Owner To Owner Podcast

Michael Kerr
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Sep 10, 2025 • 47min

How to secure a better deal leasing or buying a commercial property: Vicki Likoudis from True North Buyer's Advocate

@Michael Kerr speaks with @Vicki Likoudis from True North Buyers Advocates about the opportunities for tenants and buyers in favorable commercial property market cycle. Vicki sees the opportunity being available for another 6-9 months.They discuss how small business owners can take advantage of this cycle to negotiate a better lease or acquire a commercial property.It's a tenant's market right now, making negotiation crucial.Vicki shares her extensive background in small business and her role as a buyer's advocate, emphasizing the importance of understanding the market cycle, negotiation strategies, and the emotional aspects of property acquisition. They discuss;How buying advocacy can help clients navigate property purchases and leases.The challenges and opportunities presented by the current market conditionsThe significance of community ownershipWhy Commercial property can be emotional for business owners.Government support is needed for small business funding and mental healthNegotiation strategies can lead to significant savings for tenantsChapters 00:00 Introduction to Commercial Property Opportunities01:01 Vicki's Background in Small Business04:51 Understanding the Role of a Buyer's Advocate08:13 Current Market Cycle for Commercial Property11:10 Navigating Vacant Commercial Properties13:59 Exploring Off-Market Opportunities15:28 Consultative Approach to Property Acquisition18:29 Benefits of Buying vs. Leasing Commercial Property20:57 Landlord-Tenant Relationships and Negotiations22:21 Negotiating Commercial Leases: A Win-Win Approach25:09 Regional vs. Metro: Understanding Property Dynamics28:06 Community Ownership: A New Model for Local Businesses31:03 The Challenges of Community-Driven Business Models33:33 The Importance of Local Businesses in Regional Economies37:13 Government Support for Small Businesses: A Call to Action  Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au 
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Sep 4, 2025 • 41min

From Wagga to Melbourne. Building Habibi Chicken into a legacy business, Farhan Rehman.

@Michael Kerr and @Farhan Rehman, co-founder of @Habibi Chicken,  a family business founded in #WaggaWagga. Farhan shares 'the journey' of creating, expanding, taking on Melbourne and building a community based, legacy business. We talk about;the challenges and triumphs of entrepreneurshipthe importance of communitythe drive to create opportunities in regional areashow diverse talent and cultural exchange contribute to building resilient businesses and vibrant communitiesregional entrepreneurshipimmigration policy and economic development, and leveraging these dynamics for sustainable growthresilienceskills shortagescreating a brand with purpose and legacy@Habibi Chicken @kerrcapital@rehmansheriffgroup  Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au 
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Aug 27, 2025 • 43min

Super charging the growth of employee owned Small Businesses, Stephen Greenwood, Global CEO, Valloop

Stephen Greenwood, the Global CEO of Valloop, and Hunter Page, its Australian Director, dive into the transformative impact of employee ownership for SMEs. They discuss how Valloop's innovative platform is reshaping business transitions, empowering employees as legitimate buyers. The conversation highlights the rising interest in employee ownership as a strategic exit plan, its role in preserving local economies, and the need for enhanced education on the benefits of such transitions for communities and productivity.
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Aug 20, 2025 • 55min

The future of clean. EWater's Phil Gregory on building the worlds most sustainable cleaning solution.

@Phil Gregory from @EWaterSystems joins host @Michael Kerr. They discuss Phil's  journey from various jobs to creating a sustainable cleaning technology company tackling a global problem from Australia. This is valuable advice for aspiring entrepreneurs and covers;the importance of purpose and profitraising capital and funding growthtechnology licencingnavigating big competitorsthe importance of exit planning, andthe significance of becoming a B Corp.TakeawaysHow Phil Gregory's diverse career path led him to start eWater Systems.The importance of purpose and profit in business.How Phil's personal experiences with environmental issues fueled his passion for change.Building strong client relationships is crucial for business success.Navigating competition from established chemical companies is a significant challenge.Having a clear exit strategy can guide business growth and decisions.Becoming a B Corp aligns with eWater's mission of sustainability.The future of eWater Systems involves expanding awareness and market presence.Government regulations can create unnecessary challenges for small businesses.It's a really informative listen on the what's and how's that have  propelled eWater Systems to the forefront of sustainable innovation.Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more insightful episodes! Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au 
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Aug 13, 2025 • 51min

Strategies for crafting your small business brand: Tracy Fryer from Design Studio Perth

Join @tracy fryer from @designstudioperth and @michael kerr as we explore the art of branding. Tracy shares her journey from a creative entrepreneur to a branding expert, offering valuable insights into how small businesses can craft a compelling brand identity. Learn about the essential elements of branding, the importance of understanding your target audience, and how a strong brand can drive business success.Key Highlights:Tracy's entrepreneurial journey and the birth of Design Studio PerthThe three pillars of effective branding: messaging, visual identity, and media. Real-world examples of branding success and challenges.Takeaways:Brand Identity as a North Star: A well-defined brand identity serves as a guiding compass for all marketing efforts, ensuring consistency and clarity in messaging and visuals.Understanding the Ideal Client: Identifying and focusing on your ideal client is crucial for creating a brand that resonates and attracts the right audience, leading to more effective marketing strategies.Beyond Logos: The Three Pillars of Branding: Successful branding encompasses messaging, visual identity, and media, all aligned to create a cohesive and compelling brand presence.Branding as a Growth Catalyst: A strong brand not only differentiates a business in a crowded market but also adds value, enhancing business growth and sustainability.Emotional Connection and Trust: Branding is about evoking emotions and building trust with your audience, which can lead to increased loyalty and long-term success. Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au 
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Jul 24, 2025 • 1h

BizVal Global founder Graham Stephen on making your business more valuable and sellable.

@Michael Kerr and @Graham Stephen, founder of @BizVal Global, discuss #businessvaluation for small and medium enterprises (SMEs). With "85 to 95% of small businesses not sellable" we discuss the imperative for owners and advisers to understand business value today so they can begin proactively increasing it from tomorrow. Graham explains why forward-looking valuations are the key to helping business owners make informed decisions.They explore Graham's journey into entrepreneurship and his fascinating global perspective on business valuation,TakeawaysBusiness valuation is often overlooked until a sale is imminent.Many business owners do not understand the true value of their business.Regular valuations can help business owners make informed decisions.Owner dependency is a critical factor in business valuation.Valuation should be a forward-looking process, not just historical.Understanding cash profits is more important than revenue figures.The compliance aspect of valuation can limit its effectiveness.Data accuracy is essential for credible valuations.Removing red tape can foster a better environment for SMEs.Access to funding is crucial for small business growth.Chapters00:00 Introduction to BizVal Global and Its Purpose02:32 Graham's Journey to Entrepreneurship05:27 Understanding Business Valuation Importance08:43 The 85% of Unsellable Businesses12:13 Global Perspectives on Business Valuation14:25 Choosing the Right Valuation Approach18:43 The Valuation Process Explained21:40 Key Valuation Drivers for Business Owners24:39 The Role of Accountants in Valuation27:36 Valuation Multiples and Their Implications30:39 Understanding Business Valuation: Buyers and Multiples34:30 The Impact of Business Age and Owner Dependency38:33 Mitigating Risks: Insurance and Business Preparedness39:28 Data Sources and Valuation Challenges43:21 Valuation Process: A Comprehensive Approach49:23 Valuation Gaps: Realistic Expectations and Deal Structures52:10 Improving Australia's SME Landscape: Key Recommendations@kerrcapital Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au 
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Jul 9, 2025 • 55min

Amy Christopherson founder of Grounded HR, making your small business team click.

In this conversation, @Michael Kerr and @Amy Christopherson, founder of @Grounded HR, discuss her pathway into small business ownership, the importance of HR in small businesses, and the challenges faced by business owners. They explore the significance of leadership in employee engagement, navigating difficult conversations, and building a positive workplace culture. Amy shares insights on #exit planning, #employee ownership, and the impact of #remote work on business operations. The discussion emphasizes the need for a growth mindset and the importance of focusing on people within organizations.Takeaways;Amy started Grounded HR while traveling Australia.HR should be accessible to small businesses from day one.Disengaged employees can sacrifice profit.Business owners need to learn people management skills.Difficult conversations are acts of kindness.Small gestures can build a positive workplace culture.Remote work has changed employee expectations.Exit planning is crucial for business resilience.Employee ownership can be a viable transition strategy.A growth mindset is essential for business leaders.  Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au 
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Jul 1, 2025 • 46min

Honor Northam from Honorbread on employee ownership and fostering resilient local economies.

Host @Michael Kerr speaks with @Honor Northam about her journey in business ownership and her advocacy for employee ownership. They discuss the challenges and benefits of transitioning to employee ownership trusts (EOTs), the impact of small businesses on local communities, and the cultural barriers that hinder the adoption of employee ownership in Australia. Honor shares her experiences with her bakery, @Honorbread, and how with limited formal business qualifications she has successfully run multiple businesses.The discussion covers;the upside of employees having a real stake in the companies they work for#employeeownership as a way to reward those who contribute to a business's success.how transitioning to an employee ownership trust can be financially beneficial for business ownerswhy #communityimpact is a significant consideration for small business owners when thinking about #exitplanninghow small businesses play a crucial role in supporting local communitieswhy understanding #EOTs is essential for business transitions.why cultural perceptions of ownership can hinder the adoption of employee ownership models.why regular business valuations are important for planning transitionshow the future of employee ownership in Australia is promising but requires more advocacy and understanding.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Employee Ownership02:47 Honor's Business Journey and Employee Ownership Experience05:59 Challenges and Misconceptions in Employee Ownership09:09 Financial Benefits of Employee Ownership11:56 Transitioning Businesses to Employee Ownership15:01 Community Impact and Responsibility18:01 Supporting Local Youth and Employment20:52 The Complexity of Business Succession24:09 Opportunities in Employee Ownership26:09 Exploring Employee Ownership Trusts (EOTs)29:20 Challenges of Employee Buy-In32:30 Cultural Perceptions of Employee Ownership37:43 Valuing Business Equity and Its Implications  Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au 
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Jun 19, 2025 • 57min

Rosy McEvedy entrepreneurial founder of IV League Drips on overcoming the challenges of starting up and recovering from 2 big financial hits.

@Rosy McEvedy founder of @IV League Drips, shares her entrepreneurial journey.Rosy founded the business in 2018 and has grown it to nearly 200 licensees.She faced two major setbacks in her entrepreneurial journey.The first setback was a partnership that ended poorly due to lack of compatibility.Rosy's background in pharmacy and nursing influenced her business direction.Rosy shares her personal take on the;Importance of #resilienceComplexities of #businesspartnershipsValue of self-awareness in businessNeed for thorough research and understanding when entering partnerships and the significance of hiring the right people to fill gaps in a business.The conversation covers Rosy's innovative licensing model in the health industry, aiming to make preventative health services accessible across Australia. TakeawaysShe highlights the importance of hiring over partnerships for business growth.Rosy's resilience and determination have been key to her success. Every business owner faces moments of doubt.Support from friends and mentors is crucial.Learning from setbacks builds resilience.Purpose should drive business decisions.A strong network can lead to opportunities.Financial health is vital for business growth.Mentorship can provide invaluable guidance.The importance of a purpose-driven approach.Building a sustainable business model is key.Networking can open doors to new opportunities.rosy@ivleaguedrips.com @michael kerr @kerrcapital Chapters00:00 Introduction to IV League Drips02:23 Rosy's Journey and Business Background10:00 First Major Setback: The Partnership24:40 Second Setback: Financial Distress and Lessons Learned28:03 Overcoming Financial Setbacks34:00 The Importance of Support Systems38:57 Purpose-Driven Business50:56 Mentorship and Guidance for Growth Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au 
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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 4min

Jon Manning from Pricing Prophets on unlocking profitability through pricing strategies.

@Michael Kerr and @Jon Manning on why #pricing is the biggest lever for improving profitability. They discuss using pricing strategies as a highly effective way to increase small business profitability. They explore the #psychology behind pricing, the common hesitations business owners face when considering price increases, and the importance of effectively communicating these changes to customers. They cover innovative pricing tactics, the significance of choice architecture in proposals, and the necessity of establishing a systematic pricing cadence.Key takeouts;the need for businesses to understand their value propositionhow and when to reassess pricing models to ensure sustainability and growthwhy business owners need to engage in meaningful discussions with their customers about value and pricingthe importance of understanding the different 'business unit' within a business when considering price changesthe psychological aspects of pricing that affect customer perceptionshow reframing pricing discussions as value conversations can helpChapters00:00 Introduction to Pricing Strategies09:37 The Psychology of Pricing and Business Owner Hesitation18:34 Communicating Price Changes Effectively23:07 Understanding Customer Value and Pricing Conversations31:08 Reassessing Pricing Models for Profitability37:41 Understanding Pricing Complexity40:00 Innovative Pricing Tactics47:12 The Power of Choice Architecture55:48 The Psychology of Pricing01:01:39 Establishing a Pricing Cadence01:10:26 Government and Pricing Dynamics@kerrcapital@pricing prophets   Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au 

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