

The Ramble Refinery with Heather Sager
Heather Sager
You can’t spell message without mess—because big ideas don’t show up fully formed. They start rough, unrefined, and a little all over the place. But that’s not a problem, it’s part of the process.The best speakers, thought leaders, and business owners don’t wait for the perfect message—they refine it by showing up, sharing, and shaping their ideas in real time.That’s what The Ramble Refinery is all about.Welcome to the place where we normalize the messy middle of speaking, marketing, and business growth. Whether you’re leading workshops, speaking on stages, or showing up on podcasts, your voice isn’t just a marketing tool—it’s your most valuable business asset.Hosted by Heather Sager, a speaking coach and business strategist who helps experts get their ideas out of their heads and into the world, this podcast dives into the raw, unpolished side of refining your message, using your voice, and growing your impact.Because every great message starts as a mess—so get ready to ramble.
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Sep 27, 2022 • 47min
Speaker Spotlight: How Penny Took Action on Her Goal of Speaking on Stages (and then won Speaker Slam!)
If you were handed a mic and 5 minutes to share your message, could you do it? Would you be able to distill your story– the things that have made you, YOU, into those few precious moments?That was the exact situation today’s guest was in when she was presented with the opportunity to compete at Speaker Slam. This was a shock even to her, as she has JUST made the decision to finally act on her long time goal of becoming a speaker!In this conversation, she shares her personal journey on how she worked hard to hone her speaking skills and took action to own her dream. We dive into the importance of practicing and getting feedback from peers, how investing in yourself can push you forward to your goals, and most importantly how you can distill your story into one powerful core message that can move your audience.Episode Highlights:Penny’s journey from working on her speaking skills to becoming the winner of Speaker SlamHow investing in yourself (AKA joining in a paid program) can be a real game changer for herImportance of getting feedback from others when you practice your talk Most importantly, how do you distill your talk down into a singular core messageEPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode168/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage. 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Sep 20, 2022 • 41min
10 Stages You Could Be Speaking On Now to Attract Clients
When you have big dreams of speaking on big stage, it can feel a little daunting and out of reach.You keep asking yourself how do I get my message out there while making an impact? How can I start showing up for my people while getting more tangible and relevant results to grow my business?– and that's exactly what we're going to tackle in today's episode.I’ll break down the 10 stages that are available to you RIGHT NOW to speak (some will be familiar, some will be outside the box but ALL of which puts YOU and YOUR MESSAGE in front of MORE PEOPLE.) So if you have a dream of speaking one day and making a bigger impact, let this episode be the fire under your focus and a nudge for you to take action.Episode Highlights:What happens when you don’t speak enough on “stages?”Leveraging your voice to reach and connect more with your ideal clients to help and serve themThe 10 stages you can speak on to attract leads (that are NOT a big conference keynote)Plus how you could be speaking AKA selling right now to grow your online business EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode167/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage. 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Sep 13, 2022 • 1h 8min
Partnership Behind The Scenes: The Making of The Speaker Co
I finally get to introduce you to my new business partner, Emily Hall! She’s a THREE time guest of the show, but this is the first official appearance since announcing The Speaker Co this summer.If you’re like me– super curious and intrigued by what other business owners think about– then you’re going to LOVE this unscripted convo where we take you behind the scenes to how we got here, where we’re going next and what YOU can expect moving forward.EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode166/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage. 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Sep 6, 2022 • 37min
The 5 things I’d Do If I Had to Start Over (Speaking Edition)
If I were to start today from scratch building my online business through speaking there are FIVE core things I’d focus on and today I’m sharing them with you. So whether you’re just getting started with crafting your message or you’re looking to be more effective when you show up— today's episode will help you: intentionally get on the RIGHT stagesput yourself in front of your ideal customersgain credibility & position yourself as an authoritybuild an engaged audience who wants to work with you.And be sure to check out the show notes to swipe my DM pitch script to book your next guest speaking gig or podcast. EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode165/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage. 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Aug 30, 2022 • 49min
5 Ways That Live Video Will Turn You Into A Better Speaker
One of the best ways to get better at public speaking is to do it. But most people only practice when they are in front of a live audience (or are too terrified to get started). Wouldn't it be great if you could practice more often? Or find a low stakes way to build your confidence? Cue: live video.Live video on social media is an unexpectedly useful tool for developing confidence and skill with public speaking. Not to mention video a fire strategy that connects you with your audience.That is why in today’s episode I’m sharing with you the five ways that will help you redefine your leverage live video to become a magnetic speaker on any stage.EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode164/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage. 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Aug 23, 2022 • 51min
Let's Talk About Stage Performance, Storytelling & All Things Speaking with Mike Ganino
This week you’re getting TWO speaking coaches in one episode! For the first time EVER on the show, I’m sharing my mic with my “competitor” to bring you the most amazing conversation on all things speaking, storytelling and the five stage languages YOU must master to become magnetic on stage.You’re going to be obsessed with today’s guest: speaking coach, storytelling and communication expert— Mike Ganino. So whether you're a first time-speaker or a seasoned speaker, this episode is going to make you laugh… and take ALL the notes. I’m advance— you’re so welcome ;) EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode163/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage. 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Aug 16, 2022 • 38min
What Visibility Means and Why It's important for Your Online Business
Visibility is about getting your message seen and heard by the people you want to attract. The more visible your business is, the greater the potential for paying clients.Tune in to find out what you can do today to get traction as I share what visibility is, why it matters for your business and where to NOT waste your time and energy. It may be more important to your business than you think.EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇 https://heathersager.com/episode162/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage. 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Aug 9, 2022 • 22min
I launched a new business
I’m launching a new business 😱 Yep, you read that right! I’ve been hinting at something big for weeks and I can *finally* tell you all about it. I’m merging my business with E+M Creative, forming the Speaker Co.Listen to the full episode as I’ll share with you the story of WHY and WHAT we’re doing and what’s you can expect moving forward🎉 EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇➡️ https://heathersager.com/episode161/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage. 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Aug 1, 2022 • 25min
Why your email list isn't growing (and how to use speaking to accelerate it)
We know that building our email list is important but let’s be real—growing it is never as easy as we'd like it to be especially when we’re trying to grow organically. Tune in on today’s episode as I uncover four specific reasons why your list isn’t growing (and what you should do to get more traction). So if yours is growing painfully slow or worse, it’s been crickets on your list, it could be because you’re making one or more of these mistakes.I hope you enjoy this week’s quick but tangible conversation to help you be more intentional with your strategy and get you results. EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇➡️ https://heathersager.com/episode160/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage. 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Jul 25, 2022 • 43min
How to Nail Your First (or Next) Podcast Interview
Wooooo! You landed a podcast interview—congratulations! Whether this is your first podcast appearance or your 20th, you're probably wondering what you can do to maximize your ‘onstage’ moment and ensure you sound good in the interview! Get ready for this masterclass of an episode! I’m sharing EXACTLY what to do before, during, and after every podcast interview to fully leverage this opportunity for your business. This one is SO good, we created a PDF guide so don’t worry about taking ferocious notes– we got you covered with a checklist that you can use over and over again.EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇➡️ https://heathersager.com/episode159/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage. 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.