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Jun 22, 2023 • 18min

Talking Libor transition with Dan Ko, Eagle Point Credit Management

The end of Libor is a little over a week away, and some US corporate borrowers are still racing to switch their floating rate loans to SOFR ahead of the 30 June deadline.The loan market’s transition away from the old reference rate has been slow, but increasingly contentious in recent months. Borrowers, lenders and financial sponsors have tussled over the compensation offered to loan investors to swap into the lower-yielding SOFR benchmark.In this week’s edition of Cloud 9fin, US deputy editor David Bell sat down with Dan Ko, a senior principal and portfolio manager at Eagle Point Credit Management to talk about how CLO equity investors rallied loan buyers to resist off-market SOFR amendments — as well as the challenges and opportunities in CLO equity as more deals exit their reinvestment periods.
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Jun 15, 2023 • 18min

SBB’s fall from grace

Samhallsbyggnadsbolaget (SBB) has had a tough couple of months, after losing its investment grade rating and with some bondholders now arguing the company has breached a key covenant under its bond documentation.For this week’s episode of Cloud9fin, Bianca Boorer sits down with Hazik Siddiqui and David Orbay-Graves to look into the Swedish real estate firm’s recent accounting revisions, ways it can address its bloated capital structure and thoughts on recoveries.
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Jun 8, 2023 • 27min

The household names in private credit, with Craig Packer of Blue Owl

Private credit is attracting plenty of new faces these days, but as we wrote in this week’s Unicrunch newsletter, a handful of household names dominate fundraising and dealmaking.Craig Packer is one of those names. Owl Rock, the direct lending firm he co-founded back in 2016, was already a power player in direct lending before it merged with Dyal Capital in 2021 to create Blue Owl; he’s now at the helm of one of private credit’s biggest brands, as investor interest in the sector is going mainstream.For this week’s episode of the podcast, our private credit editor David Brooke sat down with Craig to talk about deals, documentation, retail investors and the threat of a recession — and Blue Owl’s efforts to dictate terms and keep lending standards tight.
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Jun 1, 2023 • 15min

Pizza Express started a record label

Why is Pizza Express getting into the music business? Well, these plans have been in the works for a while, and they actually make more sense than you might think.That doesn’t mean this venture is without risk — especially as the company’s margins are deteriorating, and it’s had some troublesome relations with hourly workers over the past few months.So how does PX Records, the group’s new jazz-focused music imprint, fit into the broader business plan? For this week’s episode of the podcast, host Sammy Cole sits down with US managing editor Will Caiger-Smith to get the download.
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May 30, 2023 • 16min

Bruno Cova, Greenberg Traurig

9fin’s distressed reporter Bianca Boorer travels to Milan to sit down with Bruno Cova, Partner and European co-chair of restructuring and insolvency at law firm Greenberg Traurig.Cova takes us through his illustrious career so far, from working for the Italian government, on Parmalat, Europe’s largest fraud case, to moving into private practice and working on big restructuring cases such Moby and Maccaferri.He gives his insights into the benefits and drawbacks of the recent reform in the Italian bankruptcy law as well as what to look out for in distress going forward.
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May 25, 2023 • 20min

Artificial analysts aren't at all amazing

Ever pulled an all-nighter to prepare a pitch, or had your weekend ruined by a last-minute fire drill from your MD? Imagine if artificial intelligence could crunch the numbers and format the slidedeck for you. What would you do with the extra free time?But also, what valuable, formative experiences might you miss out on if you could outsource rote tasks to technology? And how might that change the culture of your institution?Everyone’s talking about AI, and how it could revolutionize basically everything. We wanted to figure out what it might mean — both good and bad — for the debt markets, so 9fin reporters William Hoffman and Shubham Saharan hit the phones for some philosophical conversations.In this week’s episode of the podcast, we’re asking: is AI coming for your finance job?
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May 18, 2023 • 12min

Drop-downs, the Lycra variant

This episode discusses Lycra's unique variant of the drop-down mechanism and its last-minute refinancing of its 2023 notes. The podcast explores how Lycra used intellectual property to create a new SPV and pledged assets outside the restricted group as collateral. It also analyzes the impact of the new transaction on existing bondholders and their capacity to make restricted payments or secure debt.
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May 11, 2023 • 14min

Focus and Foresight

The podcast explores Focus Financial's unique loan deal that allowed them to fund an acquisition without refinancing existing debt, discussing the implications of the wording of the credit agreement. They also delve into CD&R's strategy of majority equity ownership without board control, the complexities in sponsor and board dynamics, potential legal action for lenders due to change of control, and the maneuver's implications for future situations.
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May 4, 2023 • 16min

Benteler, private take-privates and SFDR updates

The 9fin team explores the influence of Benteler’s debut bond deal with Josh Latham. Josie Shillito guides us through the growing trend of private take-privates and Jennifer Munnings discusses the recent clarifications from the European Commission on the Sustainable Finance Disclosure Regulation (SFDR).
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Apr 27, 2023 • 20min

The early days of private credit, with Tim Lyne of Antares Capital

These days, private credit is becoming so popular that you could be forgiven for thinking it was a recent invention.But some people were doing private credit before it was cool. Tim Lyne is one of those people — when he and a group of colleagues founded Antares Capital back in the nineties, the idea of a jumbo unitranche must have seemed like a pipe dream.For this week’s episode of the Cloud 9fin podcast, our private credit editor David Brooke sat down with Tim to discuss the growth of the market, how managers are preparing for the credit cycle to turn, and where the biggest risks are right now.

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