

Off The Looking Glass
Kate Fagan & Jessica Smetana
Kate Fagan and Jessica Smetana host this magazine style podcast. The show will include a mix of interviews, skits and discussions that consider an alternative historical point of view on culture, as well as women’s sports and those who have critiqued them. While the show is *technically* about sports, it will mostly enter through the side doors of pop culture and comedy, with a northstar of telling the story of (women in) sports with humor, insight, and joy.
Episodes
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Jun 14, 2023 • 28min
Fore!
In this grab bag episode, Jess & Kate welcome the two golfers — Maycee Kay Aycock and Sarah Marshall — whose combined score of 434 helped save not only their college’s team, but also an entire conference. Plus, an ad for a podcast that finally addresses an important topic : conspiracy theories in women’s sports. (Why DID Brandi Chastain rip off her jersey at the Rose Bowl in ‘99?!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 7, 2023 • 41min
Diamonds
In honor of the Women’s College World Series (and its bonkers ratings), Kate & Jess present an all-softball episode ft. TWO former NCAA champs: Lauren Chamberlain (Oklahoma) and Natasha Watley (UCLA), as well as TWO rabbit holes that dig deep into the future of professional women’s softball. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 31, 2023 • 47min
Ante Up
A jam-packed episode featuring poker champ Annie Duke, who chats with Jess & Kate about the power of quitting, then the show takes a much-needed trip to the multiverse for an episode of the Jess & Kate Show, where the hosts discuss the ridiculous jockstrapGATE that took over golf, and also a very special Campfire about how the runners of San Francisco are attempting a Guinness world record. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 24, 2023 • 30min
Say Cheese
Olympic gold medalist and WNBA champ Jewell Loyd is back for Part II of her interview, where she takes us inside that devastating Seattle Storm loss to the Aces during last season’s playoffs, theeeeeeen, a very special (and very stinky) Campfire segment featuring the winner of a sport you probably have never heard of, but will certainly never forget. What would YOU do for a wheel of cheese? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 17, 2023 • 38min
Game Time
The show dips back into the basketball waters — hello, WNBA season! — with WNBA champ, and Seattle Storm cornerstone, Jewell Loyd, who reveals that she and her brother drew up a 5- and 10-year plan for her career BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL. Plus, Jess and Kate take numerous segues (Scattergories, anyone?) as they attempt to tackle the question: Are super teams good for the WNBA? Annnnnnnd, the final pre-qualifier update from Anya! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 10, 2023 • 41min
Support System
OTLG hits all the notes in this episode, from an opening voicemail from Kate’s mom (Happy Mothers Day, y’all!) to a deep discussion about the objectification of female athletes with national champion runner, and New York Times bestselling author (GOOD FOR A GIRL), Lauren Fleshman. Plus, a final update from Anya before next week’s U.S. Open qualifier and, of course … don’t skip the ads! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 3, 2023 • 44min
Stakes
Giddy-up! OTLG goes full Kentucky Derby: Jess and Kate welcome the legend — and winner of a Triple Crown race! — Julie Krone, who gives us the inside scoop on life as a jockey and what kind of hype music she listened to before a big race (hint: SHOWTUNES), then Anya brings us an Extra, Extra! featuring Diana Krump, who was the first female rider in Kentucky Derby history. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 26, 2023 • 44min
Capital T, Capital S
It’s baaaaaack — in honor of their superstar guest, Kate & Jess deliver the first “Does it Hold Up?” of the new era, going all the way back to 1992 to reassess the family-friendly (or maybe not?) comedy, The Mighty Ducks. The movie was, of course, a favorite of Olympic gold medalist and hockey pioneer Hilary Knight, who joins the show to discuss important things like the future of women’s pro hockey and where she keeps her silver medals. Plus — producer Anya Alvarez has another update in her quest to qualify for the U.S. Open. quack … Quack … QUACK! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 19, 2023 • 40min
Future
Jess & Kate share their visions for the future of women’s sports (Mars, anyone?) after catching up with Anya Alvarez on her journey to the U.S. Open, then the pair are joined by basketball maven Ari Chambers, who takes us inside the busiest week in hoops and leads the hosts down a little Paige Beuckers detour. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 12, 2023 • 32min
Tuxedos
Join Kate and Jess as they discover an almost-never-seen sports flick starring Pistol Pete and their guest, “Machine Gun” Molly Kazmer (nee Bolin), who tells another round of stories from the WBL heyday, including a Hollywood/Des Moines movie premiere, and the Great Tuxedo Rebellion. Pluuuuus, producer Anya Alvarez offers the first of her dispatches on her road to Pebble Beach glory, and don’t skip the ads! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices


