
The American Reformer Podcast
The American Reformer Podcast’s mission is to promote a vigorous Christian approach to the cultural challenges of our day, rooted in the rich tradition of Protestant social and political thought. Focusing particularly on issues facing American Christians, we will seek to contribute to the reformation of Christian institutions that have become corrupted by false ideologies and practices.
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Jun 25, 2025 • 1h 5min
Iran and Equality (ft. Ben Crenshaw & Mike Sabo)
For an editors roundtable, Timon, Ben, and Mike discuss the meaning of American equality and the potential for war with Iran.
Mike Sabo is a Contributing Editor of American Reformer and an Assistant Editor of The American Mind, the online journal of the Claremont Institute. His writing has appeared at RealClearPolitics, The Federalist, Public Discourse, and American Greatness, among other outlets. He lives with his wife and son in Cincinnati.
Learn more about Mike Sabo's work:
https://americanreformer.org/author/mike-sabo/
Ben R. Crenshaw is a Visiting Assistant Professor at the Declaration of Independence Center at the University of Mississippi. He is a Ph.D. candidate in Politics at the Van Andel Graduate School of Statesmanship at Hillsdale College. You can follow him on X at @benrcrenshaw.
Learn more about Ben Crenshaw's work:
https://americanreformer.org/author/bencrenshaw/
https://gradschool.hillsdale.edu/Profiles/Benjamin-Crenshaw/
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Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 11min
The Virtue of Nationalism (ft. Yoram Hazony)
Yoram Hazony joins Josh and Timon to celebrate the seventh anniversary reprint of his book, The Virtue of Nationalism.
Yoram Hazony is President of the Herzl Institute in Jerusalem, and currently serve as Chairman of the Edmund Burke Foundation, a public affairs institute based in Washington DC that has hosted the National Conservatism Conference since 2019. He has authored numerous books including, "Conservatism: A Rediscovery," "The Philosophy of Hebrew Scripture," "The Jewish State: The Struggle for Israel's Soul," "God and Politics in Esther," and most notably "The Virtue of Nationalism" which was selected as Conservative Book of the Year in 2019, and was an Amazon #1 best-seller in both International Diplomacy and Nationalism. Yoram lives in Israel with his wife Yael and together they have nine children.
Learn more about Yoram Hazony's work:
https://www.yoramhazony.org/about/
https://herzlinstitute.org/en/
https://x.com/yhazony
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Jun 2, 2025 • 1h 3min
Scandals and Due Process (ft. Mike Sabo & Ben Crenshaw)
In this editors roundtable, Mike, Ben, and Timon talk about the recent revelations surrounding former President Biden's health, and recent court cases that are preventing President Trump's immigration policies.
Mike Sabo is a Contributing Editor of American Reformer and an Assistant Editor of The American Mind, the online journal of the Claremont Institute. His writing has appeared at RealClearPolitics, The Federalist, Public Discourse, and American Greatness, among other outlets. He lives with his wife and son in Cincinnati.
Learn more about Mike Sabo's work:
https://americanreformer.org/author/mike-sabo/
Ben R. Crenshaw is a Visiting Assistant Professor at the Declaration of Independence Center at the University of Mississippi. He is a Ph.D. candidate in Politics at the Van Andel Graduate School of Statesmanship at Hillsdale College. You can follow him on X at @benrcrenshaw.
Learn more about Ben Crenshaw's work:
https://americanreformer.org/author/bencrenshaw/
https://gradschool.hillsdale.edu/Profiles/Benjamin-Crenshaw/
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May 14, 2025 • 1h 18min
Preliminary Principle (ft. Zachary Garris)
What is the meaning of the preliminary principle of the PCA's constitution? What is its relationship to the Westminster Confession of Faith? This and more with Zachary Garris in his conversation with Timon Cline and Ben Dunson.
Show Notes:
https://americanreformer.org/2025/04/principle-and-confession/
Zachary Garris serves as pastor of Bryce Avenue Presbyterian Church (PCA) in White Rock, New Mexico. He is the author of Masculine Christianity, Honor Thy-Fathers: Recovering the Anti-Feminist Theology of the Reformers (New Christendom Press), and a forthcoming book on the Southern Presbyterians (coauthored with Sean McGowan). He writes at KnowingScripture.com.
Learn more about Zachary Garris at:
https://www.brycepresbyterian.org/
https://knowingscripture.com/
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May 2, 2025 • 59min
Cotton Mather (ft. Rick Kennedy)
Listener and readers will know that, around here, we love Cotton Mather. On this episode, Rick Kennedy, professor of history at Point Loma Nazarene University, talks to Timon about the life and legacy of "America's first evangelical."
#CottonMather #RickKennedy #PointLoma #History #America #Evangelical #Christian
Show Notes:
https://www.amazon.com/First-American-Evangelical-Religious-Biography/dp/0802872115
https://eerdword.com/cotton-mather-love-to-hate-him-or-hate-to-love-him/
Dr. Rick Kennedy came to PLNU in 1995. An intellectual/cultural historian, he has authored books and articles on the history of logic, mathematics, architecture, astronomy, education, historiography, and Christian thought. His most recent works are on Cotton Mather, one of early America's most influential pastor-scholars, and the Christian History of Southern California. He is also a former president and secretary to the academic organization: The Conference on Faith and History. His wife is a retired principal of City Tree Christian School at the First Presbyterian Church in downtown San Diego, they have four children, and one grandchild.
Learn more about Rick Kennedy's work at:
https://www.pointloma.edu/faculty/rick-kennedy-phd
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Apr 18, 2025 • 1h 18min
Return of the Strong Gods (ft. Rusty Reno)
Five years after the publication of Return of the Strong Gods, Rusty Reno, editor of First Things, provides a retrospective to Timon and Josh on his thesis, the postwar consensus, and America's future.
#RustyReno #FirstThings #Thesis #Consensus #ReturnoftheStrongGods #America #Culture #Politics #Future
Show Notes:
https://www.amazon.com/Return-Strong-Gods-Nationalism-Populism/dp/1621578003
R. R. Reno is the editor of First Things magazine. He was formerly a professor of theology and ethics at Creighton University. He is the author of several books including Fighting the Noonday Devil, a theological commentary on the Book of Genesis in the Brazos Theological Commentary on the Bible series. His work ranges widely in systematic and moral theology, as well as in controverted questions of biblical interpretation.
Learn more about Rusty Reno's work at:
https://firstthings.com/archive/?_author=reno
https://x.com/firstthingsmag
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Apr 16, 2025 • 1h 10min
Trans the Kids, Bigot! (ft. Chase Davis & William Wolfe)
Chase Davis, pastor of The Well Church in Boulder, Colorado, and William Wolfe, executive director of the Center for Baptist Leadership, join the pod to breakdown a new bill in the Colorado legislature: "Legal Protections for Transgender Individuals," and the dramatic repercussions it will have, especially on Christians.
#Colorado #News #Trans #Bill #CoLeg #TransgenderBill #Church #Response
Show notes:
Chase's article: https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/transgender-totalitarianism-new-bill-in-colorado-wages-war-on-faith-free-speech-and-the-family/
CBL's call to action: https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/colorado-pastors-call-on-megachurches-to-join-fight-against-democrats-radical-transgender-abortion-agenda/
William's article: https://www.standingforfreedom.com/2025/04/hell-is-empty-and-all-the-devils-are-in-denver/
Join the fight: https://fight1312.com/
CBL podcast: https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/category/podcast/
Full Proof Theology: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/full-proof-theology/id1529701699
J. Chase Davis (M.Div, Th.M, Denver Seminary) is Lead Pastor of Ministry of The Well Church in Boulder, Colorado. Chase is married to Kim and they have two sons. He is the author of Trinitarian Formation: A Theology of Discipleship in Light of the Father, Son, and Spirit (2021). He also hosts the podcast Full Proof Theology. You can find more of Chase’s writing at jchasedavis.com.
Learn more about J. Chase Davis:
https://x.com/jchasedavis
https://www.jchasedavis.com/
William Wolfe is the Founder and Executive Director of the Center for Baptist Leadership. He has been a part of the Southern Baptist Convention for 13 years. After spending a decade living and working in Washington D.C., including for three Members of Congress, Heritage Action for America, as a Director at the State Department, and as a Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense at the DoD, William moved to Louisville, KY, to complete his seminary education in person. During that time, he became increasingly involved in much-needed work to revitalize the SBC as an institution, and the launch of CBL is an outgrowth of that work. He has a B.A. in History from Covenant College and an M.Div. from SBTS.
Learn more about William Wolfe:
https://x.com/William_E_Wolfe
https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/
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Apr 11, 2025 • 1h 4min
Against the Waves (ft. Jon Harris)
Jon Harris, author and host of Conversations That Matter, returns to the show to talk about his new book, Against the Waves: Christian Order in a Liberal Age.
#JonHarris #NewBook #AgainstTheWaves #Christianity #Order #Culture #Faith #Politics
Show Notes:
https://americanreformer.org/2025/03/red-pills-without-roots/
Order Against the Waves - Againstthewavesbook.com
Jon Harris is an author, producer, and cultural commentator. He is host of Conversations That Matter podcast, makes documentaries at Last Stand Studios, and frequently contributes to Truthscript, an online editorial featuring accessible, short form essays to help Christians think through contemporary issues.
Learn more about Jon Harris' work at:
https://www.jonharrismedia.com/
https://twitter.com/jonharris1989
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Apr 1, 2025 • 1h 15min
"Great Books" is for Losers (ft. Alex Petkas)
Alex Petkas, host of the Cost of Glory, talks to Timon and Ben about the right use of the classics.
#AlexPetkas #CostofGlory #Classics #Plutarch #ClassicalEduation #Education
Show Notes:
https://americanmind.org/salvo/great-books-is-for-losers/
Alex Petkas is a former Classics scholar turned media entrepreneur. He holds a PhD in Classics from Princeton University. He taught at the University of California, San Diego, and California State University, Fresno. He has published research on many subjects, including classical Athenian oratory, late ancient rhetoric and education, and epistle writing. His research on the ancient media technologies of writing (especially letters) led him to take an active interest in the Classics in modern New Media. His years of experience teaching at Paideia’s Living Greek in Greece program led him to a particular interest in the oral nature of classical texts. His day job is in marketing.
Learn more about Alex Petkas's work at:
https://x.com/costofglory
https://www.costofglory.com/
https://www.paideiainstitute.org/apetkas
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Mar 27, 2025 • 1h 53min
Worldview Symposium (ft. Simon Kennedy, Stephen Wolfe, Joel Carini, & Benjamin Mabry)
What is “worldview”? What are its uses and abuses? Contributors to our recent worldview symposium, Simon Kennedy, Stephen Wolfe, Joel Carini, & Benjamin Mabry, answer these questions and more in a wide-ranging roundtable discussion.
#Worldview #Christianity #Culture #Society #StephenWolfe #SimonKennedy #JoelCarini #BenjaminMabry #AmericanReformer #Symposium
Show Notes:
https://americanreformer.org/2025/02/worldview-and-its-discontents/
Simon P. Kennedy is research fellow at the University of Queensland in Australia and a non-resident fellow at the Danube Institute in Budapest. He is associate editor of Quadrant magazine and teaches at a variety of institutions, including the Lachlan Macquarie Institute and Queensland Theological College.
Stephen Wolfe is a postdoctoral fellow in the James Madison Program at Princeton University. He completed his PhD in political philosophy at LSU in 2020. He has several years of teaching experience, including online teaching, and has published several academic articles. He was born and raised in Napa, California and currently lives in North Carolina with his wife and four children. Stephen holds to the Westminster Confession of Faith. He and his family are members of Westminster Presbyterian Church in Baton Rouge, LA.
Joel Carini is a Ph.D. student in philosophy at Saint Louis University. He holds an MDiv from Westminster Theological Seminary and an MA from the University of Chicago. He writes regularly at his Substack, "The Natural Theologian," joelcarini.substack.com.
Benjamin Mabry is an assistant professor of political science at Lincoln Memorial University. He is a graduate of the University of New Orleans and Louisiana State University. Previously he taught at Louisiana Christian University and Georgia Gwinnett College. His writing has appeared at First Things, the American Mind, and elsewhere.
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