

Water Values Podcast
Dave McGimpsey
The Water Values Podcast series is presented in collaboration with Bluefield Research. This podcast series explores water issues from a variety of perspectives with the goal of uncovering the true value of water. Each episode will delve into one aspect of water, such as water utilities, water treatment, water resources, water reuse, and more.
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Mar 17, 2020 • 38min
Challenges with and Innovations in Small Utility Systems
Austin Thompson of the University of North Carolina’s Environmental Finance Center joins us to discuss challenges with and innovations in small utility systems. Austin tackles the primary issues and challenges faced by smaller systems and informs us of some innovations taking place in smaller systems that are making a positive impact.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
The primary challenges smaller systems face
How small systems deal with big capital needs and a small customer base
How small systems deal with water quality challenges
How topography presents challenges for smaller systems
How populations density impacts smaller systems
Some of the strategies to address these challenges
How water kiosks help small systems
How topography challenges created an innovative energy production opportunity for a small system
The role training plays in providing innovations to smaller systems
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Austin’s bio page on the UNC EFC website
UNC EFC’s website
Appalachian Regional Commission website
TWV #047: The Ups and Downs of Environmental Finance with Jeff Hughes
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Mar 3, 2020 • 51min
Private Equity in the Water Sector with Cimbria Capital
Brian Iversen, founder and managing partner of Cimbria Capital, pulls back the curtain on private equity in the water sector in this fascinating episode. Plus, Reese Tisdale joins us for another Bluefield on Tap session talking pipe materials and plastics. Settle in for a great episode!
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Why Brian believes the water sector is ripe for investment
The role of growth capital/private equity capital in fostering water-related businesses
Brian’s take on the current state of the water sector
How the water sector is a commodity driven market with upstream, downstream and midstream components
The difference between private equity and venture capital & why venture capital doesn’t work as well as private equity in the water sector
Why Brian believes investors are still trying to figure the water sector out
Why Brian believes management teams and business models are key elements of water sector investing
Brian’s thoughts on impact investing, ESG & resiliency investing
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Brian’s LinkedIn page
Cimbria Capital’s website
Brian’s bio on the Cimbria Capital website
Florida Drilling website
AMI Global website
TWV #105: Investing in Water with Bill Brennan
TWV #045: Water Sector Investing with Jud Hill
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Mar 3, 2020 • 51min
Private Equity in the Water Sector with Cimbria Capital
Brian Iversen, founder and managing partner of Cimbria Capital, pulls back the curtain on private equity in the water sector in this fascinating episode. Plus, Reese Tisdale joins us for another Bluefield on Tap session talking pipe materials and plastics. Settle in for a great episode!
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Why Brian believes the water sector is ripe for investment
The role of growth capital/private equity capital in fostering water-related businesses
Brian’s take on the current state of the water sector
How the water sector is a commodity driven market with upstream, downstream and midstream components
The difference between private equity and venture capital & why venture capital doesn’t work as well as private equity in the water sector
Why Brian believes investors are still trying to figure the water sector out
Why Brian believes management teams and business models are key elements of water sector investing
Brian’s thoughts on impact investing, ESG & resiliency investing
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Brian’s LinkedIn page
Cimbria Capital’s website
Brian’s bio on the Cimbria Capital website
Florida Drilling website
AMI Global website
TWV #105: Investing in Water with Bill Brennan
TWV #045: Water Sector Investing with Jud Hill
Thank You!
Thanks to each of you for listening and spreading the word about The Water Values Podcast! Keep the emails coming and please rate and review The Water Values Podcast on iTunes and Stitcher if you haven’t done so already. And don’t forget to tell your friends about the podcast and whatever you do, don’t forget to join The Water Values mailing list!

Feb 18, 2020 • 40min
Workforce Development for Water Utilities
Khris Dodson of Syracuse University’s Environmental Finance Center discusses a wide range of workforce development issues for water utilities. Khris identifies the problems with utility workforce development and also delves into potential solutions. It’s a great and important episode.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
What the biggest job needs are for water utilities
Strategies to develop the skilled trades
Why our culture doesn’t value the skilled trades highly enough
How to align skill sets and geographical barriers with workforce needs
Why more attention needs to be paid to retention strategies
Compensation issues
How utility rates impact the workforce
Keys to succession planning for the utility workforce
What the anticipated impact of artificial intelligence, machine learning and the internet of things might be
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Khris’ LinkedIn page
EFC Network website
Syracuse EFC website
TWV #039: Serving Water For People and Utility Employment Opportunities with Connecticut Water CEO Eric Thornburg
TWV #036: Water Utility Acquisition Issues and Utility Industry Gender Issues with Utilities Inc. President Lisa Sparrow
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Feb 18, 2020 • 40min
Workforce Development for Water Utilities
Khris Dodson of Syracuse University’s Environmental Finance Center discusses a wide range of workforce development issues for water utilities. Khris identifies the problems with utility workforce development and also delves into potential solutions. It’s a great and important episode.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
What the biggest job needs are for water utilities
Strategies to develop the skilled trades
Why our culture doesn’t value the skilled trades highly enough
How to align skill sets and geographical barriers with workforce needs
Why more attention needs to be paid to retention strategies
Compensation issues
How utility rates impact the workforce
Keys to succession planning for the utility workforce
What the anticipated impact of artificial intelligence, machine learning and the internet of things might be
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Khris’ LinkedIn page
EFC Network website
Syracuse EFC website
TWV #039: Serving Water For People and Utility Employment Opportunities with Connecticut Water CEO Eric Thornburg
TWV #036: Water Utility Acquisition Issues and Utility Industry Gender Issues with Utilities Inc. President Lisa Sparrow
Thank You!
Thanks to each of you for listening and spreading the word about The Water Values Podcast! Keep the emails coming and please rate and review The Water Values Podcast on iTunes and Stitcher if you haven’t done so already. And don’t forget to tell your friends about the podcast and whatever you do, don’t forget to join The Water Values mailing list!

Feb 4, 2020 • 51min
TWDB Chairman Peter Lake Talks Texas Water
Texas Water Development Board (TWDB) Chairman Peter Lake joins us to discuss water infrastructure financing in Texas and more. Chairman Lake provides a wide-ranging interview showcasing his knowledge on water infrastructure finance, risk and creditworthiness assessment, opportunities for private capital, water markets, and much, much more.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Pete’s background and how a finance expert wound up on the TWDB
TWDB’s SWIFT Program (State Water Implementation Fund for Texas)
The TWDB’s regional planning process for water supply
Issues in marketing TWDB’s $1 billion bond portfolio to investors
Water & its relationship with economic development and the business community
Why institutional investors look for positive stories, needed services and creditworthiness when assessing an investment
TWDB’s programs assessing borrower creditworthiness and implementing post-loan compliance
The increasing role of climate risk and the importance of local participation in climate planning
P3s & investment portfolios and the relationship with regulatory risk and technology risk
Two examples of opportunities where private capital might be leveraged to create value in water supply by lowering technology and regulatory risk
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Pete’s LinkedIn page
Pete’s Twitter handle: @twdb_peter
Texas Water Development Board website
TWDB’s SWIFT homepage
Slaking Texas’ Thirst with Carlos Rubinstein
Thank You!
Thanks to each of you for listening and spreading the word about The Water Values Podcast! Keep the emails coming and please rate and review The Water Values Podcast on iTunes and Stitcher if you haven’t done so already. And don’t forget to tell your friends about the podcast and whatever you do, don’t forget to join The Water Values mailing list!

Feb 4, 2020 • 51min
TWDB Chairman Peter Lake Talks Texas Water
Texas Water Development Board (TWDB) Chairman Peter Lake joins us to discuss water infrastructure financing in Texas and more. Chairman Lake provides a wide-ranging interview showcasing his knowledge on water infrastructure finance, risk and creditworthiness assessment, opportunities for private capital, water markets, and much, much more.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Pete’s background and how a finance expert wound up on the TWDB
TWDB’s SWIFT Program (State Water Implementation Fund for Texas)
The TWDB’s regional planning process for water supply
Issues in marketing TWDB’s $1 billion bond portfolio to investors
Water & its relationship with economic development and the business community
Why institutional investors look for positive stories, needed services and creditworthiness when assessing an investment
TWDB’s programs assessing borrower creditworthiness and implementing post-loan compliance
The increasing role of climate risk and the importance of local participation in climate planning
P3s & investment portfolios and the relationship with regulatory risk and technology risk
Two examples of opportunities where private capital might be leveraged to create value in water supply by lowering technology and regulatory risk
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Pete’s LinkedIn page
Pete’s Twitter handle: @twdb_peter
Texas Water Development Board website
TWDB’s SWIFT homepage
Slaking Texas’ Thirst with Carlos Rubinstein
Thank You!
Thanks to each of you for listening and spreading the word about The Water Values Podcast! Keep the emails coming and please rate and review The Water Values Podcast on iTunes and Stitcher if you haven’t done so already. And don’t forget to tell your friends about the podcast and whatever you do, don’t forget to join The Water Values mailing list!

Jan 26, 2020 • 47min
Troubled Water
Seth Siegel, a New York Times best-selling author renowned for his insights on water scarcity, dives into pressing issues surrounding America's drinking water in his latest book. He shares how his journey from advertising to advocating for sustainable water management was sparked by a pivotal moment. The discussion unveils the inefficiencies in water governance, calling out the failures of regulation and the fragmented nature of water management. Siegel also explores the need for consolidation among utilities to ensure safer drinking water and highlights the public health implications of contaminated supplies.

Jan 26, 2020 • 47min
Troubled Water
New York Timesbest-selling author Seth Siegel joins The Water Values Podcast to discuss his most recent book, Troubled Water: What’s Wrong with What We Drink.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Seth’s background and awakening to the water sector
Why Seth chose to write a book on our water systems
Seth’s conceptualization of the water governance problem
Why Seth believes government does a poor job of regulating government
Seth’s multi-faceted solution to the water governance problem
Seth’s history of how municipal ownership became the dominant water utility model
How consolidation will help address the problems with our utilities
How to convert safe drinking water from an environmental issue into a public health issues
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Seth’s bio on his website
Seth’s homepage on his website
Seth’s Twitter Handle: @SethMSiegel
Troubled Wateron amazon.com
TWV 006: Why Do We Drink Bottled Water? With Prof. Jim Salzman
Thank You!
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Jan 7, 2020 • 45min
Moonshot Missions & the Modules that Can Optimize Utilities
After 100 episodes since his last appearance, George Hawkins joins The Water Values Podcast and discusses his work with Moonshot Missions. After filling us in on the 2 years since his departure from DC Water, George details specific examples of how utilities with challenging circumstances can optimize different aspects of their systems by adopting the modules prepared by Moonshot Missions. George asserts that the trillions of estimated utility capex spend is overinflated and identifies ways utilities can achieve more with less. As with every interview George does, this is a can’t miss episode.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
George’s voluntary departure from DC Water
Why George started Moonshot Missions
The for profit and the not-for-profit arms of Moonshot Missions
How the not-for-profit Moonshot Missions helps struggling utilities
The utilities eligible for help from the not-for-profit Moonshot Missions arm
Why George thinks the estimated trillions of utility capex spend is overinflated
The low-hanging fruit for utilities to improve operational, financial and environmental performance
The role of non-revenue water in improving utility performance
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
George Hawkins’ email: George at MoonshotMissions dot org
George Hawkins’ LinkedIn profile
Moonshot Missions’ website
George Hawkins’ Twitter Handle
TWV #060: Change Leadership with DC Water CEO George Hawkins
Thank You!
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