Manufacturing PMI - https://www.ismworld.org/supply-management-news-and-reports/reports/ism-pmi-reports/pmi/september/Philadelphia Fed Large Bank Credit Card and Mortgage Data - https://www.philadelphiafed.org/surveys-and-data/large-bank-credit-card-and-mortgage-dataPhiladelphia Fed Manufacturing Business Outlook Survey - https://www.philadelphiafed.org/surveys-and-data/regionaleconomy/manufacturing/business-outlook-surveyPhiladelphia Fed Nonmanufacturing Business Outlook Survey - https://www.philadelphiafed.org/surveys-and-data/regionaleconomy/nonmanufacturing/business-outlook-surveyEmail us: altusresearch@altusgroup.comThanks for listening to the “CRE Exchange” podcast, powered by Altus Group. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Property

Oct 16, 2025 • 43min
Tracking the economy and CRE through a government data blackout
Andrew Pabon, a director at Altus Group specializing in commercial real estate debt, joins to discuss the impact of a federal data slowdown on the economy and CRE market. He highlights alternative indicators for assessing labor markets and consumer behavior. Pabon delves into current trends in CRE credit, noting a resurgence in lender interest and transaction activity. He also shares insights on market liquidity across property types, emphasizing the potential for future fixed-rate deals amidst a financing landscape that can shift quickly.

Oct 9, 2025 • 51min
Why “hometown” markets are delivering real returns in retail
Retail’s comeback isn’t new news, but its investment potential is still underestimated. In this episode, RockStep Capital’s President, Andy Weiner, joins Omar Eltorai and Cole Perry to shed light on why the most rational capital in CRE is rotating toward shopping centers and “hometown” markets.From positive leverage dynamics to the structural limits on new supply, Andy explains how disciplined operators are capturing double-digit yields while strengthening the communities they invest in. For investors, developers, and lenders, it’s a revealing look at where the next durable returns may come from. Key Moments:01:34 Meet Andy Wiener of Rock Step Capital03:38 The birth of Rock Step Capital05:21 Retail strategy and store metrics07:29 Improving communities through retail10:39 The Rock Steps: Company culture and values16:51 Evolution of Rock Step Capital20:52 Hometown focus and investment strategy22:21 Community involvement and local partnerships24:55 Investment strategies and fund structure27:00 Retail Renaissance and e-commerce integration30:24 Supply and demand dynamics in retail41:38 Public-private partnerships and redevelopment45:37 Exit strategies and market insights46:44 Chick-fil-A fandom and personal insights Resources Mentioned:Andy Weiner - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-weiner/RockStep Capital - https://rockstep.com/The RockStep way - https://rockstep.com/company/rockstep-wayEmail us: altusresearch@altusgroup.comThanks for listening to the “CRE Exchange” podcast, powered by Altus Group. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Property

Oct 2, 2025 • 43min
From jobs to housing to the human edge in CRE
From a 20.5% surge in new home sales and persistent affordability challenges in the existing market, to rising inflation, consumer sentiment drops, and labor market paradoxes, our hosts Omar Eltorai and Cole Perry explore how these factors are influencing CRE demand and investment strategy.Also, special guest Dan Kudrik, Senior Director at Altus, adds his perspective on the human edge in real estate, and highlights how valuation, residual values, and transparency are evolving in the US market.Key moments01:19 Latest Housing Market Data06:29 Consumer spending and inflation insights15:07 GDP and corporate profits analysis18:47 Labor market trends21:59 Special Guest: Dan Kudrik on human capital, valuations, and residual valuesResources mentionedNew Home Sales: https://www.census.gov/construction/nrs/index.html Existing home sales: https://www.nar.realtor/research-and-statistics/housing-statistics/existing-home-sales PCE: https://www.bea.gov/data/personal-consumption-expenditures-price-index GDP: https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gross-domestic-product University of Michigan’s Consumer Sentiment Index: https://www.sca.isr.umich.edu/ JOLTS: https://www.bls.gov/jlt/ Dan Kudrik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielkudrik/ Email us: altusresearch@altusgroup.com Thanks for listening to the “CRE Exchange” podcast, powered by Altus Group. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Property


