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In 1886 LDS Prophet and Church President John Taylor documented a Revelation whereby Jesus Christ himself informed Taylor that Polygamy (The New and Everlasting Covenant) can and will NEVER be done away. Only to have the Church later disavow and distance themselves from Polygamy. On this Episode Bill Reel and RFM will help us understand the context of the 1886 Revelation/Vision, How the Church avoided dealing with Taylor’s Documented Revelation, How Apologists deal with it today, and lastly what it demonstrates about the integrity and honesty of the Church and its leaders around this event. RESOURCES: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1886_Revelation https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/John-W.-Taylor-Trial.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1886_Revelation#/media/File:1886_Revelation.jpg https://rsc.byu.edu/champion-liberty-john-taylor/john-revelator-written-revelations-john-taylor (Notice which is missing) https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Mormonism_and_polygamy/John_Taylor https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2016/03/202-replay-life-trial-john-w-taylor/ https://www.mormonwiki.com/John_W._Taylor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_W._Taylor_(Mormon) http://www.gapages.com/taylojw1.htm https://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/13/correlation-an-uncorrelated-history-part-4-john-w-taylor-excommunicated/ https://mormonpolygamydocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/1886-Revelation-article.pdf https://www.scribd.com/document/23201016/1886-Priesthood-Succesion https://gospeltangents.com/2020/04/taylors-1886-revelation/ https://rsc.byu.edu/champion-liberty-john-taylor/john-revelator-written-revelations-john-taylor#_edn88 Mismanaging God – Book The post Mormonism LIVE: 042: Revelation, Excommunications, Lies & Obfuscations: The 1886 John Taylor Divination appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Mormonism LIVE!: 041: Solving the LDS Church Homosexuality Issue Elder Holland recently explained ““I and many of my Brethren have spent more time and shed more tears on this subject than we could ever adequately convey to you this morning, or any morning. We have spent hours discussing what the doctrine of the Church can and cannot provide the individuals and families struggling over this difficult issue. So, it is with scar tissue of our own that we are trying to avoid — and hope all will try to avoid — language, symbols and situations that are more divisive than unifying at the very time we want to show love for all of God’s children.” In spite of being Prophets, Seers, and Revelators; He seemingly also is acknowledging that Jesus isn’t coming into the room and they are trying to figure it out without him. So Radio Free Mormon and Bill Reel decide to be of assistance and offer solutions to the problem they are struggling to get an answer for. So on this episode, we will give these 15 men the theological and historical and doctrinal space to resolve this issue once and for all. RESOURCES: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/elder-jeffrey-r-holland-2021-byu-university-conference https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/kingdoms-of-glory?lang=eng https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2019/10/17oaks?lang=eng https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2019/10/17oaks?lang=eng https://radiofreemormon.org/2017/03/extra-radio-free-mormon-amazing-contradicting-joseph-smith/ https://radiofreemormon.org/2017/12/radio-free-mormon-022-ghost-homophobias-past/ The post Mormonism LIVE!: 041: Solving the LDS Church Homosexuality Issue appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Since its inception in 1830 LDS Leaders have been consistent at one thing. While lip service is given to being a Church that has Prophets, Seers, and Revelators who claim to speak for God and give direction from on high, these men seem to always be behind the times, stating outdated false misconceptions and teaching false and at times harmful rhetoric. No where can this be more easily recognized than on the LGBT issue. But….. sadly It doesn’t stop there. RESOURCES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg36L1989Ss&ab_channel=BYUSpeeches https://www.dropbox.com/s/ay5dk9mky0p0sm7/OnTheRecord7-27.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/y9z40tx8wd9rt9m/homosexuality.pdf?dl=0 https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/interview-oaks-wickman-same-gender-attraction https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/same-sex-attraction?lang=eng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/explaining-religious-freedom-and-lgbt-rights The post Mormonism LIVE! 040: Symphony Of LGBT Mis-Direction & Mr. Holland Dopus appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

In this weeks episode of Mormonism LIVE, RFM and Bill Reel delve into some debauchery among past Mission Presidents. What they find is a common theme creating a pattern of bad behavior learning once again that unethical behavior can be made righteous within Mormonism. RESOURCES: https://byteline.blogspot.com/2007/09/sects-and-violence-part-5-continued.html https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V21N03_29.pdf https://www.exmormon.org/d6/drupal/France-and-Polygamous-Mormon-Missionaries https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/8fbs7u/1980s_australia_sydney_mission_prez_was_aspiring/ https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/dr-dave-christian-on-epistemology-and-the-polygamous-mission-president/ https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/deseretnews/name/orson-wright-obituary?pid=186032306 https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/8f98mh/philander_knox_smartt_the_excommunicated_puerto/ https://voices.uchicago.edu/religionculture/2018/05/20/1522/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/04/26/the-case-of-puerto-rico-when-the-mormon-church-promptly-removed-a-mission-president-who-deceived-and-victimized-young-female-missionaries/ https://universe.byu.edu/2018/04/27/mormon-church-kicks-out-man-who-supervised-young-women/ The post Mormonism LIVE: 039: When Mission Presidents Behave Badly appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

In Mormonism the very elite of membership including Stake Presidents, Mission Presidents, along with Seventies and the top 15 along with all their wives receive a secret ritual that confers to them that their “Calling and Election” has been made sure. What is this ritual? What do we know about it? How has the church framed it in their theology? and why do only a select few receive it? This and more on this week’s episode. RESOURCES:   https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V16N01_12.pdf https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmyldshistory.blogspot.com%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0YbteylqfjyBp3P_E8vU6c3WdGzGrCsOldzbCteN1jHdANClh8-TNfGPQ&h=AT0n2SeXpCqsisJ4BybEBV99LV5oOGWdD4p1HtYeYqON6tSYCRjkkxg7aHU-9f2gtlBVUUcy0PkhgbhWw6H5-T9wuBaTiuWCo1PeaxDh-KypeEmBY6CoYcW_Kl-seflSHqc   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_anointing   https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/doctrines-of-the-gospel/chapter-19?lang=eng Do not attempt in any way to discuss or answer questions about the second anointing.   www.mormonstories.org/podcast/tom-phillips-and-the-second-anointing/   http://www.mormonthink.com/glossary/secondendowment.htm   https://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon508.htm   http://archives.lib.byu.edu/repositories/14/archival_objects/255732   http://academickids.com/encyclopedia/index.php/Second_Anointing   http://www.fact-index.com/s/se/second_anointing.html https://www.lds-mormon.com/2danointing-shtml/   https://blog.mrm.org/2013/01/the-second-anointing-of-modern-day-mormonism/ https://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Calling_and_Election https://www.jstor.org/stable/44368772 The post Mormonism LIVE: 038: The Second Anointing appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Today Bill and RFM will look into events that the Church and/or its Leaders were involved in that seem to have the “appearance of Evil”. From Elder Ballard’s time selling cars to buying Valley Music Hall to becoming an Apostle of the Lord, to what appeared to be a Hostile Takeover by Quentin Cook of a Hospital in California, to what appears to be A giant favor done by Kirton and McConkie towards Thomas Monson and his family. We may touch on a few others as well….. you never know !!! All of these stories involve allegations and viewers and listeners should make up their own mind as to what the data seems to imply. We also welcome the individuals involved as well as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to contribute to a more informed story RESOURCES FOR BALLARD SECTION en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Russell_Ballard wheatandtares.org/2016/08/22/dunn-and-other-bad-business-deals/ www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/03/elder-m-russell-ballard-true-to-the-faith?lang=eng historyofmormonism.com/2008/07/08/m_russell_ballard/ familypedia.wikia.org/wiki/Melvin_Russell_Ballard_(1928) churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/m-russell-ballard?lang=eng RESOURCES FOR COOK SECTION caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1464984.html dropbox.com/s/c8n69kc96rx32th/new-l-d-s-apostle-quentin-l2026.pdf?dl=0 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_L._Cook exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1503537 exploringmormonism.com/quenton-l-cook-and-fraud/ mormoncurtain.infymus.com/topic_quentinlcook.html albionmonitor.com/community/ch-marin.html sfweekly.com/news/sutters-empire-strikes-back/ RESOURCES FOR MONSON JR SECTION groups.google.com/g/alt.religion.mormon/c/6quMKuVd8RY?hl=ja&pli=1#0910f00c9d7d7efb lawyers.findlaw.com/profile/view/1825333_1 www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/8akrof/thomas_l_monson_sexual_harassment_coverup/ www.zoominfo.com/p/Thomas-Monson/52373910 The post Mormonism LIVE: 036: Hostile Takeovers, Bailouts, & Other Backroom Deals appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

In this week’s episode of Mormonism Live, we will investigate the integrity of the not only the President of the Church but also the integrity of the Quorum of the 12. Once one grasps the systemic issue within LDS Leadership, One’s trust in them becomes anything other guaranteed. RESOURCES: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/video/2016-01-1000-worldwide-devotional-january-2016?lang=eng 45:35 – 46:38 Time Stamp https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/04/10/mormon-land-lds-churchs/ 4:47 – 5:46 Time Stamp In his memoirs, An Abundant Life, Elder Hugh B. Brown explained “the Apostolic Charge” that every apostle is apparently given upon admittance to the Q12. It reads as follows: “Always be willing to subjugate his own thoughts and accept the majority opinion not only to vote for it but to act as though it were his own original opinion after it has been approved by the majority of the council of the twelve and the First Presidency.” The post Mormonism LIVE: 035: Will The Real Apostle Please Stand Up ! appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

This weeks episode will feature RFM and Bill Reel unveiling a new show under the Mormonism Discussion Inc. umbrella and some reflection on last weeks episode regarding Nelson’s flight and we touch on the passing of Robert Ritner and spend the last half of the Show doing an AMA. RESOURCES: https://backyardprofessor.org/ http://fornspollfira.blogspot.com/2021/07/robert-kreich-ritner-jr-1953-2021.html https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/general-conference-saturday-evening-session-update The post Mormonism LIVE: 034: Ask Us Almost Anything & More appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Today We explore a story President Nelson has told for years about a flight he was on in the 1970’s. He reports the plane’s engine exploding, the wing catching fire, a death spiral by the plane, the chaos aboard, and the plane’s landing in a farmer’s field. This story had many questioning the truthfulness of his account but there was never a smoking gun to get to the truth of the matter………. until now. WHERE PRESIDENT NELSON OR OTHERS HAVE TOLD THE STORYhttps://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1992/05/doors-of-death?lang=enghttps://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-nelson-argentina-2019https://www.deseret.com/faith/2021/3/28/22355277/president-nelson-invites-all-to-feel-the-peace-and-hope-of-easter-by-focusing-on-the-savior https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=EMwKxmTLaCs&ab_channel=TheChurchofJesusChristofLatter-daySaints Russell M. Nelson, From Heart to Heart: An Autobiography (Salt Lake City: Nelson, 1979) Russell M. Nelson: Father, Surgeon, Apostle – Spencer J Condie: Author https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/friend/1994/06/most-important?lang=eng Russell M. Nelson, The Gateway We Call Death (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1995)https://www.thechurchnews.com/archives/2004-09-18/gospel-principles-vital-to-correct-living-94995 https://www.deseret.com/2006/4/15/19948411/death-is-part-of-life-ex-surgeon-says https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2018-09-03/president-nelson-delivers-historic-message-to-dominican-latter-day-saints-in-spanish-8931 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/president-nelson-shares-5-lessons-life-has-taught-me-with-49000-in-safeco-field?lang=eng https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2018-10-26/president-nelson-finds-church-thriving-in-uruguay-thanks-to-multiple-generations-of-members-missionaries-156122 https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-nelson-argentina-2019THE CLAIMS PRESIDENT NELSON HAS MADE THAT WERE RED FLAGS1.) One Engine on a small Two Engine plane Exploded.2.) Said Engine caught fire.3.) In the Explosion flammable material was spread to the plane and the plane itself was on fire.4.) The plane did a “Death Spiral” which extinguished the fire5.) The Pilot “turned on the Other Engine”6.) The plane landed in a “Farmer’s Field”THE FACTS THAT ALLOWED OTHERS TO NARROW WHAT TO LOOK FOR 1.) The Date of the flight was reported as November 12, 1976 2.) He was flying from SLC to St. George to attend the inauguration of W. Rolfe Kerr as the president of Dixie College. 3.) Anytime a plane incurs a malfunction or there is a mechanical flight issue or pilot error the Law requires such to be recorded. The Explosion would necessitate a publicly available recorded log report. The plane on fire would necessitate a publicly available recorded log report. The Death Spiral would necessitate a publicly available recorded log report. The landing in a Farmer’s Field would necessitate a publicly available recorded log report.IF THE STORY OCCURRED THE WAY PRESIDENT NELSON HAS REPORTED, THERE ABSOLUTELY WOULD BE A REPORT THAT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. MOST FABRICATIONS HINGE ON SOME GRAIN OF TRUTH, SO MANY IN THE POST-MORMON COMMUNITY WENT INTO DETECTIVE MODE.THE FLIGHT REPORT FOR THIS FLIGHT WAS FINALLY LOCATED (IT WAS DIFFICULT TO FIND DUE TO THE MUNDANE ISSUES INCURRED THAT SEEMINGLY CONTRADICT NELSON’S STORY )https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/wNa3AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA1090&dq=skywest+incidents+19761.) Engine never exploded and continued to run though rough2.) There was no Engine Fire.3.) The Plane itself was never on fire4.) The Other Engine was never off4.) The plane made a “Precautionary landing at the airport in Delta Utah and not a farmer’s field5.) There are other smaller issues with number of passengers, length of flight, cutting fuel line to both engines, and the date of the flight but we grant some benefit of the doubt for distorted memory. If the Church or its defenders want to claim the conclusion that this flight one day earlier is NOT the flight President Nelson is speaking about, then the burden of proof is on them to provide the evidence. To claim there was another “SKY WEST” flight also going from SLC TO SAINT GEORGE” that had “WORSE ISSUES” “ONE DAY LATER”, then provide the “MANDATORY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FLIGHT REPORT” of said flight. Without such, said conclusion by the defenders would require more conjecture and allowances.The Plane believed to be the One Nelson rode that day The post Mormonism LIVE: 033: President Nelson’s Flight of Death appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

We sit down with Lindsay Hansen Park, host of “The Year of Polygamy” podcast and discuss the most troubling aspects of Joseph Smith’s polygamy and LDS Polygamy at large. Lucy Walker, the Partridge Sisters, Fanny Alger, Helen Mar Kimball, and others. RESOURCES:https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2017/12/premium-lucy-walker-spiritual-experiences/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2019/08/mormon-discussion-342-nancy-rigdon-and-the-happiness-letter/ mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2020/08/gospel-topic-essays-011-plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo/ http://wivesofjosephsmith.org/2021-EmilyandElizaPartridge.htm Also don’t forget to support Sunstone by purchasing the magazine or better yet register and attend the Sunstone Symposium by clicking this link https://sunstonemagazine.com/registration/ Lindsay Hansen Park is an American Mormon feminist blogger, podcaster, and the Executive Director for the Salt Lake City-based non-profit Sunstone Education Foundation. She blogs for Feminist Mormon Housewives (FMH) about women’s issues inside and outside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She is the main voice behind the Year of Polygamy podcast. Her work and voice have been referenced in The Wall Street Journal, The Salt Lake Tribune’s Trib Talk, Salt Lake City Weekly, The Guardian and Quartz.     The post Mormonism LIVE: 032: Lindsay Hansen Park – Troubling Aspects of Joseph Smith’s Polygamy appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.