
Product People Podcast
Product People is a Product Management community and Interim Product Management service. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. In this show, you'll find interviews and talks from the most inspiring Product Leaders as well as case studies and sessions with our in-house experts. Learn more about us: https://www.getproductpeople.com/ getproductpeople.substack.com
Latest episodes

Nov 13, 2023 • 25min
Sona Dagesyan | Empowering product teams | ep.15
In this enlightening episode of the Product People Podcast, host Mirela Mus engages in a dynamic conversation with Sona Dagesyan, delving into the intricacies of empowering product teams. Sona, a seasoned expert in product management, shares invaluable insights on fostering a collaborative and empowered environment within product teams. Whether you're a seasoned product manager or just starting in the field, this episode offers a wealth of wisdom for anyone looking to elevate their team's performance and impact.About us:Product Management community and Interim Product Management services. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. We earn money with Interim product management services for parent leaves or when hiring is slow. We manage the unglamorous hands-on work of a Product Manager/Owner, Product Ops, or Product Leader on an interim basis (3+ months). We onboard fast, align teams and deliver outcomes.Join us here too:🤩 Community Chat on Telegram https://t.me/getproductpeople📆 Upcoming events on MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/productpeople/🎥 Talk Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductPeopleManagement📌 Updates and Product Opportunities LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/getproductpeople📝 Blog articles on Medium https://medium.com/getproductpeople📚 Our Newsletter: https://getproductpeople.substack.com/🎏 Alternative locations:Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getproductpeopleTwitch https://www.twitch.tv/productpeopleDiscord https://discord.gg/e4xkuwMPbK This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit getproductpeople.substack.com

Oct 31, 2023 • 33min
Dr. Mario Lenz | Skepticism on Product-Led Growth | ep.14
In this episode of the Product People Podcast, Mirela Mus (Founder & CPO of Product People) interviews Dr. Mario Lenz about Skepticism in Product-Led Growth. They discuss the definition and value of PLG, the blindspots of relying on just the product, and the drivers and why PLG has become so trendy nowadays.About us:Product Management community and Interim Product Management services. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. We earn money with Interim product management services for parent leaves or when hiring is slow. We manage the unglamorous hands-on work of a Product Manager/Owner, Product Ops, or Product Leader on an interim basis (3+ months). We onboard fast, align teams and deliver outcomes.Join us here too:🤩 Community Chat on Telegram https://t.me/getproductpeople📆 Upcoming events on MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/productpeople/🎥 Talk Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductPeopleManagement📌 Updates and Product Opportunities LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/getproductpeople📝 Blog articles on Medium https://medium.com/getproductpeople📰 Our Newsletter: https://getproductpeople.substack.com/🎏 Alternative locations:Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getproductpeopleTwitch https://www.twitch.tv/productpeopleDiscord https://discord.gg/e4xkuwMPbK This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit getproductpeople.substack.com

Jul 10, 2023 • 32min
Alex Bahlk | Value creation and value capturing | ep.13
In this episode of the Product People Podcast, João Moita interviews Alex Bahlk, Director of Product at Product People. They discuss the value equation, looking at competition and differentiation, exploring customer willingness to pay, pricing influence on perceived value, strengthening pricing power, prioritization, and the importance of boilerplate features. They also talk about pricing and the involvement of product managers in financial matters.About us:Product Management community and Interim Product Management services. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. We earn money with Interim product management services for parent leaves or when hiring is slow. We manage the unglamorous hands-on work of a Product Manager/Owner, Product Ops, or Product Leader on an interim basis (3+ months). We onboard fast, align teams, and deliver outcomes.Join us here too:🤩 Community Chat on Telegram https://t.me/getproductpeople📆 Upcoming events on MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/productpeople/🎥 Talk Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductPeopleManagement📌 Updates and Product Opportunities LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/getproductpeople📝 Blog articles on Medium https://medium.com/getproductpeople🎏 Alternative locations:Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getproductpeopleTwitch https://www.twitch.tv/productpeopleDiscord https://discord.gg/e4xkuwMPbKTimestamps:(4:50) Value equation(6:22) Looking at the competition and differentiation(10:16) Exploring customer's willingness to pay(13:36) Pricing influence on perceived value(16:01) Strengthening your pricing power(18:08) Prioritization(19:48) Boilerplate features that are necessary(21:50) Pricing as high as possible(24:14) PMs involvement in financial matters This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit getproductpeople.substack.com

Jun 12, 2023 • 35min
Radhika Dutt | Radical Product Thinking | ep.12
In this episode of the Product People Podcast, host João Moita interviews Radhika Dutt, an entrepreneur and product expert with an engineering background from MIT. Radhika shares her insights on the problem with sales-led or engineering-led approaches to product development and emphasizes the importance of a vision-driven approach. She introduces her Radical Product Thinking framework, which helps companies successfully apply this mindset globally. Radhika explains that a vision doesn't always need to be sexy and discusses the RDCL Strategy, highlighting the need for prioritization that balances both vision and survival. The conversation also delves into the ethical decision-making responsibilities of product professionals and concludes with practical advice on applying Radical Product Thinking as an individual contributor.About us:Product Management community and Interim Product Management services. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. We earn money with Interim product management services for parent leaves or when hiring is slow. We manage the unglamorous hands-on work of a Product Manager/Owner, Product Ops, or Product Leader on an interim basis (3+ months). We onboard fast, align teams, and deliver outcomes.Join us here too:🤩 Community Chat on Telegram https://t.me/getproductpeople📆 Upcoming events on MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/productpeople/🎥 Talk Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductPeopleManagement📌 Updates and Product Opportunities LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/getproductpeople📝 Blog articles on Medium https://medium.com/getproductpeople🎏 Alternative locations:Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getproductpeopleTwitch https://www.twitch.tv/productpeopleDiscord https://discord.gg/e4xkuwMPbKTimestamps:(0:50) Radhika's background(3:47) Problem with sales-led or engineering-led approach(7:03) Vision-driven approach(9:52) Radical Product Thinking framework(13:27) A vision doesn't need to be sexy(17:55) RDCL Strategy(19:57) Prioritization balancing vision and survival(24:39) Ethical decision making as product professionals(31:40) Applying Radical Product Thinking as an IC This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit getproductpeople.substack.com

May 29, 2023 • 37min
Aakash Gupta | Growth Product Management | ep.11
In this episode of the Product People Podcast, Joao Moita interviews Aakash Gupta, a Product Growth expert with over 15 years experience in the field and the one of the most influencial Product voices on LinkedIn. Aakash shares his career highlights and discusses the importance of narrowing versus broadening one's career focus. He also provides insights on building strong relationships without succumbing to people-pleasing tendencies. Aakash delves into his experience managing an industry-defining product launch and outlines four definitions of Product Growth. The conversation then delves into growth metrics, including both long-term and short-term considerations. Aakash advises against prioritizing personal branding at the moment and concludes the episode by discussing the potential impact of AI for Product Managers.About us:Product Management community and Interim Product Management services. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. We earn money with Interim product management services for parent leaves or when hiring is slow. We manage the unglamorous hands-on work of a Product Manager/Owner, Product Ops, or Product Leader on an interim basis (3+ months). We onboard fast, align teams, and deliver outcomes.Join us here too:🤩 Community Chat on Telegram https://t.me/getproductpeople📆 Upcoming events on MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/productpeople/🎥 Talk Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductPeopleManagement📌 Updates and Product Opportunities LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/getproductpeople📝 Blog articles on Medium https://medium.com/getproductpeople🎏 Alternative locations:Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getproductpeopleTwitch https://www.twitch.tv/productpeopleDiscord https://discord.gg/e4xkuwMPbKTimestamps:(1:51) Aakash career highlights(3.25) Narrowing vs broadening your career(7:54) Build strong relationships without being a people pleaser(9:38) Managing an industry-defining product launch(15:47) Four definitions of Product Growth(21:54) Growth metrics(25:28) Long term metrics, short term shipping(29:14) Don't focus on building a personal brand right now(32:10) AI for Product Managers This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit getproductpeople.substack.com

May 15, 2023 • 34min
Teresa Torres | Implementing continuous discovery | ep.10
In this episode of the Product People Podcast, hosted by Joao Moita, Teresa Torres dives into the concept of continuous discovery habits. She highlights the challenges that arise when separating discovery and delivery in product development, emphasizes the importance of involving the entire team in the discovery process and shares insights on stable vs unstable research findings. Organizational change and the role of ICs in implementing continuous discovery in an organization is also discussed. Furthermore, she explores the opportunity solution tree framework and how it connects to assumption testing. The podcast concludes with Teresa reflecting on her career path and the differences between the US and European Product scene.About us:Product Management community and Interim Product Management services. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. We earn money with Interim product management services for parent leaves or when hiring is slow. We manage the unglamorous hands-on work of a Product Manager/Owner, Product Ops, or Product Leader on an interim basis (3+ months). We onboard fast, align teams, and deliver outcomes.Join us here too:🤩 Community Chat on Telegram https://t.me/getproductpeople📆 Upcoming events on MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/productpeople/🎥 Talk Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductPeopleManagement📌 Updates and Product Opportunities LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/getproductpeople📝 Blog articles on Medium https://medium.com/getproductpeople🎏 Alternative locations:Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getproductpeopleTwitch https://www.twitch.tv/productpeopleDiscord https://discord.gg/e4xkuwMPbKTimestamps:(1:31) Continuous Discovery Habits(3:45) Problems with splitting discovery and delivery(5:31) Setup of the product trio(7:53) Involving the whole team in discovery(10:10) Stable research insights(12:09) Opportunity solution tree(16:46) Assumption testing(20:24) Implementing continuous discovery at an organization(22:47) Developing discovery habits as an IC(24:46) Organizational change(27:28) European eagerness to learn(29:45) Teresa's career path This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit getproductpeople.substack.com

May 1, 2023 • 35min
Melissa Perri | Optimizing Product Management | ep.09
In this episode of Product People Podcast, João Moita interviews Melissa Perri, author of "Escaping the build trap" and host of the Product Thinking podcast. They discuss a variety of topics related to product management, including diversity in the field, the challenges of escaping the build trap, and the importance of thinking about problems rather than solutions. They also delve into the topic of aligning incentives with company outcomes, the difference between strategy and plans, and the differences between product management in Europe and the US. Additionally, they cover the topic of product operations, including when to create a product ops function and how to standardize processes as a starting point. Finally, they talk about Melissa's next career steps and offer advice for those looking to move from a PM to a product leader role.About us:Product Management community and Interim Product Management services. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. We earn money with Interim product management services for parent leaves or when hiring is slow. We manage the unglamorous hands-on work of a Product Manager/Owner, Product Ops, or Product Leader on an interim basis (3+ months). We onboard fast, align teams, and deliver outcomes.Join us here too:🤩 Community Chat on Telegram https://t.me/getproductpeople📆 Upcoming events on MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/productpeople/🎥 Talk Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductPeopleManagement📌 Updates and Product Opportunities LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/getproductpeople📝 Blog articles on Medium https://medium.com/getproductpeople🎏 Alternative locations:Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getproductpeopleTwitch https://www.twitch.tv/productpeopleDiscord https://discord.gg/e4xkuwMPbKTimestamps:(1:10) Diversity in Product(5:35) Escaping the build trap(9:31) Thinking about problems instead of solutions(12:50) Aligning incentives with company outcomes(15:17) Difference between strategy and plans(19:37) Differences between Europe and US(23:59) What is Product Operations(25:31) When to create the Product Ops function(28:49) Standardising processes as a starting point(30:47) Melissa’s next career steps(32:48) Advice to move from PM to Product Leader This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit getproductpeople.substack.com

Apr 10, 2023 • 32min
Mirela Mus | How PLG can supercharge your organization | ep.08
In this episode of the Product People Podcast, Mirela Mus, Founder and CPO at Product People, talks about how Product Led Growth (PLG) can supercharge your organization. Mirela discusses what PLG is, specific PLG tactics, and the impact of PLG on marketing and sales. She also provides examples of product-led companies and shares tips on how to apply PLG. Mirela also talks about how to learn PLG as a PM, convincing C-level to move into PLG, and implementing PLG in compliance-heavy enterprises.About us:Product Management community and Interim Product Management services. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. We earn money with Interim product management services for parent leaves or when hiring is slow. We manage the unglamorous hands-on work of a Product Manager/Owner, Product Ops, or Product Leader on an interim basis (3+ months). We onboard fast, align teams, and deliver outcomes.Join us here too:🤩 Community Chat on Telegram https://t.me/getproductpeople📆 Upcoming events on MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/productpeople/🎥 Talk Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductPeopleManagement📌 Updates and Product Opportunities LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/getproductpeople📝 Blog articles on Medium https://medium.com/getproductpeople🎏 Alternative locations:Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getproductpeopleTwitch https://www.twitch.tv/productpeopleDiscord https://discord.gg/e4xkuwMPbKTimestamps:(1:32) What is Product Led Growth(3:01) From top-down to bottom-up decisions within B2B(5:15) Specific PLG tactics(8:27) PLG impact on Marketing(10:09) PLG impact on Sales(12:21) Examples of product-led companies(14:53) Using incentives to foster a product-led culture(17:59) PLG is a tactic for after PMF(18:55) Recap of main points on how to apply PLG(20:27) How to learn PLG as a PM(22:25) Convincing C-level to move into PLG(24:44) Implementing PLG in compliance-heavy enterprises(27:11) PLG implementation examples in Europe(29:50) Objectives for the sales team This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit getproductpeople.substack.com

Apr 3, 2023 • 30min
Roman Pichler | Building a Strategy to enable innovation | ep.07
In this episode of the Product People Podcast (recorded live on April 5, 2022), Mirela talks with Roman Pichler, the author of “Strategize”. They discuss various topics such as managing a product portfolio, prioritizing outcomes for a roadmap, dealing with stakeholders, and building a product strategy. They also touch on the importance of having a strategy before creating a roadmap and adapting strategies for poorly performing products. Pichler shares insights on how to prioritize technical improvements for future developments and how to talk with users while dealing with risks.About us:Product Management community and Interim Product Management services. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. We earn money with Interim product management services for parent leaves or when hiring is slow. We manage the unglamorous hands-on work of a Product Manager/Owner, Product Ops, or Product Leader on an interim basis (3+ months). We onboard fast, align teams, and deliver outcomes.Join us here too:🤩 Community Chat on Telegram https://t.me/getproductpeople📆 Upcoming events on MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/productpeople/🎥 Talk Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductPeopleManagement📌 Updates and Product Opportunities LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/getproductpeople📝 Blog articles on Medium https://medium.com/getproductpeople🎏 Alternative locations:Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getproductpeopleTwitch https://www.twitch.tv/productpeopleDiscord https://discord.gg/e4xkuwMPbKTimestamps:(1:32) Managing a product portfolio(4:23) Cash cows and core innovations(5:38) Prioritization for an outcome-based roadmap(8:12) Prioritizing technical improvements to enable future developments(9:44) Managing stakeholders away from feature-based roadmaps(14:16) Dealing with people as a PM(18:30) Having a strategy before creating a roadmap(20:53) Adapting your strategy for a poorly performing product(24:41) How to build your Product strategy(27:34) Talking with users and dealing with risk This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit getproductpeople.substack.com

Mar 27, 2023 • 31min
Colleen Graneto | Creating an experimentation culture | ep.06
In this episode of the Product People Podcast (recorded live on June 6th, 2022), host João Melo speaks with Colleen Graneto, former Product Manager at Airbnb, about her experiences with experimentation in product, and how to create an experimentation culture. They discuss the importance of doing things that don't scale, the value of small increments and de-risking big bets, and the various tactics to test desirability such as the Wizard of Oz and concierge methods. They also touch on the beginner's mindset and ambiguity, and how to show value to stakeholders.About us:Product Management community and Interim Product Management services. Our mission is to help companies discover and deliver great products faster. We empower Europe's Product Management community to share knowledge generously for free. We earn money with Interim product management services for parent leaves or when hiring is slow. We manage the unglamorous hands-on work of a Product Manager/Owner, Product Ops, or Product Leader on an interim basis (3+ months). We onboard fast, align teams, and deliver outcomes.Join us here too:🤩 Community Chat on Telegram https://t.me/getproductpeople📆 Upcoming events on MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/productpeople/🎥 Talk Recordings on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductPeopleManagement📌 Updates and Product Opportunities LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/getproductpeople📝 Blog articles on Medium https://medium.com/getproductpeople🎏 Alternative locations:Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getproductpeopleTwitch https://www.twitch.tv/productpeopleDiscord https://discord.gg/e4xkuwMPbKTimestamps:(1:51) Do things that don't scale(2:40) Experience with hadmade jewelry business(6:27) Not starting with Experimentation in Product(9:29) Experiences team at Airbnb(13:35) Simple experimentation frameworks(16:04) Balancing strategy, planning and experimentation(19:50) Small increments and de-risking big bets(20:57) Experimentation teams(22:16) Wizard of Oz, concierge, and other tactics to test desirability(24:49) Creating an experimentation culture(26:51) Showing value to stakeholders(28:39) Beginner's mindset and ambiguity This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit getproductpeople.substack.com
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