

Off The Looking Glass
Kate Fagan & Jessica Smetana
Kate Fagan and Jessica Smetana host this magazine style podcast. The show will include a mix of interviews, skits and discussions that consider an alternative historical point of view on culture, as well as women’s sports and those who have critiqued them. While the show is *technically* about sports, it will mostly enter through the side doors of pop culture and comedy, with a northstar of telling the story of (women in) sports with humor, insight, and joy.
Episodes
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Aug 23, 2023 • 38min
Grand Finale
In this, the last-ever episode of OTLG, Kate & Jess take you on a journey through some of their favorite moments: from their interview with silver screen icon Geena Davis to legend Dawn Staley talking about who she’d give a signature shoe to that one time they interviewed Megan Rapinoe, Sue Bird, Ashlyn Harris and Ali Krieger ALL AT THE SAME TIME. Plus, one last time … don’t skip the ads! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 16, 2023 • 33min
Dreams
WNBA star Angel McCoughtry and boxing legend Jackie Kellen discuss the evolution of women's sports, addressing backlash and challenges of being outspoken athletes. Jackie shares her journey as a female boxing manager in a male-dominated field. They also talk about adapting real life for the big screen and Hollywood's dramatization of true stories.

Aug 9, 2023 • 41min
The Fan
Kate & Jess are very, very sad about the USWNT loss but so, so happy that the rest of the world is happy! And as a soothing balm for all hurting fans out there, OTLG has an episode chock full of goodness: Olympic gold medalist and data guru Angela Ruggiero joins to share what she’s learned about selling women’s sports, and Olympic marathon Kara Goucher shares a fascinating story from her first-ever Boston Marathon. Ole! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 2, 2023 • 31min
Flat White
From halfway around the world, all the way from Wellington, New Zealand, The Athletic’s Meg Linehan joins Kate & Jess and breaks down everything World Cup — from the perfect flat whites to the USWNT’s slow start. Ole! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 26, 2023 • 37min
Worldwide
Kate & Jess go around the globe for this episode of OTLG, touching on the ongoing World Cup — show alum Sophia Smith with two goals! — then bringing you the story of the Soccer Grannies from South Africa, and finally finishing in France (say it with us: cwwwwuissant ) with a Campfire told by the winner of the first-ever Tour de France for women, Marianne Martin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 19, 2023 • 37min
The Main Event
It’s World Cup time baby, and OTLG is here with one of the stars of the USWNT, Sophia Smith, who takes us back to her high school years when she was the star of her … basketball team! (And, also, Kate’s crushed to hear that she’s never even HEARD of the movie Notting Hill.)All kinds of surprises await — psst, don’t skip the ads— in this WWC kick-off episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 12, 2023 • 35min
Big UCONN
Off The Looking Glass comes full circle with an extra special data-driven episode where Jess & Kate aim to quantify their UCONN bias theory from Season 1. Featuring famed datahead Tom Haberstroh and two college hoppers (and budding data scientists) who build algorithms and scrape the data — how many times can we say that word? — in an attempt to prove whether the media’s UCONN bias is a real thing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 5, 2023 • 37min
Open
Jess and Kate dive head first into all things golf, first bringing on LPGA tour member Ryan O’Toole who offers a peek behind the curtain about what it’s like as a professional golfer (she’s like a part-time travel agent!), then a brand-new Campfire — this one brought by Anya Alvarez — about the backstory of one very famous 16th hole, the woman who helped design it, and what it’s like to play it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 28, 2023 • 43min
Tidal Wave
Kate & Jess embark on an episode with a unifying theme: Things They Are Scared Of. First up is the ocean, and waves (big and small), which they discuss with World Surf League chief of sport, Jessi Miley-Dyer, who deftly handles — no surprise! — the hosts 101 questions. Theeeeeen, Jess & Kate dissect the new Max documentary, Bama Rush, a film that *tries* to take viewers inside the mysterious and competitive world of … sorority rushing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 21, 2023 • 45min
Snacks
AN EPIC CROSSOVER EXPERIENCE: OTLG x Snacks! Kate & Jess are joined by U.S. soccer stars Sam Mewis and Lynn Williams, who answer key questions such as “How does the World Cup roster get released?” and “Would you rather interview or be interviewed?” Plus, after years of Kate expressing the importance of The Sandlot to Jess, the show welcomes actor Patrick Renna for a nice chat, which forces the hosts down a combo rabbit hole/Does It Hold Up? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices


