
The DeSci Podcast
Rethinking Science - Let's talk to the leaders of the decentralized science industry about the future of biotech. Brought to you by www.molecule.to
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Latest episodes

Nov 14, 2023 • 40min
Michael Baran on Decentralized Science and Investing in Blockchain Technology
Michael Baran, Executive Director at WRDM and partner at Pfizer Ventures, delves into the revolutionary potential of decentralized science (DeSci). He explores how DeSci is redefining traditional biotech paradigms and enhancing investment models through decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs). Michael discusses the risks in early-stage science investments, challenges in biopharma, and common misconceptions about the sector. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining scientific quality while navigating the complexities of innovation and funding in the evolving landscape.

Sep 20, 2023 • 42min
The Decentralized Biotech Movement with Dr. Jocelynn Pearl (LabDAO)
Dr. Jocelynn Pearl, biotech scientist and co-founder of LabDAO, discusses the birth of Decentralized Biotech, the importance of incentivizing knowledge sharing, pros and cons of centralization in Biotech, limits of online collaboration, sharing tacit knowledge, funding for good projects, and contentious topics within LabDAO.

Sep 8, 2023 • 1h 55min
Juan Benet on the Translational Science Problem, AGI and Decentralized Science
Juan Benet, Founder of Protocol Labs, discusses the translational science problem, cryptocurrency's impact on research, and the intersection of AI and future society.

Aug 12, 2023 • 56min
Investing in Network States, DeSci, and Over-regulated Industries | Niklas Anzinger
Join Niklas Anzinger as he discusses investing in network states, startup cities, and over-regulated industries on this episode. Learn about Infinitia Funds, Prospera's mission, and the need for improved regulatory systems. Explore projects like Zuzalu focusing on extending human lifespans and enhancing health outcomes. Discover the potential for growth and innovation in fields like Longevity and Science through Network States and Startup Cities.

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Jul 27, 2023 • 1h 23min
Law & Disorder: The IP Token Revolution
Welcome to another episode of the DeSci Podcast. Today, we were joined by Jesse Hudson, the Chief Legal Architect at Molecule, Chris Byrnes, an IP Legal Advisor also representing Molecule, and Benji Leibowitz, Product Manager at Molecule.
The existing intellectual property (IP) system faces several challenges that hinder its effectiveness and innovation potential. Patent trolls, the system's lack of efficiency, and the high transaction costs associated with acquiring and enforcing IP rights further burden inventors, researchers, and scientific enterprises.
In this episode, we explore the groundbreaking concept of IP Tokens and how they can help solve the issues plaguing the current IP system. We explain what IP Tokens are and how they differentiate from IP-NFTs. We also discuss how IP tokens could facilitate scientific entrepreneurship and how they open up decentralization in science by enabling a system where the community can partake in the governance processes.
Navigate the various topics covered in the Podcast using the timestamps below.
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⭐ Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:11 About Jesse Hudson
2:54 About Chris Byrnes
5:47 Fundamental issues within the IP system
11:16 How Molecule facilitates Scientific entrepreneurship
20:12 Overview of Intellectual Property
32:09 What is an IP-NFT?
37:05 IP Tokens and why they matter.
51:11 Digitizing the process of IP licensing
1:02:41 IP Tokens and Decentralization
1:10:16 IP financing
1:16:31 Enforcing IP rights
1:22:22 Outro
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Special thanks to:
Benji Leibowitz: https://twitter.com/benjileibo
Jesse Hudson: https://twitter.com/jsshdsn
Chris Byrnes: https://twitter.com/reimagineIP
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/Molecule_dao
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Jul 18, 2023 • 52min
Reforming Science Funding through better Grants Programs | Ben Reinhardt
Welcome to another episode of the DeSci Podcast! Today, we were joined by Ben Reinhardt, founder of Speculative Technologies, a nonprofit research organization that runs coordinated research programs to unlock groundbreaking innovations.
In this episode, we explore the qualities that make funders exceptional and the key factors that contribute to successful startup grants. We also shed light on the social and financial asymmetries between grantor and grantee, highlighting their negative impact on the funding process.
Other topics we discussed are the differences between small and large grants, limitations of grant-making programs, common misconceptions between the public and private sector and many more.
Feel free to navigate through any of the topics discussed in the Podcast using the timestamps below.
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⭐ Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:46 Characteristics of good funders
6:39 Key factors for successful startup grants
13:02 Asymmetries in grantor-grantee relationships
16:20 Small and large grants
19:09 Coordination in research
26:50 Pros and cons of grants
30:28 Limitations and drawbacks of grant-making programs
36:10 Common misconceptions between the public and private sector
38:07 Contentious issues within your field
42:42 Reforming science funding
44:20 How do you approach research management?
46:52 Topics Ben wants to write about
52:04 Outro
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If you want to join us on the show as a speaker or have guest ideas, please shoot us a mail at podcast@molecule.to
Special thanks to:
Lea Degen (host): https://twitter.com/lealeata
Ben Reinhardt: https://twitter.com/Ben_Reinhardt
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Let's connect:
Website: https://bit.ly/3d6nh2C
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Molecule_dao
Discord: https://discord.com/invite/moleculedao

Jun 26, 2023 • 48min
Philanthropy's Role in Transforming Early-Stage Science Funding with Nadia Asparouhova
Welcome to another episode of the DeSci Podcast! We are excited to have Nadia Asparouhova, an independent researcher and author of "Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software", as our guest today.
In this thought-provoking episode, we delve into the world of early-stage science funding and philanthropy. We discuss the role philanthropy plays in society and how it has evolved over the years. We also explore new funding mechanisms that have emerged to revolutionize the landscape of early-stage science, as well as the limitations and setbacks associated with these new funding mechanisms.
Additionally, we discuss the political challenges of early-stage science funding and the pivotal role that government and individual patrons should play in supporting early-stage science.
Please refer to the timestamps below to navigate through any of the topics discussed in the podcast.
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⭐ Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:40 The role of philanthropy.
03:16 What drove your interest in science funding?
05:00 The uniqueness of tech
06:19 Understanding early stage science
08:27 New funding mechanisms for early stage science
13:02 Limitations to the new funding mechanisms
16:09 Importance of peer review
18:25 Common misconceptions about early stage science funding
21:47 Evolution of philanthropy
27:18 Philanthropy and the government
29:35 Political Challenges of early-stage science Funding
35:25 Legitimacy in early stage science funding
41:47 Science philanthropy: Then & Now
47:23 Outro
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If you prefer listening to podcasts on audio apps, feel free to search for "The DeSci Podcast" on Spotify, Google Podcasts & Apple Podcasts. You'll also find all links to the podcast apps below.
If you want to join us on the show as a speaker or have guest ideas, please shoot us a mail at podcast@molecule.to
Special thanks to:
Lea Degen (host): https://twitter.com/lealeata
Nadia: https://twitter.com/nayafia
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Let's connect:
Website: https://bit.ly/3d6nh2C
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Molecule_dao
Discord: https://discord.com/invite/moleculedao

Jun 15, 2023 • 34min
Revolutionizing Drug Discovery with AI - The Arctoris Approach with Martin-Immanuel Bittner
Welcome to another episode of the DeSci Podcast. Today, we had the privilege of having Dr. Martin-Immanuel Bittner as our guest. He is the CEO of Arctoris, which is the world's first fully automated platform for drug discovery, focused on accelerating the drug discovery process.
In this episode, we explore a variety of fascinating topics related to drug discovery. Dr. Bittner shares insights on the story behind building Arctoris and its mission to accelerate the drug discovery process. We also talk about how the drug development process has evolved over the years and the need to automate drug discovery research.
Other topics discussed were challenges stemming from the lack of rigorous funding in biotech, common misconceptions about automation, and many more.
Please feel free to navigate through any of the topics discussed in the podcast using the timestamps below.
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⭐ Timestamps:
0:38 Intro
1:18 About Arctoris
2:52 What drove your interests in building Arctoris
4:23 Learnings from running Arctoris
5:53 What area needs more focus
8:03 Common misconceptions about automation
10:01 Flexibility in automation
13:44 Underexploited areas
16:09 Antibiotic resistance problem
17:58 Funding structures for Biotech companies
20:15 Investing in Biotech
22:38 The private sector and Academia
25:00 Changing beliefs on the need of automation in drug discovery
27:08 Contentious issues within your field
29:06 Implicit knowledge in drug discovery
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If you prefer listening to podcasts on audio apps, feel free to search for "The DeSci Podcast" on Spotify, Google Podcasts & Apple Podcasts. You'll also find all links to the podcast apps below.
If you want to join us on the show as a speaker or have guest ideas, please shoot us a mail at podcast@molecule.to
Special thanks to:
Lea Degen (host): https://twitter.com/lealeata
Martin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinimmanuelbittner/?originalSubdomain=uk
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Let's connect:
Website: https://bit.ly/3d6nh2C
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Molecule_dao
Discord: https://discord.com/invite/moleculedao

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Jun 4, 2023 • 36min
Martin Karlsson on AI x DeSci — Making research more efficient and accessible with Lateral
Martin Karlsson, CEO of Lateral, an innovative web app for scientists, discusses the best way to utilize Lateral's AI tools. We also explore the future of research, the cutting-edge capabilities of AI, and the importance of retaining human agency in the research process.

May 21, 2023 • 43min
LabDAO on Accelerating Advancements in Life Sciences through Accessible Scientific Tools
Niklas Rindtorff, co-founder of LabDAO, shares insights on conducting life science research online, benefits of collaboration within the scientific community, ownership rights in decentralized autonomous organizations, overlooked areas in decentralized science, differences in the private and public sector, and underappreciated aspects of academia.