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Friday, 10/25 at 6pm PT / 9pm ET join us for a livestreamed forum with Paul Street, Andy Zee and Sam Goldman, The 2024 Elections: The Future Hangs In the Balance, sponsored by Refuse Fascism and The RNL - Revolution Nothing Less - Show. Follow @RefuseFascism on social media to tune in and send your questions ahead of time to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org. This episode is in response to the (very belated) warnings coming from Democratic Party and military leaders that Trump is (in the words of Trump's former top general Mark Milley) "a fascist to the core." By popular demand! Get your Refuse Fascism T-Shirt here:⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bonfire.com/refuse-fascism-pod-shirt⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about Refuse Fascism and get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Find us on all the socials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Plus, Sam is on TikTok, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@samgoldmanrf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Featuring: Jeff Sharlet - Episode 31 (11/29/20) Jason Stanley - Episode 20 (10/4/20) Michael Coard - Episode 12 (8/9/20) Coco Das - Episode 54 (4/11/21) Walden Bello - Episode 61 (5/30/21) Thomas Zimmer - Episode 92 (1/2/22) Annika Brockschmidt - Episode 103 (3/20/22) Andy Zee - Episode 32 (12/10/20) Federico Finchelstein - Episode 49 (3/7/21) Jared Yates Sexton - Episode 6 (6/28/20) Henry Giroux - Episode 42 (1/24/21) Anthony DiMaggio - Episode 108 (4/24/22) Wajahat Ali - Episode 140 (12/31/22) Anthea Butler - Episode 91 (12/26/21) Bradley Onishi - Episode 140 (12/31/22) Dahlia Lithwick - Episode 91 (12/26/21) Ruth Ben Ghiat - Episode 3 (6/7/20) Umair Haque - Episode 48 (2/28/21) Jeff Sharlet - Episode 150 (3/26/23) Jared Yates Sexton - Episode 91 (12/26/21) Brynn Tannehill - Episode 57 (5/2/21) Thomas Zimmer - Episode 92 (1/2/22) Wendy Via - Episode 179 (11/19/23)

One month to go before the election, what's happening? Elon + X going all out to get Trump back in power, mass deportation plans, nakedly Nazi justifications for those horrific plans, voter rolls being purged, multiple climate-change fueled storms pummeling the southeast with storms of disinformation and death threats against meteorologists following, and more. The new apostolic march on Washington this past week called this election "America's last stand" - Sam discusses all this, then talks with Nick Quested, the filmmaker who embedded himself with the Proud Boys for the new documentary 64 Days (64daysfilm.com), which covers the period from the November 2020 election to the January 6, 2021 insurrection. Mentioned in this episode: Mike Hixenbaugh: Christians flock to Washington to pray for America to turn to God — by electing Trump Matthew Taylor's notes on the New Apostolic "Million Women March" Shane Goldmacher: Trump and Republicans Bet Big on Anti-Trans Ads Across the Country Charlie Wardell: I'm Running Out of Ways to Explain How Bad This Is (What’s happening in America today is something darker than a misinformation crisis.) Melissa Gira Grant: DeSantis Won't Let Hurricanes Disrupt His Attack on Abortion Rights Myah Ward: We watched 20 Trump rallies. His racist, anti-immigrant messaging is getting darker. Musk Is Going All In to Elect Trump. Tierney Sneed: Biden administration sues Virginia over voter purge program By popular demand! Get your Refuse Fascism T-Shirt here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bonfire.com/refuse-fascism-pod-shirt⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about Refuse Fascism and get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Find us on all the socials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Plus, Sam is on TikTok, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@samgoldmanrf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

As we enter the final month before the November 2024 presidential election, Sam recaps recent developments including Jack Smith's recent court filing detailing the 2020 Trump coup attempt, the fascist disinformation campaign that is actively harming people in need of help and accurate information in the wake of Hurricane Helene while somehow blaming Democrats and more than anything, immigrants, for this climate-fueled destruction, and of course the "eyeliner on a pig" fascism on display during the Walz/Vance debate. These recent developments set the stage for another heavy conversation about the parallels between Trump's rhetoric and the broader fascist movements plans for mass deportation and "one really violent hour" to Kristallnacht, the Nazi-led pogrom that marked a key turning point in the Holocaust. To discuss this she speaks with Zoltán Grossman, author of Lessons of Kristallnacht, “Civil War,” and Mass Deportation. Dr. Grossman is Professor of Geography and Native American and Indigenous Studies, The Evergreen State College, Olympia, Washington. Read more of his work at sites.evergreen.edu/zoltan. Mentioned in this episode: As election threats rise, Justice Dept. says its options are limited Trump, The Purge, Black Nazis and the Language of Apocalyptic Lies and Violence Relevant Episodes: Combatting Disinformation Chaos Comes Calling with Sasha Abramsky Fascist Riots in the UK, Fascist Plots in the US Don't forget: this month's Patron discussion is happening next week: October 13 at 3pm ET / 12pm PT. Be sure to watch the War Game film ahead of time: ⁠wargamefilm.com⁠ and register for the Zoom at ⁠patreon.com/refusefascism. By popular demand! Get your Refuse Fascism T-Shirt here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bonfire.com/refuse-fascism-pod-shirt⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about Refuse Fascism and get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Find us on all the socials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Plus, Sam is on TikTok, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@samgoldmanrf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Sam discusses the cruel and nakedly fascist “mass deportation” plank of both Project 2025 and the official GOP platform. Then, she talks with Dr. Alberto Toscano, author of Late Fascism: Race, Capitalism and the Politics of Crisis. Robin D. G. Kelley writes: "Late Fascism is brilliant, incisive, and right on time. We are living through a moment when the "F" word is no longer taboo and the threat of fascism lurks everywhere. And yet, so mired in debates over definitions, typologies, and analogies that our understanding of fascism remains elusive. Alberto Toscano avoids this trap by turning to anti-fascist thinkers, whose groundings in anticolonial, antiracist, and anticapitalist struggles remind us that liberalism is no enemy of fascism, and fascists flower in the hot house of capitalism." Follow Dr. Toscano's work at sfu.ca and read his articles at inthesetimes.com. Patrons! This month's discussion has been rescheduled to October 13 at 3pm ET / 12pm PT. Details are on Patreon - be sure to watch the War Game film ahead of time: wargamefilm.com. Mentioned In This Episode: Who’s Nazi Now? The Dangerous U.S. War on Immigrants The Violent Take It by Force: The Christian Movement That Is Threatening Our Democracy Thread by Matthew Taylor about JD Vance hosted by Lance Wallnau Trump leans into anti-immigrant rants and Harris barbs at Wisconsin rally Recommended Resources: ‘Infested,’ ‘Bloodbath, ‘Vermin’: A Guide to Trump’s Fascist Rhetoric How Project 2025 Became Toxic and Exposed the Right’s Toxicity JD Vance Speaks At Event Hosted By ‘Apostle’ Who Accused Kamala Harris of ‘Witchcraft’ How Politicians Made the Border Even More Dangerous for Asylum-Seekers By popular demand! Get your Refuse Fascism T-Shirt here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bonfire.com/refuse-fascism-pod-shirt⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about Refuse Fascism and get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Find us on all the socials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Plus, Sam is on TikTok, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@samgoldmanrf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Sam recaps recent developments including the escalating impact on the community of Springfield, Ohio from JD Vance’s Hitlerian lies about immigrants there, the Republican Party that is made up of “Black Nazis” like Mark Robinson, the fascist organizing at the level of the Georgia state election board to find ways to throw the election to Trump in November, plus the heartbreaking stories that are starting to come out as maternal mortality review committees uncover cases of women who did not need to die but were denied life-saving abortion care because of bans in their states post-Dobbs. Then, she talks with Josh Cowen, author of The Privateers: How Billionaires Created a Culture War and Sold School Vouchers, about the anti-public school movement which is a key plank of Project 2025 and Agenda 47; who is behind this movement and what their true aims and the actual outcomes are. Follow Josh’s work at @joshcowenMSU and josh-cowen.com and order the book here. Mentioned in this episode: Labelling Trump’s lies as ‘disputed’ on X makes supporters believe them more, study finds Only in America: Mark Robinson's Politics of National Psychosis by John Ganz Network of Georgia election officials strategizing to undermine 2024 result by Justin Glawe Election-Deniers' Georgia Scheme Is Going Exactly According To Plan by Charles Pierce Georgia election board requires poll workers to hand count ballots in November by April Rubin Right-wing media cheer as MAGA election board causes chaos in Georgia by Courtney Hagle Abortion Bans Have Delayed Emergency Medical Care. In Georgia, Experts Say This Mother’s Death Was Preventable. by Kavitha Surana Afraid to Seek Care Amid Georgia’s Abortion Ban, She Stayed at Home and Died Amber Nicole Thurman’s Death Was Preventable Investigation links Georgia’s abortion ban to preventable deaths of 2 women By popular demand! Get your Refuse Fascism T-Shirt here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bonfire.com/refuse-fascism-pod-shirt⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about Refuse Fascism and get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Find us on all the socials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Plus, Sam is on TikTok, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@samgoldmanrf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Sam recaps recent events including the lynch mob atmosphere being whipped up against immigrants in general and Black Haitian immigrants in particular after white supremacists in Ohio started vicious lies against Haitians. These lies have been further amplified by J.D. Vance and Donald Trump including from the national debate stage with Kamala Harris this past week.  Unfortunately these recent events couldn’t be more timely alongside this week’s discussion with Sasha Abramsky, author of the new book Chaos Comes Calling: The Battle Against the Far-Right Takeover of Small-Town America. From Eric Klinenberg :“In this chilling report from the American West, Abramsky shows how the extreme right has mobilized to upend local democratic institutions and warns of a fascist threat that’s alarmingly close and widespread. A disturbing, necessary book.” ⁠Order the book here now.⁠ Follow Sasha on X-Twitter at ⁠@abramskysasha⁠ and learn more about his work at ⁠sashaabramsky.com⁠ and ⁠thenation.com⁠ Related episodes:  ⁠The Freedom to Dominate with Jefferson Cowie⁠ ⁠“White Rural Rage” with Tom Schaller⁠ ⁠The White Power Movement in 2024⁠ By popular demand! Get your Refuse Fascism T-Shirt here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bonfire.com/refuse-fascism-pod-shirt⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about Refuse Fascism and get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Find us on all the socials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Plus, Sam is on TikTok, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@samgoldmanrf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Sam recaps recent events and then talks with Paul Street about the GOP's unfolding plans to suppress the vote, intimidate their opposition (including by raiding extremely mainstream activists in Texas with LULAC [The League of Latin American Citizens] and sending police to the homes of people signing pro-abortion rights petitions in Florida), and unleash violence at multiple levels should Trump be declared the loser in November. In response to all this the Democrats are celebrating... the addition of Dick Cheney to their "big tent." Paul writes, "The nation is careening to some kind of constitutional crisis and potential major civil conflict after the next election. Anarchic US capitalism-imperialism has hatched a two-party system whose right-/Reich-most wing no longer accepts defeat through mere elections, no matter how tilted to the right the nation’s electoral rules are... [and yet] There is liberating opportunity as well as eliminationist and authoritarian menace in the current perilous moment." Follow Paul Street's writings at ⁠paulstreet.substack.com⁠. By popular demand! Get your Refuse Fascism T-Shirt here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bonfire.com/refuse-fascism-pod-shirt⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Mentioned In This Episode: Is Trump Building an Army of Modern Blackshirts? by Bob Dreyfuss Dispatch on American Political Dystopia by Paul Street Want to Call Trump an F-Word? by Paul Street Two Essays and One Interview by Paul Street Democracy Needs The Loser by Barbara F. Walter The Election Story Nobody Wants to Talk About Rick Perlstein Q&A With David Neiwert Revolution Number 78 by Bob Avakian Ep 187 of the Refuse Fascism Podcast: The White Power Movement in 2024 Ep 196 of the Refuse Fascism Podcast: Fascism On Trial With Anthony DiMaggio and Henry Giroux Ep 198 of the Refuse Fascism Podcast: Constitutional Sheriffs, Militias, and Other Local Fascist Initiatives Find out more about Refuse Fascism and get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Find us on all the socials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Plus, Sam is on TikTok, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@samgoldmanrf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Sam talks with returning guest Annika Brockschmidt about the ideology that binds Trump's GOP. Brockschmidt is a trained historian, author and journalist. She wrote two bestselling books on the history of the US religious right and the Republican Party. Follow Annika on BlueSky. German-speaking audiences can read her latest book Die Brandstifter: Wie Extremisten die Republikanische Partei übernahmen and listen to her on the two podcasts she hosts Kreuz und Flagge and Feminist Shelf Control. Mentioned In The Interview: The GOP Is Saying the Quiet Part Out Loud by Annika Brockschmidt Coverage of NATCON for Religion Dispatches by Annika Brockschmidt and Ben Lober Related Episodes: Bad Faith: Christian Nationalism's Unholy War on Democracy Fascism Isn't Just a German Problem Rick Perlstein: The Infernal Triangle + Christian Nationalist Project 2025 The Evangelical Prophets Anointing Trump By popular demand! Get your Refuse Fascism T-Shirt here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bonfire.com/refuse-fascism-pod-shirt⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about Refuse Fascism and get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Find us on all the socials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Plus, Sam is on TikTok, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@samgoldmanrf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Photo copyright for Annika Brockshchmidt is Frederike Wetzels

Sam discusses the joy fest during the DNC and the growing gulf between those who think you can stop fascism in the US while still enabling a genocide in Gaza, and those who think that is completely incompatible. Cheers to all the protesters at the DNC for telling the truth this past week. Follow @uncommittedmvmt on TikTok for the voices clipped in today's episode. Then, she talks with Stephen Eisenman, Professor Emeritus of Art History at Northwestern University. He has a forthcoming book out with artist collaborator Sue Coe titled The Young Person’s Illustrated Guide to American Fascism (⁠available in October; preorder now⁠). Eisenman is also the author of numerous articles and nine books including The Abu Ghraib Effect and The Ecology of Impressionism. Eisenman is also a curator, critic, activist and co-founder of the environmental non-profit, Anthropocene Alliance. He is a regular contributor to the online publication CounterPunch. View Sue Coe's artwork at suecoe.com and follow her on Instagram at @suecoeart. Mentioned in this episode: Celebrating at the DNC in a Time of Genocide by Adam Johnson (The Nation) Ep 212 The GOP, Netanyahu and Jewish Safety Ep. 210 The War on Women & The Genocide in Gaza Ep 202 Perspectives on Stopping Fascism Ep 200 This American Fascism: A Retrospective By popular demand! Get your Refuse Fascism T-Shirt here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bonfire.com/refuse-fascism-pod-shirt⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about Refuse Fascism and get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Find us on all the socials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Plus, Sam is on TikTok, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@samgoldmanrf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

This week, Sam discusses recent developments including Project 2025 Phase 2, the efforts of Republi-Fascists to subvert elections and the Democratic National Convention's approach to combating fascism (is it weird or is it fascism?). She then welcomes Sian Norris back on the show to discuss the fascist riots in the UK that targeted asylum seekers and Muslims following a lethal mass stabbing in Southport England. Sian Norris is a senior investigative reporter at openDemocracy (read her work here) and author of Bodies Under Siege: How the Far-Right Attack on Reproductive Rights Went Global. You can follow Sian on X @sianunshka. Mentioned In This Episode: Great Replacement & boogaloo: The ideology driving the modern far right by Sian Norris US air force avoids PFAS water cleanup, citing supreme court’s Chevron ruling by Tom Perkins Undercover in Project 2025 by Tom Costello and Lawrence Carter (Centre for Climate Reporting) Inside Project 2025’s Secret Training Videos by Andy Kroll and Nick Surgey These Swing State Election Officials Are Pro-Trump Election Deniers by Justin Glawe 'A different level than 2020’: Trump’s plan to steal election is taking shape by Sam Levine Get Ready Now: Republicans Will Refuse to Certify a Harris Win by A.B. Stoddard More Resources: ⁠Trump and His MAGA Movement Are Actively ‘Hijacking’ Georgia’s Elections by Justin Glawe⁠ ⁠MAGA Election Deniers Are Going All Out to Rig Georgia for Trump by Ari Berman⁠ By popular demand! Get your Refuse Fascism T-Shirt here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠bonfire.com/refuse-fascism-pod-shirt⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about Refuse Fascism and get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Find us on all the socials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Plus, Sam is on TikTok, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@samgoldmanrf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/RefuseFascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠