

Refuse Fascism
Refuse Fascism
The Refuse Fascism podcast is an independent and all-volunteer show that produces weekly episodes that expose, analyze, and oppose the very real danger and threat of fascism coming to power in the United States.
Hosted by Sam Goldman, produced by volunteers with Refuse Fascism.
Hosted by Sam Goldman, produced by volunteers with Refuse Fascism.
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Mar 21, 2021 • 44min
Andy Zee: The Relationship between Fascism and Capitalism-Imperialism
Sam Goldman interviews Andy Zee, host of The RNL Show on YouTube and a co-founder of RefuseFascism.org, to talk about the statement released this January by revolutionary leader Bob Avakian: A New Year, The Urgent Need For A Radically New World—For The Emancipation Of All Humanity.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.

Mar 14, 2021 • 1h 8min
Susan Neiman & Daryle Lamont Jenkins: Learning from the Past to Chart the Future
It's the 50th episode!
We started the podcast this past summer; the week millions began to pour into the streets rebelling against white supremacy and demanding justice for George Floyd. When we began a fascist regime was tightening its grip on society; we called the podcast "Inside With #OutNow" as the movement to get these fascists out became all the more urgent.
Since then, we've covered Trump's refusal to wear a mask as a signal to fascism and other forms of fascist propaganda, the white supremacy, xenophobia and misogyny that is the core of this fascism, Trump’s death cult, the Christian Fascist movement and its embrace of Trump, American exceptionalism and American mythology; faith, resistance and complicity under fascism. We've shared voices from the frontlines: from Portland and LA to North Carolina and the suburbs of Chicago, and overall the need to stop fascism and organizing methods to mobilize all who can be united against it. Throughout all of this we have mobilized people to act in the name of humanity.
Thanks to all the amazing guests of the show as well as all of YOU listening, sharing and commenting. Donate this week and help us reach more people and do more... All donors who give $50 for this milestone will receive a beautiful Humanity enamel pin as a thank you (if you provide your address).
This week, Sam Goldman interviews Susan Neiman, director of the Einstein Forum in Germany and author of Learning from the Germans: Confronting Race and the Memory of Evil and Daryle Lamont Jenkins, Executive Director of One People's Project. Follow Daryle on Twitter @DLamontJenkins.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.

Mar 7, 2021 • 31min
Fascist Lies with Federico Finchelstein
Sam Goldman interviews Federico Finchelstein, Professor of History at the New School for Social Research and Eugene Lang College and Director of the Janey Program in Latin American Studies at NSSR. Dr. Finchelstein is the author of seven books on fascism, populism, Dirty Wars, the Holocaust and Jewish history in Latin America and Europe. His latest book is A Brief History of Fascist Lies and you can follow him on Twitter @FinchelsteinF.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.

Mar 1, 2021 • 47min
Umair Haque: "If you don't call it fascism..."
Sam Goldman interviews Umair Haque, Founder & Editor of Eudaimonia and Co, Bad Words, a book of nights, Leadership in the Age of Rage, and eudaimonia. You can also find him on Medium where he is a top writer in Life, Politics, Culture, Leadership. Follow him on Twitter @UmairH.
This episode was released on the last night of the CPAC conference, shortly after Trump spoke, laying out their strategy to further consolidate their fascist base in the Republican Party and return to power. We can either:
A. Treat the Nazi GOP as a legitimate political party/movement to be compromised, debated, worked with
OR
B. Recognize they are fascist. Have difficult, fruitful dialogue amongst decent people about how to stop fascism
We can’t do both.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
Venmo: @Refuse-Fascism
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.

Feb 20, 2021 • 28min
Dr. Bandy Lee: "The Removal of Trump Wasn't Enough"
Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Bandy Lee, M.D., M.Div., a forensic psychiatrist, violence expert, and faculty member of Yale School of Medicine for 17 years who also taught at Yale Law School for 15 years. She was a research fellow at the National Institute of Mental Health, a consultant with the World Health Organization since 2002, and author of the textbook, Violence (2019). She edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President (2017 and 2019) and authored Profile of a Nation: Trump’s Mind, America’s Soul (2020). She is also president of the World Mental Health Coalition (worldmhc.org), which is a professional organization dedicated to the betterment of societal mental health and is forming a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to examine what happened over the Trump years and how the nation can heal from it. You can follow her work at bandylee.com and @BandyXLee1.
Read and share the statement from the editorial board of RefuseFascism.org on the second Senate acquittal of Trump. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.

Feb 14, 2021 • 28min
Sarah Posner on Trump's Acquittal; An Unpunished Coup Attempt Becomes a Training Exercise
Sam Goldman talks with journalist and author Sarah Posner (@SarahPosner) about Trump's impeachment trial. Read Sarah's recent piece, How the Christian right helped foment insurrection.
Upon acquittal, Trump said, “Our historic, patriotic and beautiful movement to Make America Great Again has only just begun. In the months ahead I have much to share with you, and I look forward to continuing our incredible journey together to achieve American greatness for all of our people. There has never been anything like it!”
And as much as he lies with every breath, these statements about only just beginning will prove true if we don’t stop them.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman.
Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
Venmo: @Refuse-Fascism
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.

Feb 10, 2021 • 1h 8min
The Senate Impeachment Trial & the Need to Refuse Fascism
This urgent discussion was recorded February 8, on the eve of Trump’s second impeachment trial. What actually happened on January 6 when a fascist mob stormed the Capitol? What does that, and everything that lead up to it, tell us about the danger of fascism in America? How does the impeachment trial fit into this picture? And how can people act act in a meaningful way in the interests of humanity at this unprecedented moment?
The discussion features:
Eric Seitz, attorney, lecturer in Constitutional Law, University of Hawai’i
Jared Yates Sexton, professor, writer & political analyst, author AMERICAN RULE: How a Nation Conquered the World but Failed Its People
Paul Street, historian & journalist; author, The Hollow Resistance: Obama, Trump, and Politics of Appeasement
Frances Fisher, actress and activist
Sam Goldman, RefuseFascism.org Editorial Board, host of the Refuse Fascism podcast
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman.
Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
Venmo: @Refuse-Fascism
Cashapp: @RefuseFascism
paypal.me/refusefascism
donate.refusefascism.org
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.

Feb 7, 2021 • 43min
Sian Norris: The Anti-Abortion Movement Internationally
Sian Norris (@Sianushka), author of the upcoming book Birth Violence, talks with Sam Goldman about the tactics and links of anti-abortion movement internationally - including fascist coup participants in the assault on the US Capitol January 6.
Then, Sam talks with Coco Das (@Coco_Das) about her new article on RefuseFascism.org: The “Left” Coalition That Kept You Off the Streets and Won’t Stop Fascism.
RSVP for the online forum Monday February 8: The Senate Impeachment Trial & the Need to Refuse Fascism with actor and activists Frances Fisher, attorney Eric Seitz, writer Jared Yates Sexton, and historian and journalist Paul Street.
Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman.
Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
Venmo: @Refuse-Fascism
Cashapp: @RefuseFascism
paypal.me/refusefascism
donate.refusefascism.org
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.

Jan 31, 2021 • 36min
Paul Street: The Anatomy of Fascism Denial
As Trump's impeachment trial looms but some progressives argue that holding Trump accountable for his fascist coup attempt would distract Congress from accomplishing other priorities, Sam Goldman talks with writer and historian Paul Street about his upcoming piece "The Anatomy of Fascism-Denial: 31 Flavors of Anti-Antifascism." Read "Thirty-One Flavors of Fascism" now.
RSVP for the online forum Monday February 8: The Senate Impeachment Trial & the Need to Refuse Fascism.
Also read the full New Year's statement by Bob Avakian that Sam mentions at the beginning here. Send your comments and ideas for this show going forward to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman.
Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
Venmo: @Refuse-Fascism
Cashapp: @RefuseFascism
paypal.me/refusefascism
donate.refusefascism.org
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.

Jan 24, 2021 • 31min
Henry Giroux: Trump is not Trumpism and Trumpism is not Dead
Sam Goldman talks with renowned educator and author of multiple books Henry Giroux about his recent piece on Truthout: Downplaying Trumpism is Dangerous.
Trump is out of power now but clearly there is still a need for people acting together to refuse fascism and demand a more just world. How close did we come to full-blown fascism? What are we faced with now and what is needed? We will continue to explore these questions on this podcast and encourage people to act with us via refusefascism.org. Send your comments and ideas for this show going forward to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman.
Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
Venmo: @Refuse-Fascism
Cashapp: @RefuseFascism
paypal.me/refusefascism
donate.refusefascism.org
Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.