
What Next?
"What Next?" explores the evolving landscape of business, leadership, advertising, and the future of work. Hosted by Rishad Tobaccowala, the podcast dives into how globalization, technology, and demographic shifts reshape how we create, consume, and communicate. Rishad Tobaccowala engages with CEOs, creative leaders, and visionaries to discuss innovative strategies, technology’s impact on media, and leadership challenges in the future of work. Hear unique insights from academics, futurists, and media innovators on navigating today’s business world.
Latest episodes

Jan 28, 2023 • 39min
Falling Forward Fast
Andrew Swinand, CEO of Publicis Groupe, Creative and Production, United States, CEO of the Leo Burnett group and co-founder of Abundant Venture Partners on how problems can be an unlikely means of generating growth. Learn the power of human failings and of kindness in business.

Jan 21, 2023 • 32min
Heads Down, Heads Up and Heads Together
Annette King, group CEO for the Publicis Groupe in the UK on the impact and opportunities post-Pandemic work culture is offering brands and the communications industry. Learn what the pattern of talent movement, including the Great Resignation, can teach us about the future of the work space.

Jan 14, 2023 • 42min
Creativity and the Seven Plus Rating system
Michael Conrad, founder of the Berlin School of Creative Leadership and former vice chairman and chief creative officer of Leo Burnett on cross functionality leadership, idiosyncratic shifts and one-word strategies that inspire change. Learn the importance of creativity, of brave thinking and of challenging the status quo.

Jan 7, 2023 • 39min
Kindness and Trust: The Real Value of Business?
Mark Achler is a venture capitalist investor, a CEO, a serial entrepreneur and a faculty member at Northwestern University's Kellogg School of Management. He also is the co-author of Exit Right which discusses how companies and startups can plan their best exit. Mark believes that the human is the key to a successful company; learn how kindness and trust can create an environment that allows people to innovate, and how to enable and empower a community of employees and customers to advocate for your brand.Further readings: Exit Right by Mark Achler and Mert Iseri https://www.exitrightbook.comMark Achler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markachler/

Dec 17, 2022 • 39min
AI. The Next Frontier in Marketing
Sarah Fay is a partner at Glasswing Ventures a first-capital-in venture capital firm investing in the next generation of intelligent enterprise and frontier technology startups. She is a pioneer and leader in marketing being the former North American CEO of Isobar and Aegis Media. Learn how AI will help us all as individuals, completely change the way marketing is created, distributed and measured and the keys to being a successful investor including pattern recognition. Further reading links: Glasswing Venture: https://glasswing.vc/Sarah Fay: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahfayboston/

Dec 10, 2022 • 36min
Person Plus Machine: The Future Of Our Work?
AI pioneer Yoav Shoham discusses the future impact of machine learning on work, predicting chatbots as primary consumer interfaces, software as copywriting partners, and hyper-personalized audience segmentation. He explores AI's role in marketing, potential legislative effects, and the balance between automation and human creativity in various industries.

Dec 3, 2022 • 36min
The Lies We Have Been Fed!
Fabrice Braunrot was Vice-Chairman of JP Morgan Chase and is now the Co-Founder of Harvest Ridge Capital. Fabrice discusses two of his obsessions; how to eat well and how to build great client relationships. Learn about “green washing” and why we need many more nuclear reactors! If you want to build trusting relationships, do not read from a script, but instead, solve their problems and also consider the art of the French Impressionists!

Nov 26, 2022 • 44min
Hacking Heads
Moran Cerf, former hacker and now neuroscientist and business professor at the Kellogg School of Management, predicts why every company will need a neuroscientist on the board, the ethical challenges presented by the marketing opportunities of artificial intelligence machines reading and writing our dreams, and why, as more people choose to have a neural implant, a new class in society will emerge.Further reading links: Website: morancerf.com Twitter: twtrdtcm

Nov 19, 2022 • 39min
The Misinformation Problem With Programmatic
Gordon Crovitz and Steven Brill, co-founders and co-CEO’s of Newsguard show how programmatic advertising has been funding billions of dollars worth of misinformation and what can be done about it.Further reading links:To learn more about NewsGuard and its work to help ad agencies and clients with brand safety against misinformation, visit NewsGuard’s website: https://www.newsguardtech.com/solutions/brandguard/ Learn more about how $2.6 billion every year is unintentionally spent in programmatic advertising by brands to support misinformation sites, promoting everything from healthcare hoaxes to Russian disinformation about Ukraine: https://www.newsguardtech.com/special-reports/brands-send-billions-to-misinformation-websites-newsguard-comscore-report This explains why MediaPost named NewsGuard the advertising Supplier of the Year: https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/370068/2021-media-supplier-of-the-year-newsguard.html This is NewsGuard’s annual Social Impact Report: https://www.newsguardtech.com/special-reports/social-impact-report-2021For more information including about how Publicis makes NewsGuard protections available for its clients, please contact Sarah Brandt, Head of Partnerships for NewsGuard, at sarah.brandt@newsguardtech.com. Follow NewsGuard on Twitter: @NewsGuardRating

Nov 12, 2022 • 40min
Web3: The End of Business As Usual?
GC Cooke, an entrepreneur and FTSE 100 NED, discusses Web 3: The End of Business As Usual, discusses his groundbreaking new book that aims to educate readers about the potential of web3 for businesses and society. The book is the first on the subject written from the perspective of an established business leader. Using established strategic frameworks and a broad historical overview of the internet’s development, Web3 – The End of Business-As-Usual tells why web3 will usher in a supply-side revolution that will change the way in which the world makes things and how people work together.Further reading links:www.web3thebook.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamccooke/https://www.linkedin.com/company/web3-the-end-of-business-as-usual/https://www.amazon.co.uk/Web3-End-Business-As-Usual-GC-Cooke/dp/1915036860/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Y2QDE3MGU75Y&keywords=web3+the+end+of+business+as+usual&qid=1668077343&sprefix=%2Caps%2C204&sr=8-1