
The Ramble Refinery with Heather Sager
You can’t spell message without mess—because big ideas don’t show up fully formed. They start rough, unrefined, and a little all over the place. But that’s not a problem, it’s part of the process.The best speakers, thought leaders, and business owners don’t wait for the perfect message—they refine it by showing up, sharing, and shaping their ideas in real time.That’s what The Ramble Refinery is all about.Welcome to the place where we normalize the messy middle of speaking, marketing, and business growth. Whether you’re leading workshops, speaking on stages, or showing up on podcasts, your voice isn’t just a marketing tool—it’s your most valuable business asset.Hosted by Heather Sager, a speaking coach and business strategist who helps experts get their ideas out of their heads and into the world, this podcast dives into the raw, unpolished side of refining your message, using your voice, and growing your impact.Because every great message starts as a mess—so get ready to ramble.
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Apr 6, 2023 • 54min
How to Dress for Your Brand [Recast]
It's the whispered question that I get asked a LOT.…Working with a coach on an upcoming keynote presentation for a conference of 5000.…An executive for his debut TEDx talk.…A digital course creator for her upcoming masterclass.I even get it when chatting with peers about doing a meet up at a conference."But Heather... what should I wear?"When it comes to showing up as a personal brand, your style should be consistent and intentional. Not only can you become more familiar to your audience, it just does a little somethin' somethin for your swagger when you show up in your power pants.So the question is—are you bringing the best version of you, the most confident version of you? If you want to attract your ideal audience...this is a must.I think we could all use a little nudge in this area. And if that's you, you’ll love today’s episode! We’re doing a waaaaaay back throwback to Episode #3 to encourage you to consider how you're presenting yourself to your audience through your STYLE.Melanie Kluger, a personal stylist and entrepreneur (and also my first ever guest on the podcast) talks about the connection between our style and building a more magnetic personal brand. We're bringing a different way to think about showing up for your brand with confidence and authority by owning your style. Tune in to learn:confidence boosting (and super practical) tips on dressing for a big presentationthe thing that’s sabotaging your morning routinewhy our closet keeps us stalled after life transitions (like changing careers or having kids)how to dress for the work from home (but video ready) life styleplus balancing mom life with business and Instagram story hackEPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode193/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Mar 30, 2023 • 45min
Mastering Your Mindset for Business Success: The 5 Beliefs You Need to Embrace [REMIX]
What is it about those top personalities in your industry that seem to have this natural ability to shine, seemingly effortlessly?You might be over here just trying to keep up with the latest tactics and marketing strategies touted online, that showing up in a big way feels… out of reach.So the question stands, does “success” really come down to tactics? Or is elevating your presence online more about the way in which you show up?In this episode, you’ll hear the 5 incredible breakthroughs that have helped me rise in my career and have helped me skyrocket my business—these are specific beliefs about yourself, others and the worlds around you that must be embraced to break through the noise and find success in business.I am serving you up a recast of an oldie but a goodie episode taken out of my own Hint of Hustle playbook that is filled with tangible lessons and actionable advice to help you be inspired and show up with renewed energy in your life and business.Tune in to hear my thoughts and soak up all the valuable information that's shared in this episode so you can master your mindset for business success.In this episode, you’ll learn:Where to begin so you can grow and build your influenceWhat successful people do to trust themselves and not worry when things go wrongThe secret to getting better plus how you can be seen as an authorityThe 5 specific beliefs aka biggest tangible lesson that successful people perceived (all of these have helped me rise in my career and have helped me skyrocket my business)EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode192/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Mar 23, 2023 • 57min
Building a Business with Intention: How to Stay Focused and Avoid Distractions
In this engaging discussion, listeners will unravel the 'I'm too busy' mindset and how it can hinder progress. The hosts challenge the idea that constant hustle equals success, emphasizing the importance of clear priorities instead. They tackle the pitfalls of public comparison and advocate for authenticity over curated images. Insights on navigating product launches reveal the necessity of clarity and commitment. Finally, the conversation underscores the emotional journey of entrepreneurship, highlighting focus, resilience, and self-care as essential components for success.

Mar 16, 2023 • 23min
Crafting a Signature Talk: Tips for Customizing Your Message to Any Audience
Have you ever wondered how to customize a talk for a different audience? It's a question I get asked all the time.In this episode, I'll share with you the approach I teach my clients to craft and tailor their message. You’ll learn tactical tips on how to expand or contract your talk, and the three levels of engagement that you can use to create a customized engagement activity that resonates with your audience.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why having a signature talk can help establish you as an industry authorityHow to be intentional with your speaking by framing your ideas in a way that connects with both your audience and the hostWhat makes your signature talk so unique Key questions to ask when preparing for speaking opportunities and customizing your talkThe three levels of engagement that will help you fully engage your audience and inspire actionPlus practical tips for customizing your talk for different audiences while staying true to your core messageSo if you're ready to take your speaking to the next level, tune in and discover how to create a signature talk that truly resonates with your audience.EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode190/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Mar 9, 2023 • 48min
Getting Paid To Speak: The Importance of Valuing Your Expertise With Lindsay Rogers
Lindsay Rogers is a former journalist and founder of Raw Strategy where she teaches people to tell stories for a living, yet she found herself facing something relatable: having difficulty figuring out how to tell her own story and how to translate the message in her marketing materials to the stage.That’s why when she was asked to speak, Lindsay raised her hand to join my signature talk program and later on, work 1-on-1 too. Lindsay’s story is proof you don’t need to earn the right to get paid to speak by putting in time on different stages. Instead, she knew she wanted paid speaking as a revenue wheel from the get-go. If you’ve ever wondered if your message or expertise is worthy of earning you money as a paid speaker, tune into this inspiring episode that will have you shooting for the stars.In this episode, Lindsay shares: Why she had to dismantle herself from the inside out to translate written messages to spoken messagesAll the internal junk that popped up, leaving her feeling exposed and how she handled itHow she got paid well to speak right from the beginning Why learning to trust yourself is the key to feeling confident on stageHer experience combatting the curse of knowledge with my Script-ish and bucketizing process Figuring out what to do with her body on stage On-stage moments that made her realize she was doing the thing she was meant to doHow one talk led to $100,000 in the last year EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode189/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Mar 2, 2023 • 49min
The Results Of Practicing Your Signature Talk In Public Over 200 Times With Liz Wilcox
Liz Wilcox is the Fresh Princess of Email and a keynote speaker, a former client of mine who built her signature talk in my program.She’s got a big vision in mind, but she’s flexible about how she’s going to get there. Right now, Liz focuses on building towards that future one talk at a time. Because each talk she gives is an opportunity to connect with another person, build a new relationship and share her expertise to people who need it.Over the last 12 months, Liz has spoken on over 100 stages, and as she says, “Baby, I’m taking over the internet!”. It’s true. Liz has used her talks to share her framework for making email marketing fun (and profitable) and as a result has added hundreds of people to her email marketing membership.So, if you’ve ever wondered what speaking can do for your business, or you’ve had doubts that a signature talk can be used over and over again…this is the episode for you. In this episode, Liz shares: The atypical launch results that illuminated her gift for email marketing and made her realize she had a message people needed to hearWhy she decided speaking was the best way to make a bigger impact How her personal circumstances gave her no choice but to push past ‘head junk’ and speak even when though she still breaks out in a rashHer thoughts on why talent will only get you so far and how Michael Jordan inspired her to get disciplined with her speaking practiceThe simple ways she tweaks her signature talk and Why her signature talk is still relevant over three years later EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode188/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Feb 23, 2023 • 55min
Hot Take: I Failed, Publicly and Here’s What I Learned
In August, I merged my speaker coaching business with Emily Hall’s presentation design agency… and last week we announced our decision to untangle ourselves back to separate companies. I won’t try to hide it – it’s been an emotionally difficult few weeks, but we’re both super optimistic (and still BFFs). In this episode, I'm getting real, raw and vulnerable as I share with my the behind the scenes that lead to this decision, what I’ve learned along the way and a message to remind you that when you learn to change and adapt with purpose, you’ll become even stronger.Episode Highlights:Elephant in the room: let’s talk about my business failure highlight reel (Ugh! I can't help but cringe at the memory)Messy conversations in business—learn how you can courageously lean into this and serve you wellUntangling my business partnership— why we’re going back to solo entitiesA peak at what’s to come in this now solo chapter of The Speaker Co, including the WHY behind my new program, Signature Talk AcceleratorEPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode187/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Feb 16, 2023 • 45min
Sound Polished & Professional When You Speak
The way you communicate impacts how others perceive you and your business.When you sound polished and professional, you’re seen as knowledgeable, trustworthy and confident – which establishes your credibility and helps you attract new clients.And poor communication skills are COSTLY because when others don’t understand what you do and how you can help them, they certainly won’t buy from you. That’s why raising your level of awareness and being intentional on how you communicate with your words, with your tone and with your body language is critical– and that’s what this episode is all about.Today I deep dive on the common mistakes I see so many entrepreneurs making when trying to elevate the level of polish and professionalism with how they speak and more importantly, how to correct it. I also share some power tips + activities you can do (plus a heck of a lot more!) that will help you raise your level of confidence to create a bigger impact on your business.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why communication skills are paramount in your businessFormality vs Professionalism: two terms that are often used interchangeablyThe Power of PracticeUnderstanding polish and professionalism and how it boils down to three communication buckets (and the mistakes that happen when you elevate your polish and professionalism) Plus power tips + game-changer activity(you're gonna hate and love me for this!) you can do to become a better communicatorEPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode186/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Feb 9, 2023 • 53min
4 Strategies That Will Amplify Your Results from Stages in 2023
Stages are the BEST way in 2023 to accelerate your authority, build trust and generate HOT leads who want to pay you (not just download your free stuff).Now, does that mean that you should chase all of these stages and say YES to every opportunity? Heck no. While booking more stages could get you bigger results— the reality is it’s what you DO with those opportunities that matters most. So the question is — what do YOU do when you have the mic?In this episode, I dive into how you can show up intentionally and serve your audience well. Plus my fav strategies that I see as the biggest opportunity for 2023. You’ll learn:Redefining what a stage is and why it’s so critical to double down and create your own stage this yearThe different phases of the buyer’s journey and how it circles back to creating your own stage opportunitiesHow do you make the most of your on stage momentsPlus 4 strategies that can help you reimagine your mic moments in 2023EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode185/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.

Feb 2, 2023 • 49min
Courage & Confidence: How Kristine Richer Built Her Business Under the Stars
Putting the work upfront allowed this guest to create a business that fueled her passion.Meet my friend, mastermind buddy and award-winning photographer, Kristine Richer. She made the leap to full time online teaching in 2020 and has now taught thousands of students how to create stunning images of the Milky Way. The one in the sky, not the candy bar ;)In this episode, Kristine shares how she hustled through her twenties to establish her career to now running a business that literally fuels her creative gifts.I think you’ll find this to be a truly inspiring episode, so let’s jump in! In this episode, Kristine shares;How she develop her expertise and why did she pivot into online businessDoing launches in her business and innovating this (if you hate live launching—you gotta listen to what she said!)Putting in the hard work to create the life and the business that she wanted— discover Kristine’s secret recipe for what she embraces both from an attitude and skill perspective Her relationship with the word hustle, how it evolved—learn her advice for other business owners who are trying to navigate a season of hustleHow to get more confident and comfortable in putting yourself out there and finally take that courageous leapEPISODE SHOW NOTES👇https://heathersager.com/episode184/Send us a textSupport the show🔗 Grab the latest FREE resources: https://heathersager.com/start 🔗 Browse all episode shownotes: https://heathersager.com/blog 👋 CONNECT WITH HEATHER:Work with Heather: https://www.heathersager.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheathersager/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/HeatherSagerIf you’re loving this episode, please take a moment to rate & review the show. This helps me get this message to more people so they too can ditch the hustle 24/7 life.