
TOPcast: The Teaching Online Podcast
Hosted by Thomas Cavanagh and Kelvin Thompson, the Teaching Online Podcast (TOPcast) takes a fun and informative look at the various trends, best practices and technologies in the realm of online education.
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Jan 20, 2025 • 0sec
Episode 178: Transferable Skills of Digital Learning Professionals
Guest Dr. Vickie Cook joins hosts Kelvin and Tom to discuss unexpected career trajectories for digital learning professionals, especially COLOs, related to sought-after, transferable skill sets.

Jan 6, 2025 • 34min
Episode 177: Creating the Digital Learning Future Our Students Deserve
In celebration of 30 years of OLC conferences and with input and reactions from our community of online/digital learning professionals, including a live audience(!), hosts Tom and Kelvin discuss the issues inherent in predicting and shaping a desirable future for online/digital education over the next 30 years.

Dec 16, 2024 • 34min
Episode 176: Credit for Prior Learning
Guest Dr. Matt Bergman joins Tom and Kelvin to discuss the current role credit for prior learning plays in American higher education and how we can all do a bit more to use this approach effectively in our digital learning work.

Dec 2, 2024 • 30min
Episode 175: “Let’s Stay Focused On What We Can Control” in Online Ed
In this “call-in show” episode, hosts Tom and Kelvin are joined by some of the past year’s guests in sharing observations about 2024 as it ends and predictions and hopes about 2025 as it begins. Some of the themes emerging include balancing humanness and technology-assistance and staying focused on the aspirational goals of our collective work.

Nov 18, 2024 • 37min
Episode 174: Get “All [Phil]’d Up” On LMS/Online Enrollment Insights
Guest Phil Hill joins hosts Kelvin and Tom to discuss substantive insights on the role of the LMS and trends in online higher ed enrollments. (Must see TV. Even if it is a podcast.)

Nov 4, 2024 • 29min
Episode 173: Campus-Based Student Demand for Online Options (and More!) from CHLOE 9
Hosts Tom and Kelvin talk through themes from the CHLOE 9 report that stand out as broadly applicable to all online education professionals while we all seek to anticipate or shape the future.

Oct 22, 2024 • 33min
Episode 172: Online Education in Guatemala
Guest and former Hubert Humphrey Fellow Angelica Gabriela Rocha Guevara joins hosts Tom and Kelvin from Guatemala to discuss the similarities and differences of her country’s pursuit of online education compared to that of other countries around the globe.

Oct 7, 2024 • 30min
Episode 171: The “North Star” of Online Learners’ Needs
Hosts Kelvin and Tom consider the centrality that online learners’ needs must have in shaping the work of online higher education. Particular attention is given to how responsibility for this common goal must be shared between individual faculty and institutional processes to assure quality at scale.

Sep 16, 2024 • 34min
Episode 170: “Wise Use” of Rapidly Changing AI Tools
Return guest Nicolaas Matthijs joins hosts Tom and Kelvin to discuss some of the trends he’s seeing in the rapidly changing AI-assisted technology space with an eye toward how digital learning professionals can make wise use of the tools in our work.

Sep 3, 2024 • 34min
Episode 169: You Know Your Institution is Doing Online Ed Strategically When…
Hosts Tom and Kelvin discuss the relationship between the strategic value institutions find in online education and institutions establishing senior roles of responsibility for online and digital learning. Implications for a variety of institutional roles are considered.
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Content Links
[Research study] “A National Study of Online Learning Leaders in US Higher Education” (Fredericksen, 2017)
[Research study] “A National Study of Online Learning Leaders in US Community Colleges” (Fredericksen, 2018)
UPCEA Hallmarks of Excellence in Online Leadership
[UPCEA article] “The Chief Online Learning Officer: Competencies, Roles, and Trajectories” (Herron, Lashley, Salley, and Shaw, 2016)
[From UPCEA, 2023] “Definition Update: Chief Online Learning Officer (COLO)”
[Edited book] From Grassroots to the Highly Orchestrated: Online Leaders Share Their Stories of the Evolving Online Organizational Landscape in Higher Education (Bouchey, Graz, Kurland, 2023)
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