

The American Reformer Podcast
American Reformer
The American Reformer Podcast’s mission is to promote a vigorous Christian approach to the cultural challenges of our day, rooted in the rich tradition of Protestant social and political thought. Focusing particularly on issues facing American Christians, we will seek to contribute to the reformation of Christian institutions that have become corrupted by false ideologies and practices.
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Sep 12, 2025 • 1h 4min
Actually Existing Postliberalism (ft. Nathan Pinkoski)
Nathan Pinkoski, fellow at the Center for Renewing America, talks to Timon about postliberalism, the radical shifts of the 1990s, and right wing literature.
Notes: Actually Existing Postliberalism - First Things
The Camp of the Saints - Paperback – Itasca Books
Spiritual Death of the West - First Things
Nathan Pinkoski earned his BA (Hon) from the University of Alberta and his MPhil and DPhil in Politics from the University of Oxford. He’s taught at Princeton University, the University of Toronto, and the University of Florida. Pinkoski’s research and writings cover the decline of republican government and the rise of postconstitutionalism in the United States and Western Europe. He has published in a variety of academic and popular journals, including Compact, First Things, Perspectives on Political Science, and The Claremont Review of Books. His book project, Actually Existing Postliberalism, examines the transformation of the West since 1989. It is under contract with Basic Books. He is also translating Éric Zemmour’s bestseller The Suicide of the French (Le Suicide français) into English for Encounter Books.
Learn more about Nathan Pinkowski:
https://americarenewing.com/team/nathan-pinkoski/
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Sep 4, 2025 • 54min
Americanism (ft. Pax Americana)
The popular internet pseudonym, Pax Americana, joins Timon to talk about aesthetics, nostalgia, and the American right.
@1776pax is an X account dedicated to countering narratives that portray America as systemically flawed, emphasizing its heritage and values. Founded to challenge decades of negative programming, it rejects the notion of America as merely a landscape of strip malls and instead promotes historic American traditions and cultural principles that preserve the nation’s founding ideals.
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Aug 29, 2025 • 1h 9min
Right Wing John Mark Comer (ft. Chase Davis & Joe Rigney)
Chase Davis and Joe Rigney join the show to talk about spiritual formation, worship, masculinity, and corporate agency.
Notes: Spiritual Formation and the Trouble with Christian Nationalism - American Reformer
J. Chase Davis (M.Div, Th.M, Denver Seminary) is Lead Pastor of Ministry of The Well Church in Boulder, Colorado. Chase is married to Kim and they have two sons. He is the author of Trinitarian Formation: A Theology of Discipleship in Light of the Father, Son, and Spirit (2021). He also hosts the podcast Full Proof Theology. You can find more of Chase’s writing at jchasedavis.com.
Learn more about J. Chase Davis:
https://www.jchasedavis.com/
Dr. Rigney is an Associate Pastor at Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho and serves as Fellow of Theology at New Saint Andrews College. He is the author of seven books: Live Like a Narnian: Christian Discipleship in Lewis’s Chronicles (Eyes & Pen, 2013); The Things of Earth: Treasuring God by Enjoying His Gifts (Crossway, 2015); Lewis on the Christian Life: Becoming Truly Human in the Presence of God (Crossway, 2018); Strangely Bright: Can You Love God and Enjoy This World? (Crossway, 2020); More Than a Battle: Experiencing Victory, Freedom, and Healing from Lust (B&H, 2021), Courage: How the Gospel Creates Christian Fortitude (Crossway, 2023), and Leadership and Emotional Sabotage (Canon Press, 2024). Previously, Dr. Rigney served as a professor and president of Bethlehem College & Seminary in Minneapolis, a pastor at Cities Church in St. Paul, and a teacher at Desiring God. Joe lives in Moscow, Idaho with his wife Jenny and three sons.
Learn more about Joe Rigney's work at:
https://nsa.edu/contributors/joe-rigney
https://emotionalsabotage.com
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Aug 27, 2025 • 58min
Bourgeois Values (ft. Amy Wax)
Amy Wax, professor of law at the University of Pennsylvania, talks to Timon about her cancellation, the state of academia, and western civilization.
Amy Wax is a tenured professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, where she has taught since 2001, holding the Robert Mundheim Professor of Law chair since 2007. A native of Troy, New York, she earned a B.S. summa cum laude in molecular biophysics and biochemistry from Yale in 1975, a Marshall Scholarship to Oxford, and an M.D. from Harvard Medical School in 1981, where she trained as a neurologist. She completed her J.D. from Columbia Law School in 1987, serving as an editor of the Columbia Law Review. Wax clerked for Judge Abner J. Mikva and argued 15 cases before the U.S. Supreme Court while working in the Office of the Solicitor General. She taught at the University of Virginia School of Law from 1994 to 2001. Her academic work focuses on social welfare law, family policy, and labor markets. In 2024, she was suspended from teaching for one year due to controversial statements, which she challenged in a lawsuit.
Learn more about Amy Wax's work:
https://www.law.upenn.edu/faculty/awax/
https://www.thefire.org/cases/university-pennsylvania-following-controversial-commentary-amy-wax-faces-major-sanction-penn
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Aug 20, 2025 • 1h 47min
Paleoconservatism, America, and the New Right (ft. Paul Gottfried)
Paul Gottfried, editor of Chronicles Magazine, former professor at Elizabethtown College, and author of numerous books, joins Timon and Ben to talk about the history of the conservative movement, what "rights" are, what an American is, and where the New Right is going.
Notes: https://chroniclesmagazine.org/
https://passage.press/products/gottfried
Paul Gottfried is editor in chief of Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture. He is also the Raffensperger Professor of Humanities Emeritus at Elizabethtown College, where he taught for 25 years, a Guggenheim recipient, and a Yale Ph.D. He is the author of 14 books, most recently Antifascism: The Course of a Crusade and Revisions and Dissents.
Learn more about Paul Gottfried's work:
https://chroniclesmagazine.org/author/paulgottfried/
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Aug 14, 2025 • 1h 1min
Everson Must Fall (ft. Timon Cline)
Editors Mike Sabo and Ben Crenshaw interview Timon about his article on why Everson v. Board of Education must be overturned and separation of church and state ended, co-authored with Josh Hammer and Yoram Hazony, in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy.
Notes: https://journals.law.harvard.edu/jlpp/
Timon Cline is the Editor-in-chief of American Reformer. Prior to his appointment as editor-in-chief, he was a deputy attorney general in the Office of the New Jersey Attorney General. He is a graduate of Rutgers Law School and Westminster Theological Seminary, the Director of Scholarly Initiatives at the Hale Institute at New Saint Andrews College, a fellow at the Craig Center at Westminster Theological Seminary, and an opinion contributor at World. His writing has appeared at American Mind, the American Conservative, and Modern Reformation, among others. He is a member of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and lives in Philadelphia with his wife and son.
Learn more about Timon Cline's work:
https://americanreformer.org/about/
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Aug 13, 2025 • 1h 4min
Postliberal Protestants (ft. Hunter Baker)
Hunter Baker, provost and professor at North Greenville University, joins Timon and Josh to talk about his new book, Postliberal Protestants: Baptists Between Obergefell and Christian Nationalism.
Hunter Baker, J.D., Ph.D. serves as provost and dean of the faculty of North Greenville University. He is the author of three books (The End of Secularism, Political Thought: A Student's Guide, and The System Has a Soul), has contributed chapters and forewords to 21 others, and has published over 40 articles and essays. His work has been translated into Italian, Polish, and in the near future, Chinese. He is the winner of the 2011 Michael Novak Award conferred by the Acton Institute and has lectured widely on matters of religion and liberty. In addition to his work at North Greenville, Baker also serves as a contributing editor for Touchstone: A Journal of Mere Christianity and as an associate editor of the Journal of Markets and Morality. He is a fellow of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, the Center for Religion, Culture, and Democracy, and the Land Center for Cultural Engagement. Baker also writes for the popular website World Opinions.
Learn more about Hunter Baker's work:
https://www.ngu.edu/faculty/hunter-baker/
Purchase Dr. Baker's book, "Postliberal Protestants"
https://a.co/d/eQdqpPh
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Aug 5, 2025 • 1h 17min
American Awakening (ft. Joshua Mitchell)
Joshua Mitchell, professor at Georgetown University, joins Timon and Josh for a wide ranging discussion about America, identity politics, and Protestantism.
Joshua Mitchell, PhD. is currently professor of political theory at Georgetown University. He has been Chairman of the Government Department and also Associate Dean of Faculty Affairs at SFS-Q. During the 2008-10 academic years, Dr. Mitchell was took Leave from Georgetown, and was the Acting Chancellor of The American University of Iraq - Sulaimani. His research interest lies in the relationship between political thought and theology in the West. He has published articles in The Review of Politics, The Journal of Politics, The Journal of Religion, APSR, and Political Theory. In 1993 his book, NOT BY REASON ALONE: RELIGION, HISTORY, AND IDENTITY IN EARLY MODERN THOUGHT, was published by the University of Chicago Press. A second book, THE FRAGILITY OF FREEDOM: TOCQUEVILLE ON RELIGION, DEMOCRACY, AND THE AMERICAN FUTURE, was published in 1995, also by the University of Chicago Press. In 2006, PLATO'S FABLE: ON THE MORTAL CONDITION IN SHADOWY TIMES, was published by Princeton University Press. His most recent book, TOCQUEVILLE IN ARABIA: DILEMMAS IN A DEMOCRATIC AGE, was published by the University of Chicago Press in 2013. More recently, he finished a book entitled, AMERICAN AWAKENING: IDENTITY POLITICS AND OTHER AFFLICTIONS OF OUR TIME, to be published shortly by Encounter Books (2020). His next book-length project will be called THE GENTLE SEDUCTION OF TYRANY.
Learn more about Dr. Joshua Mitchell's work:
https://gufaculty360.georgetown.edu/s/contact/00336000014Rh8tAAC/joshua-mitchell
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Jul 28, 2025 • 30min
Teach Them Diligently (ft. Kirk Cameron)
Kirk Cameron joins Timon and Josh to talk about the See You at the Library initiative, America's Christian heritage, culture building, and why teaching our children biblical virtue is essential for national renewal.
Notes: https://bravebooks.us/pages/see-you-at-the-library
Kirk Cameron is known by millions as “Mike Seaver” from the 1980’s sit-com “Growing Pains.” Since then, Kirk starred in “Fireproof” - the #1 inspirational movie of the year and inspired the best-selling book “The Love Dare” - as well as the movies “Left Behind”, “Monumental”, produced his newest film “Lifemark” with the Kendrick Brothers about the value of life in the womb and the beauty of adoption, and produced the documentary “The Homeschool Awakening” about the growing homeschooling movement. Kirk hosts TBN’s television series “Takeaways with Kirk Cameron” and “One on One with Kirk Cameron” and co-hosted the series “The Way of the Master”. Recently, he has been featured in the press, talking about his “American Campfire Revival” livestream, events, and podcast, urging the family of faith to return to the principles that will bring blessing and protection to America. Kirk recently authored the children’s book “As You Grow” that teaches Biblical principles and character
Learn more about Kirk Camera's work:
https://www.kirkcameron.com/
https://bravebooks.us/pages/brave-plus
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Jul 23, 2025 • 1h 1min
Stockholm Syndrome Christianity (ft. John West)
John West, Vice President of the Discovery Institute, joins the show to talk his new book Stockholm Syndrome Christianity. West argues that many Christian leaders and institutions are adopting secularist views and facilitating cultural decline. He cites examples like Andy Stanley's rejection of the Old Testament and Francis Collins's support for LGBTQ+ rights and abortion-related research.
Dr. John West is Vice President and a Senior Fellow at the Seattle-based Discovery Institute, where he also serves as Managing Director of the Institute’s Center for Science & Culture, which he co-founded with philosopher of science Stephen Meyer in 1996. His current research examines the impact of science and “scientism” on public policy and culture. His other areas of expertise include constitutional law, American government and institutions, and religion and politics.
Learn more about John G. West's work:
https://www.discovery.org/p/west/
https://x.com/jgwestdi
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