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In 2007, Safaricom PLC (Safaricom) and Vodafone invented M-PESA, a mobile payment system that has transformed financial services in Kenya and beyond by bringing banking capabilities to unbanked populations. M-PESA has become a cornerstone of the Kenyan economy and helped Safaricom build a reputation for innovation. In this episode, I'm talking with Fawzia Ali, chief consumer business officer at Safaricom. We discuss the success of M-PESA, the company’s efforts to use AI and machine learning for continued innovation, and how it’s preparing its workforce for an AI-driven future. Listen now to hear:How M-PESA simplicity and wide distribution changed the game for unbanked populations [02:12];How Safaricom is using AI and ML to create hyper-personalized plans [06:52];The power of starting with small cohorts of customers and iterating quickly [09:45]; andHow Safaricom is boosting employees’ AI know-how and fostering a culture of AI innovation [13:00].Links and ResourcesIn 2015, American television news show 60 Minutes told the story of M-PESA’s success, and in June of this year, Forbes continued the story with the article, M-PESA: Why the world’s first large mobile payment platform keeps on winning.Earlier this year, Fawzia wrote an article for Marketing Africa Magazine called Learn, Unlearn, Relearn about the importance of setting personal and professional goals and learning new skills. Look for it on page 8.Ready to unlock the power of your data and supercharge your customer experience? Listen to my MWC23 MVNO Summit Talk, SUPERCHARGE your MVNO with personalization where I talk about how you can use ML and hyperpersonalization to drive new revenue.Fawzia and I both have a special relationship with shoes, and she’s even talked about her passion for them in this video from Engage+.My go-to shoes are Golden Goose mid-stars: They have wingtip styling like a man’s business shoe. They’re my “business sneaker.”Watch this episode on our YouTube channel.You can find the episode transcript here.Wanna talk AI and public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring. Follow DRHave an idea for a Telco in 20 podcast guest or topic? Send it in!Want to sponsor a podcast? Let us knowFollow Telco in 20 on X @TelcoIn20Follow DR on X @TelcoDRThe Telco in 20 podcast won 2024 and 2022 Hermes Awards, 2023 and 2022 MarComm Awards, and was recognized as a TeckNexus Top 12 Telco and Tech Podcast, Forrester Top 100 Channel Podcast and Feedspot Top 10 Telecom Podcast. If you enjoy the podcast, would you leave us a short review? It takes you seconds to do in your app and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. And I love reading your feedback and reviews!This week’s guestFawzia Ali is a transformational commercial leader in the FMCG and telecommunications sectors, currently serving as the chief consumer business officer at Safaricom PLC, a leading technology company in Africa. With an impressive track record of success and a deep understanding of the ever-evolving consumer landscape, Fawzia plays a pivotal role in shaping Safaricom's customer-centric strategy and driving the company's growth in the competitive technology sector. She leads a diverse and talented team focused on creating value for Safaricom's customers.Podcast CreditsExecutive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios, TelcoDRSenior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo MediaSenior Editor/Brand Manager: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard MarketingAudio Editor: Andrew CondellSupervising Producer: Amanda AveryAssociate Producer: Kriselda DionisioMusic: Dyami Wilson

The telco industry is in the midst of a generative AI (GenAI) revolution, with vendors and operators racing to integrate this technology into their products and services. In this episode, I sit down with John Abraham, principal analyst and leader of the digital enablement practice at Appledore Research. We dive into how vendors are applying GenAI to their products, major trends in BSS, how the costs of implementing AI can be justified by real business results, and more. Listen now to hear:The biggest trends in BSS that are driving telco transformation [02:34];How vendors are trying to use AI to revolutionize their products [05:32];Why using AI for code generation is such a big idea [07:53]; and AI pricing strategies and questions operators need to ask about ROI [12:44].Links and ResourcesJohn and I sat down at TM Forum’s DTW Ignite to talk about how Totogi is using GenAI to save telcos huge amounts of time and money with their BSS. Watch a video of our conversation.The real power of generative AI is code generation. Read my blog, The promise of AI is no UI, to find out how Totogi is using AI to accelerate change in ANY BSS system.Check out these Appledore Research reports (paywalled): GenAI in BSSPredictive Analytics and GenAI: Choosing the right tool for the jobLearn more about Appledore Research. Do YOU have a Yeti yet? John LOVED the insulated mug we gave him at MWC. The wonderful drinkware can keep anything cold or hot for HOURS. This Austin-based company is right down the street from my house. Check it out! Watch this episode on our YouTube channel.You can find the episode transcript here.Wanna talk AI and public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring. Follow DRHave an idea for a Telco in 20 podcast guest or topic? Send it in!Want to sponsor a podcast? Let us knowFollow Telco in 20 on X @TelcoIn20Follow DR on X @TelcoDRThe Telco in 20 podcast won 2024 and 2022 Hermes Awards, 2023 and 2022 MarComm Awards, and was recognized as a TeckNexus Top 12 Telco and Tech Podcast, Forrester Top 100 Channel Podcast and Feedspot Top 10 Telecom Podcast. If you enjoy the podcast, would you leave us a short review? It takes you seconds to do in your app and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. And I love reading your feedback and reviews!This week’s guestWith over 16 years’ experience in the telecom industry, John Abraham is a principal analyst at Appledore Research and leads the digital enablement practice. Previously, he was at Analysys Mason for 11 years, where he led the Digital Experience research segment as Principal Analyst. He has experience working with a varied client base on topics including digitization benchmarking and procurement for CSPs; strategy and go-to market for vendors; and commercial and technical due diligence for financial institutions. Earlier, as a consultant at a BSS vendor, he led requirements gathering, solution definition, and implementation at multiple tier-1 telcos in Asia and Europe. John holds a bachelor’s degree in computer science from Anna University (India) and an MBA from Bradford University School of Management (UK).Podcast CreditsExecutive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios, TelcoDRSenior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo MediaSenior Editor/Brand Manager: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard MarketingAudio Editor: Andrew CondellSupervising Producer: Amanda AveryAssociate Producer: Kriselda DionisioMusic: Dyami Wilson

From streamlining network operations to boosting customer experiences, artificial intelligence (AI) is helping trailblazing telcos stay competitive in a rapidly changing landscape. For this episode, I explore Canadian telco TELUS’ AI transformation with its Chief Insights Officer, Jaime Tatis. We talk about how the operator is already using AI to reduce costs, increase efficiency, and get its workforce ready for the future. Listen now to hear:How TELUS's AI-driven Fuel iX platform is transforming internal IT support [03:53];Why now may not be the time to build telco-specific LLMs [07:29];Why clean, well-organized data is crucial for AI success [09:32]; andHow TELUS uses AI to boost network technician efficiency and more [12:50].Links and ResourcesLearn more about TELUS and its Fuel iX project.TELUS was savvy enough to realize that messy siloed data would weigh down its cloud transformation. Read more about how it worked with Google Cloud and Accenture to get its data future-ready. In October 2023, TELUS became the world's first company to achieve ISO 31700-1 Privacy by Design certification for its Data for Good program, validating its commitment to responsible data.Need some inspiration for ways to put AI to work in your telco? Read my blog, 10 examples of how telcos are using AI (BESIDES customer support!).Check out one of my favorite Saturday Night Live skits of all time, Jimmy Fallon playing Nick Burns, Your Company's Computer Guy, because NO ONE wants to talk to the IT guy.Check out this episode on our YouTube channel.You can find the transcript for the episode here.Wanna talk public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring. Follow DRHave an idea for a Telco in 20 podcast guest or topic? Send it in!Want to sponsor a podcast? Let us knowFollow Telco in 20 on X @TelcoIn20Follow DR on X @TelcoDRThe Telco in 20 podcast won 2024 and 2022 Hermes Awards, 2023 and 2022 MarComm Awards, and was recognized as a TeckNexus Top 12 Telco and Tech Podcast, Forrester Top 100 Channel Podcast and Feedspot Top 10 Telecom Podcast. If you enjoy the podcast, would you leave us a short review? It takes you seconds to do in your app and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. And I love reading your feedback and reviews!This week’s guestJaime Tatis, the Chief Insights & Analytics Officer at TELUS, spearheads the evolution of data, AI, and analytics strategy across the TELUS ecosystem. With a keen focus on fostering a culture of innovation, Jaime drives the company's transformation towards pioneering customer technology solutions. Leveraging data-driven insights and cutting-edge cloud-based infrastructure, Jaime empowers TELUS with state-of-the-art Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning capabilities. Through this strategic approach, Jaime elevates business performance, enhances operational efficiency, and delivers unparalleled customer experiences, positioning TELUS at the forefront of technological innovation.Podcast CreditsExecutive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios, TelcoDRSenior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo MediaSenior Editor/Brand Manager: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard MarketingAudio Editor: Andrew CondellSupervising Producer: Amanda AveryAssociate Producer: Kriselda DionisioMusic: Dyami Wilson

It's no secret that telcos across the globe are grappling with how to monetize their 5G networks. But in Africa, only 1% of operators have implemented 5G, which puts them in a unique position to take advantage of new technology like AI and the public cloud, and apply them to old 2G and 3G networks.I recently appeared as a guest on the Ali Talks Tech podcast, which focuses on Africa's changing technical landscape. Host Ali Hussein Kassim and I explored how African telcos can capitalize on using the public cloud with mobile networks and how AI and innovative tools are poised to drive real change across the continent. Listen now to hear:How African telcos can benefit from the latest public cloud tech—even on 2G and 3G networks [02:31];Zain Sudan’s groundbreaking work to connect older networks to AI and cloud services [11:02];How cloud-based, pay-as-you-grow models are supercharging MVNOs in Nigeria [17:32]; andHow hyperscaler tools, AI and the public cloud can help telcos hyper-personalize offers and bring in new revenue [19:50].Links and ResourcesShow Notes:Watch the video-version of my full conversation with Ali on the Ali Talks Tech YouTube channel.Read McKinsey & Company’s January 2024 report, Africa’s leap ahead into cloud: Opportunities and barriersRead the announcement of Totogi’s exciting partnership with Zain Sudan, and don’t miss my first conversation with Ali and Abdalla Hamid, Director of IT at Zain Sudan, where we talked about Totogi’s work to restore critical mobile services in Sudan after they were knocked out during the ongoing civil war.Then be sure to check out my recent blog and Telco in 20 episode 89 to find out why the public cloud is PERFECT for Africa. Take a look at the 2022 McKinsey & Company study about FinTech across Africa, African financial services are undergoing a structural shift, which Ali took part in.Ali and I talked about the company that gave me my start back in the late 1990s, Trilogy. It was a $1B startup success story that garnered a lot of headlines at the time. Fast Company wrote about Trilogy in a piece called Insanity Inc. Here’s the cover from that issue. Look for me in the top right corner!In 2015, the American news show 60 Minutes aired The Future of Money about M-PESA, Kenya's mobile money solution from Safaricom.Check out the Ali Talks Tech podcast for insights on Africa's rapidly changing tech landscape.Listen to this episode on our YouTube channel.Read the transcript for this episode here.Wanna talk public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring. Follow DRHave an idea for a Telco in 20 podcast guest or topic? Send it in!Want to sponsor a podcast? Let us knowFollow Telco in 20 on Twitter @TelcoIn20Follow DR on Twitter @TelcoDRThe Telco in 20 podcast won 2024 and 2022 Hermes Awards, 2023 and 2022 MarComm Awards, and was recognized as a TeckNexus Top 12 Telco and Tech Podcast, Forrester Top 100 Channel Podcast and Feedspot Top 10 Telecom Podcast. If you enjoy the podcast, would you leave us a short review? It takes you seconds to do in your app and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. And I love reading your feedback and reviews!This week’s guestAli Hussein Kassim, Ali Talks Tech founder and hostAli is a serial entrepreneur and a regular commentator and contributor on all things tech and the policy and regulatory landscape across Africa and beyond. He consults on digital transformation, and serves in leadership roles on public and private sector boards including Africa Fintech Network, Association of Fintechs in Kenya, and Kenya ICT Action Network. He enjoys mentoring and investing in tech entrepreneurs across Africa. Podcast CreditsExecutive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios Royston, TelcoDRSenior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo MediaSenior Editor/Brand Manager: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard MarketingAudio Editor: Andrew CondellSupervising Producer: Amanda AveryAssociate Producer: Kriselda DionisioMusic: Dyami Wilson

Singtel is a leading mobile network operator (MNO) in the Asia-Pacific region with a reputation for innovation. Its pioneering culture is one of the reasons why Anna Yip, the operator’s CEO of business development and deputy CEO for Singapore, is constantly on the lookout for creative ways to build new revenue streams, customer satisfaction, and subscriber loyalty. Anna recently toured the United States to scope out happenings in the industry, and we caught up for an in-person conversation in… (wait for it)… New York City! Listen now to hear:How Singtel is leveraging its 5G Standalone network to boost revenue [03:45];Why it’s taking part in a Global Telco AI Alliance with other operators to develop an industry-specific large language model (LLM) [08:55];Its plans for a pioneering cross-border rewards program in partnership with seven other telcos, [11:23]; andWhat telcos can learn from Taylor Swift's incredible work ethic and success [14:49].Links and ResourcesLearn more about Singtel.Read about the Global Telco AI Alliance announced at MWC24. Singtel, Deutsche Telekom, e& Group, SoftBank and SK Telecom have joined forces to develop an industry-specific LLM. The operators shared their vision for the project at last week’s DTW24 - Ignite.Singtel is also collaborating with other AsiaPac telcos on a cross-border telco rewards programme that offer perks to globe-trotting customers.Check out Anna’s LinkedIn post from the opening night of Taylor Swift’s concerts in Singapore. (Seamless photo sharing compliments of the Singtel 5G Express Pass!)Then check out my post on Instagram from Taylor’s concert in Houston, Texas. The Reputation album was calling my name!Check out this episode on our YouTube channel.You can find the transcript for the episode here.Wanna talk public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring. Follow DRHave an idea for a Telco in 20 podcast guest or topic? Send it in!Want to sponsor a podcast? Let us knowFollow Telco in 20 on X @TelcoIn20Follow DR on X @TelcoDRThe Telco in 20 podcast won 2024 and 2022 Hermes Awards, 2023 and 2022 MarComm Awards, and was recognized as a TeckNexus Top 12 Telco and Tech Podcast, Forrester Top 100 Channel Podcast and Feedspot Top 10 Telecom Podcast. If you enjoy the podcast, would you leave us a short review? It takes you seconds to do in your app and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. And I love reading your feedback and reviews!This week’s guestAnna Yip is a senior business leader with more than a decade of experience leading and scaling business in the technology sector. She has built a track record of driving 'intrapreneurship' and successfully building new businesses across markets. A committed people leader, Anna is passionate about mentoring young talent and supporting more women in tech.Currently, Anna serves as the Deputy CEO Singapore and CEO of Business Development for Singtel. Under her leadership, Singtel Singapore became one of the first markets to successfully roll out 5G SA nationwide, with robust migration of customers to the latest mobile technology. Singtel continues to play an instrumental role in empowering people-centric digital lifestyles as Singapore advances as a smart nation. She has also been appointed a Board of Commissioner member of Telkomsel in Indonesia since June 1, 2021.Before joining Singtel, Anna was the CEO and Executive Director of Smartone, a leading telecommunications company headquartered in Hong Kong. Prior to her role at Smartone, Anna headed up Mastercard's operations in Hong Kong and Macau. Anna holds a DPhil (PhD) from University of Oxford and a First-Class Honours degree in Business Administration from the Chinese University of Hong Kong.Podcast CreditsExecutive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios Royston, TelcoDRSenior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo MediaSenior Editor/Brand Manager: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard MarketingAudio Editor: Andrew CondellSupervising Producer: Amanda AveryAssociate Producer: Kriselda DionisioMusic: Dyami Wilson

It's hard to believe it's been three years since CLOUD CITY stole the show at MWC 2021 and I boldly proclaimed the dawn of the public cloud era in telecom. It’s amazing how far the industry has come in its public cloud journey since then.Juha Korhonen, a forward-thinking telco transformation leader, recognized the potential of the public cloud back then. At the time he was the head of innovation and digital services at Zain Group, where he was instrumental in launching Yaqoot, a digital mobile brand in Saudi Arabia. Since then, he has done a tour at Gartner as a senior advisor in BSS. I’ve invited Juha back to talk about where CSPs are today, how BSS and OSS are evolving, and the transformative power of AI across telco operations. Listen now to hear:Telcos’ public cloud adoption trends across the globe [01:48];Signs that telecoms are growing more comfortable using the public cloud [04:31], and even ready to think about moving network workloads [08:40]; The need for BSS and OSS to converge to deliver 5G monetization opportunities [11:07]; andHow AI can solve some of the industry's biggest challenges [13:44].Links and ResourcesRead more about Microsoft and AT&T’s deal to move AT&T’s 5G core network to Azure’s cloud platform, with Microsoft acquiring AT&T's Network Cloud tech and talent. Check out this article by The Mobile Network’s Keith Dyer about O2 Telefonica Germany saying goodbye to traditional telco infrastructure and "Guten Tag" to the public cloud.Here’s an article from NVIDIA highlighting how underutilized RAN resources can be. It notes that they typically operate below 50% capacity due to provisioning for peak traffic.Listen to Telco in 20 episode 68, giffgaff is 1,000 times faster with AWS, to hear how the MVNO went all-in on the public cloud and used spot instances to reel in cloud costs.Check out my conversation with DISH Network’s CTO Marc Rouanne about the company’s rollout of a cloud-native 5G network.Read my blog about how telcos can unlock the true value of their BSS with AI.Listen to Juha’s 2021 Telco in 20 episode, Ep 18 – A digital telco: Meet Yaqoot.Watch my crazy first (!) keynote at MWC 2021—I was so nervous! But it was SO good - Ride that public cloud (and now AI!) dragon!Remember CLOUD CITY and that EPIC Bon Jovi concert? I’ll never forget it. Check out my backstage picture with Bon Jovi. And here’s one of Bon Jovi and Juha—what a day!Check out this episode on our YouTube channel.You can find the transcript for the episode here.Wanna talk public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring. Or better yet, come find me at TM Forum’s DTW-Ignite in Copenhagen on June 18 - 20. Send me a DM on Linkedin or X @TelcoDR and we can set up a time to meet. Team Totogi will be in the AWS stand as a Featured Partner, so stop by to catch a demo of Totogi’s BSS Magic. Follow DRHave an idea for a Telco in 20 podcast guest or topic? Send it in!Want to sponsor a podcast? Let us knowFollow Telco in 20 on X @TelcoIn20Follow DR on X @TelcoDRThe Telco in 20 podcast won 2024 and 2022 Hermes Awards, 2023 and 2022 MarComm Awards, and was recognized as a TeckNexus Top 12 Telco and Tech Podcast, Forrester Top 100 Channel Podcast and Feedspot Top 10 Telecom Podcast. If you enjoy the podcast, would you leave us a short review? It takes you seconds to do in your app and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. And I love reading your feedback and reviews!This week’s guestJuha Korhonen is a telecom industry veteran. In his 25+ years of industry experience, Juha has held C-level roles, including group director of digital and innovation with Zain Group as well as chief commercial officer for Zain Saudi Arabia and Wataniya Telecom in Kuwait. Lately, Juha worked as senior director, advisor at Gartner. Juha started his career in Europe with Telecom Finland and moved to the US to lead its mobile startup Zed. He has led reimagine and reinvention efforts at traditional operators. He built, launched, and operated a fully digital operator B-Brand called Yaqoot in 2020. Juha lives in the state of New Jersey in the USA, and he is married with three children.Podcast CreditsExecutive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios Royston, TelcoDRSenior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo MediaSenior Editor/Brand Manager: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard MarketingAudio Editor: Andrew CondellSupervising Producer: Amanda AveryAssociate Producer: Kriselda DionisioMusic: Dyami Wilson

I've spent the last four years championing the game-changing benefits of the public cloud for telcos, from cost savings to faster innovation. While some operators are embracing the cloud (like the O2 Telefonica Germany deal that was announced last week to run their 5G network 100% on AWS), others are doubling down on building their own private cloud—but all signs point to a turning tide. To get an honest take on where telcos stand, I’m talking with Iain Morris, international editor at Light Reading. He connects regularly with the industry’s top leaders to talk about their strategic priorities and technology plans, and writes regularly about where telcos are on their cloud journeys. Listen now to hear:How telcos' perspectives on the public cloud have shifted since 2018 [03:50];Where the line is for moving network workloads to the public cloud [08:39];How DISH Network, AT&T and e& are moving things forward by jumping on the public cloud train [10:00]; andHow generative AI is influencing telcos’ interest in the public cloud [14:30].Links and ResourcesRead my blog, Telco’s shift to the public cloud gets real, about O2 Telefónica Germany and other telcos that are making big cloud moves.Read O2 Telefónica’s recent announcement about launching a new 5G core network built entirely in the cloud.Check out some of Iain’s  articles in Light Reading:Telefónica Germany turns to AWS, Nokia in cloud core threat to Ericsson (5/14/24)The public cloud has failed to crack telecom (1/19/24)Telco cloudification poses a huge systemic risk (10/13/23)Read what Amazon CEO Andy Jassy has to say about Bedrock in his 2023 Letter to ShareholdersListen to my 2021 conversation with Iain and his podcast co-host Scott Bicheno in Telco in 20 episode 27, Talking public cloud with Telecoms.com.Read AT&T’s June 2021 announcement about moving its 5G mobile network to Microsoft Cloud.Check out this February 2023 article from Fierce Network’s Linda Hardesty about Microsoft reworking 5G core software from AT&T for sale to other carriers.Iain’s son is a proud member of the University of Denver’s men’s tennis team. Read about their awesome 2024 season.Check out this episode on our YouTube channel.You can find the transcript for this episode here.Wanna talk public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring. Or better yet, come find me at TM Forum’s DTW-Ignite in Copenhagen on June 18 - 20. Send me a DM on Linkedin or X @TelcoDR and we can set up a time to meet. Team Totogi will be in the AWS stand as a Featured Partner, so stop by to catch a demo of Totogi’s BSS Magic. Follow DRHave an idea for a Telco in 20 podcast guest or topic? Send it in!Want to sponsor a podcast? Let us knowFollow Telco in 20 on Twitter @TelcoIn20Follow DR on Twitter @TelcoDRThe Telco in 20 podcast won 2024 and 2022 Hermes Awards, 2023 and 2022 MarComm Awards, and was recognized as a TeckNexus Top 12 Telco and Tech Podcast, Forrester Top 100 Channel Podcast and Feedspot Top 10 Telecom Podcast. If you enjoy the podcast, would you leave us a short review? It takes you seconds to do in your app and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. And I love reading your feedback and reviews!This week’s guestIain Morris is the International Editor at Light Reading, having joined the team as News Editor at the start of 2015. Prior to boosting Light Reading's UK-based editorial team numbers, he was a successful freelance writer and editor covering the telecom sector for 15 years. His work has appeared in The Economist and The Observer, and a variety of trade and business journals. He was previously the lead telecom analyst for the Economist Intelligence Unit, and before that worked as features editor at Telecommunications magazine. Iain started in telecom as an editor at consulting and market-research company Analysys (now Analysys Mason).Podcast CreditsExecutive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios Royston, TelcoDRSenior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo MediaSenior Editor/Brand Manager: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard MarketingAudio Editor: Andrew CondellSupervising Producer: Amanda AveryAssociate Producer: Kriselda DionisioMusic: Dyami Wilson

Microsoft has been quick to pick up the GenAI reins, making huge investments in OpenAI and strategic acquisitions like Inflection AI. Now, the hyperscaler wants to help telcos bring AI into their organizations in meaningful ways. For this episode, I spoke with Jason Hogg, GM for AIOps within Azure for Operators, about where telcos are on their AI journey, how Microsoft is helping them prepare data for AI workloads, and how CSPs can steer their organizations to make the most of the AI revolution. Listen now to hear:How Microsoft is helping telcos manage siloed data to support AI, both in the cloud and at the edge [03:21];How AI tools like Azure OpenAI and Azure Operator Insights are being used in operations, fraud detection, and more [05:20];The importance of moving beyond AI experimentation to putting AI models to work in the business [09:22]; andWhy telcos need to redesign their organizations to be AI-first [13:10].Links and ResourcesJason talked about Microsoft’s work with 3UK to use Azure Operator Insights to break down silos and generate new insights. Check out this video overview here. Read my recent blog on how to transform your customer support with AIAt last year’s TelecomTV AI-Native Telco Summit, I took part in a panel on Using AIOps for operational efficiencies. Watch the on-demand recording.Check out Frederick Winslow Taylor’s best-selling organizational design book, Shop Management.Learn more about Totogi’s BSS MagicCheck out Accelerating telco transformation in the era of AI, a blog from Microsoft’s Jason Zandor.In late March, the Telecoms.com Podcast welcomed former Telco in 20 guest Shawn Hakl, Microsoft’s VP of 5G strategy, to talk about the public cloud and 5G. Listen to the conversation. Take a look at this video of “Extreme Buddy Skiing.” It takes a lot of fear, anxiety, and planning to get to the moment where you can drop in on a face like the one they ski. It reminds me of what it takes to make big moves to use the public cloud and AI the right way! Check out this episode on our YouTube channel.You can find the transcript for this episode here.Wanna talk public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring.Follow DRHave an idea for a Telco in 20 podcast guest or topic? Send it in!Want to sponsor a podcast? Let us knowFollow Telco in 20 on X @TelcoIn20Follow DR on X @TelcoDRThe Telco in 20 podcast won a 2024 Gold Hermes Award, 2023 and 2022 MarComm Awards, a 2022 Gold Hermes Award, and was recognized as a TeckNexus Top 12 Telco and Tech Podcast, Forrester Top 100 Channel Podcast and Feedspot Top 10 Telecom Podcast. If you enjoy the podcast, would you leave us a short review? It takes you seconds to do in your app and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. And I love reading your feedback and reviews!This week’s guestJason Hogg is a General Manager responsible for the Azure for Operators (AfO) AIOps program, which includes Azure Operator Insights and Azure Operator Service Manager. Prior to AfO, Jason led the creation of the Azure Data Lake Storage platform and Azure Media Services’ AI based Video Analytics service. Jason has 30+ years of experience in software development, having spent the last 21 years at Microsoft where he has also worked in Microsoft Dynamics, Microsoft Research, and Developer Division. Jason holds a MSc (Comp Sci) from University of Washington.Podcast CreditsExecutive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios Royston, TelcoDRSenior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo MediaEditor/Marketing: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard MarketingEditing: Andrew CondellSupervising Producer: Amanda AveryAssociate Producer: Kriselda DionisioMusic: Dyami Wilson

Last week at the NOVACOM 1-to-1 Telco Summit in Kenya, I connected with fellow podcaster Ali Hussein Kassim, host of Ali Talks Tech, which focuses on Africa’s changing tech landscape. We decided to record a joint episode about Totogi’s recent work with Zain to restore critical mobile services in Sudan after they were knocked out due to the ongoing civil war. Abdalla Hamid, Director of IT at Zain Sudan, joined us to talk about how Totogi got Zain back up and running in just 18 days thanks to the power of the public cloud. Listen now to hear:The dire situation Zain Sudan faced when it suffered a 40-day outage of essential services, and how Totogi helped it get back online [06:14];The way Totogi's Charging-as-a-Service revolutionizes telco charging, lowering TCO by up to 80% and deploying in weeks instead of 6-18 months [16:07];Why I’m supercharged about Totogi’s ability to transform the telco industry and help the world's unconnected [20:40].How Totogi and Zain plan to move forward together, leveraging the latest AI tech in Africa—even on 2G networks! [23:39].Links and ResourcesRead the announcement of Totogi’s exciting partnership with ZainCheck out my recent blog and episode 89 to find out why the public cloud is PERFECT for Africa.Watch the video of our conversation on YouTube.Read McKinsey & Company’s recent report, Africa’s leap ahead into cloud: Opportunities and barriersCheck out the Ali Talks Tech podcast for insights on Africa's rapidly changing tech landscape.See the graph showing the networks going down in Sudan in early February.Everyone at the conference got a delicious local welcome gift: Mocha Bombs in dark chocolate. Delicious! Give them a try if you ever get a chance!Check out this episode on our YouTube channel.Read the transcript for this episode here.Wanna talk public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring. Follow DRHave an idea for a Telco in 20 podcast guest or topic? Send it in!Want to sponsor a podcast? Let us knowFollow Telco in 20 on Twitter @TelcoIn20Follow DR on Twitter @TelcoDRThe Telco in 20 podcast won 2022 and 2023 MarComm Awards, a 2022 Gold Hermes Award, and was recognized as a TeckNexus Top 12 Telco and Tech Podcast, Forrester Top 100 Channel Podcast, and Feedspot Top 10 Telecom Podcast. If you enjoy the podcast, would you leave us a short review? It takes you seconds to do in your app and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. And I love reading your feedback and reviews!This week’s guestAbout Ali Hussein Kassim, Ali Talks Tech founder and hostAli is a serial entrepreneur and a regular commentator and contributor on all things tech and the policy and regulatory landscape across Africa and beyond. He consults on digital transformation, and serves in leadership roles on public and private sector boards including Africa Fintech Network, Association of Fintechs in Kenya, and Kenya ICT Action Network. He enjoys mentoring and investing in tech entrepreneurs across Africa. About Abdalla Hamid, Director of IT, Zain, SudanAbdalla Isamaldin Abdalla Hamid is a results-driven professional with 15+ years of experience in project management, business analysis, and digital transformation. As Director of Information Technology (IT), he aligns IT strategy with business goals and oversees IT operations. Abdalla's expertise encompasses BSS, project and program management, software development, automation, IT infrastructure and digital transformation. He holds an MBA and certifications in project management and service engineering. Podcast CreditsExecutive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios Royston, TelcoDRSenior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo MediaEditor/Marketing: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard MarketingEditing: Andrew CondellAssociate Producer: Kriselda DionisioMusic: Dyami Wilson

The hyperscalers are spending billions to build regions in Africa, setting the stage for the public cloud to revolutionize the continent’s telcos. With regulations easing and the number of affordable SaaS solutions growing, African telecoms are poised for an era of growth and success. Are the continent’s telcos ready to make the most of all the public cloud offers? In this episode, I talk with Shay Assaraf, Totogi's chief marketing officer, about their progress with public cloud adoption and Totogi’s groundbreaking deal with Zain Sudan, a Tier 1 mobile network operator (MNO) in the region. Listen now to hear:How all of the Big 3 hyperscalers are expanding their African footprint [04:57];Examples of partnerships between African telcos and hyperscalers for connectivity, AI/ML, cloud computing and more [06:27];Advice for navigating the continent’s data regulations and security concerns when adopting the public cloud [09:24]; andHow Totogi helped Zain Sudan to move off of its Ericsson charger in 18 days [15:03].Links and ResourcesRead the announcement of Totogi’s exciting partnership with ZainRead DR’s blog on why the public cloud is perfect for AfricaCheck out McKinsey & Company’s recent report, Africa’s leap ahead into cloud: Opportunities and barriersDownload a copy of the TelcoDR Data Regulations whitepaperRead about these exciting partnerships between telcos and the hyperscalers!Vodafone and Google Cloud boost data analytics by consolidating data Vodafone and Microsoft bring GenAI, digital services, and the cloud to 300 million +  businesses and consumersVodafone and Amazon to extend connectivity in Africa and Europe through Project KuiperTomorrow.io and MTN Group work with Microsoft to deliver lifesaving weather early warnings in Africa MTN Group and Google CLoud join foces to improve customer experiences with AI/ML-powered insightsAWS partners with Kenya’s Safaricom on cloud and consulting servicesSafaricom partners with Google Cloud to bring economic growth the KenyaNext week find me at Novacom’s 1-to-1 Telco Summit in Diani Beach, Kenya, running April 23 - 25. If you’ll be there too, shoot me a DM on Linkedin or X @TelcoDR so we can meet! I can’t wait to show you our game-changing Totogi platform.As a sponsor of the Summit and in honor of the telco execs attending, Totogi has adopted the Kakuma Vocational Centre in a refugee camp in Kenya as part of our work with Unconnected.org. We’re funding a computer lab for students of all ages with localized learning software, safety training, and free internet access for two years.Wanna see what’s going on with hyperscaler regions in Africa? Take a look at our Hyperscaler Regions Tracker, which tracks live and planned regions across the globe.Check out this episode on our YouTube channel.Read the transcript for this episode here.Wanna talk public cloud? Telco execs, set up a meeting with our team to learn how to tap the immense business value it can bring. Follow DRHave an idea for a Telco in 20 podcast guest or topic? Send it in!Want to sponsor a podcast? Let us knowFollow Telco in 20 on Twitter @TelcoIn20Follow DR on Twitter @TelcoDRThe Telco in 20 podcast won 2022 and 2023 MarComm Awards, a 2022 Gold Hermes Award, and was recognized as a TeckNexus Top 12 Telco and Tech Podcast, Forrester Top 100 Channel Podcast, and Feedspot Top 10 Telecom Podcast. If you enjoy the podcast, would you leave us a short review? It takes you seconds to do in your app and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. And I love reading your feedback and reviews!This week’s guestAbout Shay AssarafShay is a seasoned tech B2B marketing executive with nearly 20 years of experience, specializing in positioning, go-to-market, product marketing and building growth marketing programs for disruptive technologies and practices. He currently serves as a CMO in Totogi where he is part of a leadership team aiming to help telcos monetize their networks through AI and the public cloud. He previously served as a CMO in Gentrack, Sapiens and Optiva, where he played a pivotal role in steering a significant strategic product and go-to-market shifts to enable growth through delivering value to customers and leveraging disruptive technologies and practices. Podcast CreditsExecutive Producer and Host: Danielle Rios Royston, TelcoDRSenior Producer: Lindsay Grubb, TillCo MediaEditor/Marketing: Alisa Jenkins, Springboard MarketingEditing: Andrew CondellAssociate Producer: Kriselda DionisioMusic: Dyami Wilson