NSCA’s Coaching Podcast

Dan Perlmutter, Director of Sports Performance at Duke University, redefines toughness in coaching as adaptability and positivity. He discusses building a vibrant, people-focused culture in sports, emphasizing relationships and mentorship for interns. Perlmutter shares insights on how to navigate changes like NIL deals while maintaining a strong team environment. He highlights the inquisitive nature of college athletes at elite schools and champions a coaching philosophy rooted in gratitude and community engagement. This conversation offers valuable blueprints for aspiring coaches.

Sam Moore’s path into sport science is defined by taking risks and chasing meaningful questions. After a devastating knee injury as a collegiate athlete, Moore not only returned to compete, but she also discovered her calling in strength and conditioning. She recounts her coaching, sport science, and hybrid roles prior to leaving a full-time position to pursue her PhD at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Moore describes sport science as problem-solving and drawing evidence across disciplines to drive innovation. She discusses her research on female athlete availability in elite settings, including nuances like body composition, recovery, and high speed exposure in training. Moore advises young professionals to remain open-minded, pitch their ideal position if it does not exist, and go “all in”— knowing one decision does not define forever. Whether you are a coach or researcher, this episode delivers real-world insights on navigating your career with courage and curiosity. Connect with Sam on Instagram: @sammoorestrong and Twitter/X: @SamMooreStrong | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs  Show Notes“One of the biggest pieces of advice that I feel like was helpful for me in my career was that you can-- if you're good enough at something, somebody will pay you to do it. So, there might not be a job out there that is what you want to do with the description that you want. That's OK. You can go in, and you can sell it.” 18:53 “I think it was my mom that told me whatever choice you make is the right one because it's the one you made, and you don't have to do something forever. You can work a job for one year or for six months, right? […] I think that was really helpful for me to make a switch to that kind of mindset when it comes to my career rather than thinking I had to have it all planned out for the next 10 years at every point and every move.” 24:00 “In terms of any advice for the coaching world […] just being really curious and being transparent about it, I think is really important. And that's what's going to help drive us along.” 39:16

Former collegiate hockey athlete Cole Hergott thrived in the offseason, but it took a setback to accelerate his path in strength and conditioning. After losing his spot on the team, he channeled his work ethic into interning with Trinity Western University. Years later, he returned to his alma mater as Head Strength and Conditioning Coach. Only 25 at the time, Hergott recounts the unique challenge of coaching athletes who were older or previous classmates. Leading over 300 athletes as the sole full-time strength and conditioning coach, he quickly learned to “write all your plans in pencil,” while building trust, optimizing logistics, and adapting through COVID-19 disruptions. Hergott emphasizes mentorship and encourages coaches to lean on those who navigated similar challenges. As part of the NSCA British Columbia Advisory Board, he encourages listeners to share their practical insights at local events. Hergott’s journey underscores the value of continual growth and embracing uncertainty. Connect with Cole via email at cole.hergott@twu.ca | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs  | Join the NSCA Canadian Community on LinkedIn! Learn more about volunteering with the NSCA at the local level at NSCA.com/Volunteer. Interested in presenting at a local or national NSCA event? Submit your application here.Show Notes“I think for young coaches starting out, a lot of it is, yeah, just being willing to make mistakes, being willing to adapt, and to continue to grow and learn. Call people, text people, send emails, ask questions. We talked about mentors. Lean on your mentors because they've been there. They've made the mistakes. I've made the mistakes and I continue to make mistakes every day, but I think that's how you learn and grow.” 11:05 “Strength and conditioning is not something that we're just going to figure out and somebody's going to have all the answers. As I talked about before, there's more than one way to skin a cat. And so it's important to learn from a bunch of people who maybe think differently than you so that you can continue to get good results.” 11:30 “I'd say if you're somebody who's looking to speak, find something that you're good at, something that you are passionate about, that you like to speak about, that you're good at. And then don't be afraid to reach out to your advisory board…” 16:15

Squash demands speed, strength, and control at the edge of human range — but still suffers from a massive stigma around heavy lifting and underuse of strength and conditioning. Brigita Roemer is leading the shift as Director of Strength and Conditioning for U.S. Squash, where she oversees all off-court physical development. After suffering a devastating injury as a track and field athlete, she discovered strength and conditioning when a biomechanics team “put [her] back together,” setting her on a linear path in the profession. Assigned to a sport she had never heard of before, Roemer began by emphasizing injury risk reduction, full range of motion, and “strength at length” to meet squash’s extreme movement and deceleration demands. With frequent connective tissue injuries like sprains and strains, athlete availability remains a top concern. By prioritizing continuing education and building relationships, Roemer has helped U.S. Squash make history — on the path to LA 2028. Connect with Brigita on Instagram: @brigey_lux | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs   Elite strength and conditioning pros like Brigita Roemer rely on NSCA events to stay sharp, grounded, and connected. Join them at the 2025 NSCA National Conference (NSCACon) this July 16–19 in Kansas City, MO.Show Notes“I think honestly-- and people say this all the time-- it is the relationships that you make and it is the people that you know.” 5:21 “I think in squash and strength and conditioning, traditionally, they haven't had the closest relationship as far as foundational strength and conditioning goes. Historically, not many players lifted heavy. There's still like a massive stigma around heavy lifting and squash with making players bulky and slow and all the things that we're a little bit more current on in the field.” 11:00 “Because, physically, it's a brutal sport, man. It really is. I did a ton of research on any sort of studies that have been done in the sport. There aren't a lot, but there's some, and they spend something like, 81 to 95% of the time on court in zone 5. There's six to eight times their body weight going through the kinetic chain when you do a hard lunge to the front. Just the percentage of connective tissue injuries in the sport are wild. I mean, the season is basically all year long, with the exception of June to August.” 12:07 “I always start with injury reduction first. They can't get better at the sport if they can't be on court. So the best ability is availability, as they say. I make sure that whatever programming I do really hones in on a lot of that and the connective tissue stuff.” 17:25

After fifteen years with the Denver Nuggets, Felipe Eichenberger has witnessed the evolution of National Basketball Association (NBA) performance firsthand. The demands of an NBA season include 82+ games, relentless travel, and the challenge of staying fresh through it all. Eichenberger reveals their post-game lifting culture, driven by the philosophy: “If it’s a hard day, let’s make it hard.” Prioritizing compliance over hardware, he emphasizes flexible periodization and nailing the basics to meet each player’s needs — whether navigating injuries, tailoring programs to position demands, or microdosing training for longevity. At the heart of it all is buy-in, trust, and accountability. Eichenberger shares the importance of leveraging psychology, getting top players to set the tone for the team, and balancing consistency with creativity. With more jobs and awareness in NBA strength and conditioning than ever, this episode explores how to make an impact at basketball’s highest level. Connect with Felipe on Instagram: @eichbra and LinkedIn:@felipe-eichenberger | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs Learn more about the National Basketball Strength and Conditioning Association (NBSCA), the Official Basketball Partner of the NSCA.Show Notes“We try to be specific as much as possible, position, size, and all those things… But if you go to the principles, so if you go to overload principle, how do you get stronger is by lifting weights. How you maintain strength is by lifting weights. So, we have to play with the volume and things like that, but you have to lift weights often.” 11:40 “You can only work with players if they buy into your program. If they don't, they can go somewhere else. Like they have enough money to hire somebody else. They have enough money to do those things in the NBA. But why does a player want to work out with you? What kind of buy-in are you creating with that player? It could be different things. Accountability, if you say you're going to do something, do something. Be there before the player. Like show the player that you want to work with that player, right?” 18:00 “You have to focus on the whole team. That's what strength and conditioning is. So, my belief is that you're going to train the player that doesn't touch the court, and then you're going to play the player the most minutes very similar. So, like you got to give a chance to the guy that's like, in our case, our 17th guy trains the same as the first guy that we have.” 26:30

Thrown into the fire — that is how Jeanne Rankin learned, and it’s how she’s developing her athletes and interns at Coastal Carolina University. Rankin reveals how trust is what drives buy-in, performance, and success; without it, even the best program is just a piece of paper. She breaks down some of strength and conditioning’s toughest realities — long hours, relentless demands, and work-life challenges — which require strategic approaches across career stages. A process-oriented coach, Rankin shares practical strategies for setting boundaries, maximizing efficiency, and avoiding burnout when 70-hr workweeks are common. She also delivers real-world insights on career longevity, professional growth, and adapting to an evolving industry. With salary conversations, career sustainability, and the future of collegiate strength and conditioning on the table, Rankin brings an unfiltered, solutions-driven perspective. Whether you are just starting out or an experienced professional, this episode delivers straight talk on what it takes to succeed long-term. Connect with Jeanne on Instagram: @thegingerguns or by email at: jrankin@coastal.edu | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs   Check out the 2022 NSCA Salary Survey discussed in this episode and watch for 2025 NSCA Salary Survey results coming soon. Additionally, find actionable strategies to support a raise request in the NSCA’s new article, “How to Ask for a Raise in Strength & Conditioning.” Read the NSCA’s proposal to the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) to recognize “strength and conditioning coach” as a detailed occupation in their classification system.Show Notes“If you've got a coach who's really bought into what you're doing. You're going to run through a wall not just for yourself, but for them too, because you know that they're doing a good job leading the way.” 9:45 “It's OK to make mistakes. I want it to be an environment where you can make mistakes. So just kind of taking in all the experiences that people give you, I think, is very important for younger strength coaches, learning from mistakes.” 14:30 “My biggest job is, sure, I want you to get better as an athlete, but I want you to be a person who's ready to go into whatever line of work you want to and to help you develop into a better person and human being that's going to make this world a better place.” 24:35

Night after night, Cirque du Soleil’s performing arts athletes defy gravity and expectations — executing elite-level feats across 480 shows annually. Maintaining peak performance requires more than talent; it demands strategic preparation, adaptability, and trust. Channeling backgrounds in dance and martial arts, married coaching duo Mike and Jade Esmeralda bring a philosophy of continuous improvement to Cirque’s collectivistic infrastructure. Preparing performers with diverse training experiences, they connect on an artistic level to balance readiness with creative expression. From applying RAMP (Raise, Activate, Mobilize, Potentiate) warm-ups for mitigating injury risk to tactical load carriage insights for LED costumes, the Esmeraldas leverage parallels across high-performance environments. Strategies for Cirque’s “valuable human artistic assets” must enhance durability, manage load, and support longevity in an unpredictable, physically — and psychologically — demanding profession. Jade’s evidence-based journalism also combats social media misinformation. Discover how they adapt daily, build buy-in across cultures, and redefine training for a one-of-a-kind population. Connect with Mike Instagram: @m.b.esmeralda, and LinkedIn: @michaelesmeralda, and Jade on Instagram: @jadesmeralda_ | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs Discover more stage-specific strategies in the NSCA Performing Arts Special Interest Group on LinkedIn. See some of these impressive feats mentioned in this episode performed by Cirque du Soleil athletes on Instagram at @cirquedusoleil and @cirquedusoleilcasting.Show Notes“As far as needs analysis, I always watch the shows, and I time it. Like everything else, like evidence-based practice, it all started with just really learning on what that is. Before it became research. It was all practice-based evidence. Then it became evidence-based practice. So that's kind of what we're doing right now, whether it's, like, energy systems, how long are they hanging on that strap, what positions are they going into, what are the injury points that I'm looking at, and how can I make sure that they become very durable? Mind you, they are performing 10 times a week, two sequence shows per day with an hour break in between, and it all adds up to 480 shows a year.” 9:55 “I think no matter what show it is, it really encourages you to get creative and get experimental with what you're doing because for me, the biggest correlation that I saw was with tactical populations and how they have to wear different types of equipment, whether it's strapped in a harness in the front or the back. And then suddenly, I'm diving into research to learn about different interventions and strategies that can help tactical populations and just seeing a correlation between traditional, tactical, maybe special operations who have to wear certain equipment, and these dancers that may be totally different in terms of the surface, but they might have more similarities than you might think.” 23:27

In the "SEC of Division III," championships and high standards define the New England Small College Athletic Conference (NESCAC). Now in his 10th year at Trinity College, Bill DeLongis reinforces high performance is not about scholarships — it’s about culture, strategy, and buy-in. DeLongis outlines how small-school strength coaches manage high athlete-to-staff ratios, maximize resources, and create top-tier training environments despite fewer external incentives. He discusses Trinity College’s sport science partnerships, the power of internship-driven staffing, and why Division III athletes who are playing purely for the love of the game bring a unique level of motivation. Embodying immersive coaching, he explains how experiencing a sport firsthand (through playing, site visits, and athlete surveys) enhances training specificity and buy-in. As Chair of the NSCA Ice Hockey Special Interest Group (SIG), he shares strength strategies, lessons from Team USA Women’s Hockey, and key NSCA resources. His approach proves that any program can compete at the top — with or without scholarships. Connect with Coach DeLongis on Instagram: @billdelongis, LinkedIn: @bill-delongis, or email: bill.delongis@trincoll.edu| Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs Join DeLongis and other experts across sports and performance domains in the NSCA’s community-driven Special Interest Groups (SIGs) today. Take your sport-specific knowledge a step further with NSCA’s Strength Training for Hockey.Show Notes“The athletes are not on an athletic scholarship, as probably most people know. They're playing the sport for the love of the game. They're very motivated. They want to be here. There's nothing really holding them. There's no NIL [Name, Image, and Likeness] money. There's no scholarship over their head. They're playing it and training because they love their sport.” 3:25 “That's 30 different cultures, obviously, more than 30 personalities. Every team has got their vibe and their style of training. So, you do get a lot of reps. You get to see a lot of different programming, work with a lot of different personalities.” 7:20 “That would be something I would recommend to anyone taking over a new sport is play the sport, and obviously, you might not play it at a super high level like I am playing at the lowest level you can play in men's league hockey in the state of Connecticut. But I'm out there. I'm experiencing it. I'm feeling what they're feeling. And then when we get on the ice, we'd be able to do our speed work or our conditioning work. I'm actually out there on skates, which I think really helps with a lot of the buy-in. It’s like, ‘All right, this guy cares. He is taking it upon himself to learn our sport, which is so different.’” 19:40

Brianna Battles believes athleticism does not end when motherhood begins. Frustrated by the lack of resources and support for pregnant and postpartum athletes, she founded Everyday Battles to bridge the gap. Now, she empowers everyone from Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) fighters and Olympians to hobbyists to challenge their perceived fragility, navigate body and identity changes, and pursue a lifetime of athleticism. Battles notes how strength and conditioning coaches are uniquely poised to influence communities and train general populations using a top-down coaching philosophy. Conducting needs analyses, she focuses on their athletic history, predispositions, and how they manage breathing, pressure, and tension during movement. By reverse-engineering a proactive return to performance, she helps clients overcome social media glorification and fearmongering to design an athlete-mom life that serves them. Battles discusses tapping into the “athlete brain” that craves routine and buy-in. Her advice? Get curious, practice brave, and embrace entrepreneurship as another form of progressive overload. Connect with Brianna on Instagram: @brianna.battles and @pregnant.postpartum.athlete or by email at: brianna@briannabattles.com | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs This episode discusses new CASCE field experience requirements that dictate a minimum of two substantially different work experiences. Learn more about CASCE accreditation at NSCA.com/CASCE.Show Notes“Athleticism does not end when motherhood begins.” 4:45 “We have a really big opportunity as strength and conditioning coaches to look at our knowledge base and our experience working with so many different high level athletes and saying, that is a small percentage of the population, but we have a responsibility to be able to apply our knowledge and help to our family, to our friends and to people to help them pursue this lifetime of athleticism, even if it's not at a super high level.” 8:50 “If we're wanting to pursue this lifetime of athleticism, which extends beyond just pregnancy and the trenches of postpartum, there's a lot we have to learn about our body and our relationship with fitness and just kind of our overall approach to health.” 17:10 “It's getting curious because it's not just about becoming a mother. It's knowing how to support girls and women in general because we have different-- we are not fragile at all, but we also might have different considerations. And that's all. It's just, it's understanding what those considerations may be at all different points across the lifespan, from coaching youth girls to collegiate athletes to professional athletes that are women, to then pregnancy and postpartum to perimenopausal, to menopausal, to elderly women.” 22:50

Sheri Walters’ journey to Director of Sports Medicine at Texas A&M University reflects a career defined by innovation, collaboration, and comprehensive integration. Walters discusses the "arms race" in collegiate athletics and how Texas A&M shatters silos through unit alignment and being intentionally present. Drawing from her EXOS experience, she highlights the impact of integrating sports medicine with strength and conditioning. Walters employs research-based cross-body training to maintain strength, prioritizing long-term rehabilitation over limb symmetry index testing. She explains how her Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist® (CSCS®) and Certified Performance and Sport Scientist® (CPSS®) credentials enable her to elevate rehabilitation and speak the language of sport performance professionals. Walters underscores the importance of getting student-athletes back to team strength and conditioning as soon as tissues can tolerate it to promote physiological and psychological healing. She also shares how strength and conditioning coaches can optimize return to performance and reduce reinjury risk. Email Sheri at swalters@athletics.tamu.edu | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs Catch Sheri’s session on bridging the gap in the collegiate setting LIVE at the 2025 NSCA Coaches Conference! Register to watch online at NSCA.com/Coaches. Fascinated by the intersection between strength and conditioning and sports medicine? Join other professionals in the Sports Medicine/Rehabilitation Specialist Interest Group (SIG) to discover more resources and engage in discussion.Show Notes“The goal is to keep them as strong as possible on the uninvolved side, and then likewise, upper body. I don't want to be rehabbing a lower body injury and then turn around next season having to rehab an upper because we didn't maintain that strength. Those are all things that very early on, the strength coach can take. It helps from a physiological healing standpoint. It also helps from a psychological standpoint to be back with their team and doing a lot of their normal activities. By maintaining my CSCS, by getting my CPSS, it's helped me to be able to speak the same language as those professionals, and then ultimately, get the best outcome for our student athletes.” 8:25“We can make sure the tissue can tolerate the load, and then as soon as possible, integrate it back in. So for us, it's very critical that we're working very early on with the strength and conditioning coach to make that transition.” 17:00“I always encourage students pursuing strength and conditioning coaching careers to do is to get into a training room, connect with members of the sports medicine team and profession. They may do that as athletes before they become a strength coach, but especially for those who maybe don't have a high-level athletic experience, connecting with sports medicine professionals is extremely valuable.” 20:20