
The Post Game Podcast
A podcast sharing the stories of former athletes who have successfully navigated the transition out of sports into "what's next." 70+ episodes, released weekly!
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Aug 6, 2024 • 44min
Ep. 38 - JR Butler, Founder & CEO of Shift Group: Burning The Boats and Controlling Your Own Destiny
JR Butler is the Founder & CEO of Shift Group. Shift Group connects former college, pro, and Olympic athletes and military veterans with meaningful employment opportunities at companies looking to minimize new-hire risk.
Their mission is to help athletes and vets transition to the work force and find purpose and passion after their playing days.
JR grew up in Marlboro, MA and played college hockey at Holy Cross before launching a successful sales career with companies Pillir and Turbonomic.
What You’ll Learn About:
· You’re in control of your own destiny
· Burning the Boats
· What makes a strong team?
· What happens when the cheering stops?
· How did JR start Shift Group?
· Doing every job in the company
Timestamps:
(0:00) – Intro to JR
(2:10) – Nobody Cares Work Harder
(3:30) – Oldest of 3 brothers
(7:50) – Hockey at Holy Cross
(11:00) – The team above everything else
(12:50) – Accountability to your teammates
(13:30) – Chief Culture Officer
(15:00) – What makes a strong team?
(16:30) – Picking up the pucks
(17:30) – Transition out of hockey
(20:30) – Veteran buddies struggling with same stuff
(22:30) – Flipping his mindset
(27:30) – The idea for Shift Group
(29:50) – Burning the boats
(31:00) – How did it start?
(32:10) – Job Posting on Indeed
(34:45) – 22 Team Members
(36:45) – Entrepreneurial Road
(37:30) – Leadership style
(40:10) – Shift Group’s Mission
(42:00) – Branching into other industries
(43:10) – Where to Find Shift Group
Links:
https://shiftgroup.io/
JR Butler LinkedIn
Shift Group LinkedIn
Shift Group Instagram
The Post Game Podcast on Instagram
email: joe.poduslenko@gmail.com

Jul 29, 2024 • 32min
Ep. 37 - Adam White, Founder & CEO of Front Office Sports: Taking the Business of Sports Mainstream
Adam White is the Founder & CEO of Front Office Sports, the leading media brand covering the business of sports.
While a student at The University of Miami, he interviewed over 100 influential figures in sports for a class project. These conversations sparked the idea for FOS, which as of 2023, has been valued at over $40
million.
Front Office Sports is bringing the business of sports to
the everyday fan and has amassed over 1 billion impressions across social platforms through the first half of 2024.
What You’ll Learn About:
The Founding of Front Office Sports
People telling him what they wanted and evolving
from there
Money driving sports domestically and internationally
What 1 Billion Impressions on social media looks like
Sacrifices vs. Trade Offs
Timestamps:
(0:00) – Intro to Adam
(2:10) – The origin of FOS
(5:00) – 110 Informational Interviews
(6:15) – Long Term relationships from Interviews
(7:15) – First interview he did
(8:15) – Taking action and getting feedback
(10:00) – Where is the audience taking us?
(11:20) – Money driving sports
(11:50) – Niche in focus, not in scale
(13:20) – Building franchises around personalities
(14:50) – Where do you start with personalities?
(16:40) – What makes a great brand?
(18:00) – Sauce Gardner
(19:30) – Taking business of sports mainstream
(20:30) – Prioritizing his time
(21:20) – Making trade offs
(22:10) – Competition keeping him going
(22:45) – His parents and siblings
(24:30) – What’s next for FOS?
(25:30) – How to go from low 8 figure biz to mid 8 figure biz
(27:10) – What say do investors have in decisions?
(28:10) – LinkedIn engagement
(29:50) – Where is Adam most active?
(30:30) – Finding a niche
Where to Find Adam and FOS?
Frontofficesports.com
Front Office Sports Newsletter
Adam White LinkedIn
Adam White Twitter
Front Office Sports Twitter
Front Office Sports Instagram
Front Office Sports LinkedIn

Jul 10, 2024 • 1h 12min
Ep. 36 - Adam Greenberg: Detachment from Results, Preparing for the Opportunity, Setting Little Goals
Adam Greenberg is a former Major League Baseball player with the Chicago Cubs and Miami Marlins. After playing 3 years of baseball at The University of North Carolina, he was drafted by the Chicago Cubs in the 9th round of the MLB Draft.
On July 7, 2005, Adam was called up to the big leagues with the Cubs. On the very first pitch he saw, he was hit in the head by a 92 mph.
Over the next 7 years, he would fight positional vertigo, terrible headaches, nausea, double vision and dizziness, all while keeping his dream to make it back to the big leagues alive.
Seven years later, on October 2, 2012, Adam got a chance at one more MLB At Bat with the Miami Marlins, after they signed him to a 1 Day Contract with the club.
He also played for Team Israel in the 2013 World Baseball Classic, started and sold a health & wellness company Lurong Living. He currently resides in Connecticut with his wife and three children.
What You’ll Learn About:
What do you “have to have?”
Doing everything in your power to create opportunities for yourself
Preparing for the opportunity and detaching from the result
It’s not enough to talk about doing something, you have to back it up
However much you’re doing, someone else is doing more
What are you doing when nobody’s looking?
You can always push through and become better
Timestamps:
(0:00) – Intro to Adam
(2:30) – Interviews over the years
(3:45) – Drive to be the best as a kid
(5:00) – You have it or need to be challenged
(6:00) – Consistently challenging yourself
(7:10) – What do you have to have?
(10:00) – The result is irrelevant
(11:30) – Preparing for the opportunity
(13:30) – Confidence in your abilities
(15:00) – Recruitment to UNC
(16:05) – Negotiating his scholarship offer
(19:00) – Let your playing do the talking
(22:45) – Standing up for what you believe
(24:00) – Gaining Confidence
(26:30) – First time sports were taken from him
(27:30) – How do you react to having something taken from you?
(28:20) – Setting little goals
(32:10) – The call up to the big leagues
(36:50) – The first big league at bat
(37:40) – The first pitch
(40:40) – Someone else is doing more
(41:50) – I’m not going back
(43:30) – Giving everything he could to make it back
(48:40) – Facing Valerio De Los Santos years later
(52:50) – Phone call from Matt Liston
(57:10) – Get me an opportunity
(1:00:30) – Call from the Marlins
(1:02:00) – What are you doing when nobody’s looking?
(1:04:20) – Competitor
(1:05:30) – Preparation and Success
(1:07:30) – Never Give Up
(1:09:30) – Becoming comfortable sharing his story
(1:10:30) – Where to Find Adam
Links:
https://www.adamgreenbergofficial.com/
Get Up: The Art of Perseverance
Adam Greenberg Twitter
Adam Greenberg Instagram

Jul 1, 2024 • 1h 1min
Ep. 35 - Ian Miller: The 9 Hole Podcast, Playing Your Game, Earning Confidence
Ian Miller is a former professional baseball player with the Seattle Mariners, Minnesota Twins, and Chicago Cubs.
After playing 3 years of college baseball at Wagner College, he was drafted by the Seattle Mariners in the 14th round of the 2013 MLB Amateur Draft.
He is the Founder of Rellimnai Enterprises and the increasingly popular 9 Hole Podcast, where his goal is to empower & inspire the next generation of “9-Hole Hitters” through stories, interviews, and insights with former ballplayers and others in the game.
Ian also writes the 9 Hole Newsletter, providing practical tips to ballplayers on mindset, physical skills, and more.
Since May 6th, 2024, the 9 Hole Podcast has amassed over 11.6 million views on social media platforms (as of June 17, 2024).
What You’ll Learn About:
Emailing every D1 school in country for an opportunity
“Playing your game”
Overcoming adversity
Overthinking and slowing it down
Coaches having connection with players off the field
Crafting your environment
You have to learn or earn confidence
Volume x Time = Skill
Higher you go, preparation gets more intense
You’re all in or you’re all out
Transition away from baseball
Notebooks and tracking progress
What is the 9 Hole Podcast?
Timestamps:
(0:00) – Intro to Ian
(5:10) – Resiliency
(8:00) – Sticking to your skillset
(8:40) – Dream to play in the big leagues
(9:50) – Baseball in the family
(10:30) – Earliest baseball memories
(12:30) – Adversity early on at Wagner
(16:00) – REAL adversity propelling you to success
(18:30) – Nobody cares
(19:40) – When you think you stinks
(23:20) – Coaches maximizing his potential
(25:15) – You have a choice
(26:15) – External not affecting the internal
(27:20) – Confidence
(29:20) – Faking confidence
(31:30) – Emulating success people
(32:45) – Robinson Cano
(35:00) – Separating himself in off-season
(35:50) – Outlasting everyone
(36:45) – Ever think about hanging ‘em up?
(38:45) – Favorite story in the big leagues
(41:10) – Hanging up the cleats
(43:00) – Interest in Finance
(46:20) – Call from Jamie Moyer – notebook
(50:15) – Manifesting and staying positive
(51:00) – The 9 Hole Podcast
(53:10) – Millions of views
(54:10) – Same as playing, but different
(55:30) – Opportunities and partnerships
(58:20) – Where to Find Ian and 9 Hole
(1:00:00) – 9 Hole Newsletter
Contact / Find Content:
9 Hole Podcast YouTube
9 Hole Podcast Apple Podcasts
The 9 Hole Newsletter
The 9 Hole Instagram
rellimnai.com

Jun 20, 2024 • 55min
Ep. 34 - Dr. Ismael Gallo, Founder of Baseball Flows: Movement Patterns, Neuroplasticity, and Self Belief
Dr. Ismael Gallo is a former professional baseball player and current doctor of Physical Therapy.
After playing 5 seasons in the Los Angeles Dodgers minor league system and while launching his career in the PT field, he created “Baseball Flows,” a system that helps players create body awareness and ultimately move better.
His Baseball Flows app includes therapeutic exercises and instructional videos, carefully selected to address the specific needs of players.
In his own words, he is eliminating the complexities often associated with training systems with a click and train approach.
His goal is to empower players to take control of their training and embrace the joy of every moment spent training and on the field.
What You’ll Learn About:
High School drop out to professional baseball and getting a doctorate
Missing component of movement patterns
Can we get players to move better?
Compete, have fun, be a good teammate
Transition from being pro player to going back to school
Interconnectedness – nothing works in isolation
Developmental kinesiology
Systems are always evolving
Great coaches understand the fundamentals, have BS meter
Players exploring and having fun
Neuroplasticity in stroke patients
The idea that anything can grow
What you focus on can change quicker
Using social media for positivity
Believing in yourself
Random Things equal Random Results
Importance of body awareness
Timestamps:
(0:00) – Intro to Dr. Ismael Gallo
(3:00) – Unconventional path
(3:40) – Impact of Coaches
(5:00) – Natural lefty swing
(6:00) – Can we get players to move better?
(7:00) – Alex Cora
(8:15) - .340 at 160 lbs.
(9:00) – Information overload
(10:30) – The beginning of Baseball Flows
(11:30) – Gaps in teaching movement
(13:30) – Everything is connected
(15:15) – Global Movement Patterns
(16:10) – Developmental Kinesiology
(16:50) – Movement screen
(18:50) – Baseball Flows app
(20:00) – Don’t have to overcomplicate
(21:50) – Fundamentals
(22:15) – Understanding when good info ends and BS begins
(24:00) – Figuring it out yourself
(26:20) – Neuroplasticity
(28:40) – Anything can grow
(30:00) – Deliberate practice
(30:45) – Athleticism
(31:45) – Power of Social Media
(34:15) – Focus on the positive and put in the work
(36:20) – Advice to young players
(37:20) – Self Belief
(39:10) – Being too coachable
(39:45) – Tommy Pham
(41:20) – Where to find Dr. Gallo
(42:00) – Random Things = Random Results
(45:45) – B Till perspective
(47:00) – Body awareness
(50:00) – Hard to do the movements?
(51:50) – Flows on the golf course
https://baseballflows.com/
Baseball Flows on X.com
Dr. Ismael Gallo DPT, MBA on X.com
Baseball Flows on Instagram

Jun 10, 2024 • 49min
Ep. 33 - Geoff Miller: Founder of Dots Miller LLC, MLB Mental Skills Coach, Author of "Intangibles"
Geoff Miller is a highly regarded expert in baseball psychology. He provides mental skills coaching to professional and amateur athletes, coaching to executives and business teams, and coaching for retiring athletes transitioning into life after sports.
He was the founding partner at Winning Mind LLC and a mental skills coach with the Pittsburgh Pirates, Washington Nationals, Atlanta Braves, LA Angels, and Philadelphia Phillies.
His book Intangibles: Big League Stories and Strategies for Winning the Mental Game – in Baseball and in Life, gives an inside look at the mental game of baseball through real life stories.
Most recently, he is the founder of Dots Miller, LLC, where he continues to work with elite performers to help them accomplish their goals.
He is also part of the team at Optimize Mind Performance, an app at the forefront of science and technology in the mental performance space providing mental performance coaching for athletes and organizations.
What You’ll Learn About:
Knowing that you want something and having no idea how you’ll get it
Dealing with rejection going after what you want
High achievers wanting to do well and getting out of their own way
Finding the key that unlocks something for a player
Athletes transitioning out of their playing days
App Optimize Mind Performance
Chipper Jones’ mental approach
Philosophies of Baseball IQ and Character Development Inventory
Timestamps:
(0:00) – Intro to Geoff Miller
(2:25) – John Kirwan
(4:45) – Writing letters to MLB organizations
(5:40) – Goal without a plan is a wish?
(7:10) – Phone call from Allard Baird
(8:20) – Do you have to be confident all the time?
(10:40) – Bobby Kingsbury
(12:40) – I know I can do better
(15:20) – The people that work on it the most always have questions
(16:40) – How do you measure success when you’re not getting results?
(17:00) – Jackson Holliday / Andrew McCutchen
(18:30) – Experiencing failure yourself
(19:50) – Movie scenes to relate to players
(20:45) – “Intangibles” is timeless
(21:20) – Relating to next generation of players
(22:10) – Understanding what motivates and drives players
(23:30) – Looking for perfect way to relate
(24:40) – Athlete transitions
(27:30) – Don’t compare it to baseball
(29:00) – Baseball lessons to corporate world and vice versa
(30:30) – One real job in his life
(32:25) – So you’ve never actually worked a day in your life?
(33:15) – Optimize Mind Performance
(36:20) – Universities using the app for athletic departments
(37:45) – Relevance to travel ball orgs and colleges
(40:00) – Geoff’s podcast
(42:00) – What do YOU need to do to be successful?
(44:00) – Chipper Jones
(46:00) – Insinuating that it’s possible to be mentally weak
(47:00) – Check out Intangibles
(48:00) – Where to learn more about Geoff
Dotsmiller.com
Optimizemindperformance.com
Geoff Miller on Twitter
Order his book "Intangibles" on Amazon
Email me: joe.poduslenko@gmail.com

Jun 5, 2024 • 43min
Ep. 32 - Gregg Swanson, The Warrior Mind Coach: Potential, The Complacent Zone, Overcoming Self-Limiting Beliefs
Gregg Swanson, The Warrior Mind Coach, is a peak performance coach specializing in physical, emotional, spiritual, and mental strength coaching
His life defining moment came in 1998, when he survived an avalanche while descending from the top of Mt. Rainier.
Gregg works with driven individuals who want to reach personal goals and achieve new levels of personal success.
He asks three main questions:
1. Are you prepared to make a change?
2. Once you have made the decision to change, are you courageous enough to start?
3. Will you commit to finishing what you started?
Gregg offers “corporate warrior” training, Peak performance training, and Men Coaching.
What You’ll Learn About:
Correlation between sales success and physical activity
How can I help the other person look good?
Front-loading your day with important tasks
Importance of preparation
Being Afraid of our potential
It’s easier to make excuses as to why we can’t do something
What’s going to happen if you don’t change?
Quantum physics and creating your reality
Difference between “warrior” and victim
OK to express what you don’t want as long as you can pivot to what you DO want
Inspiring others through how we’re living
Timestamps:
(0:00) – Intro to Gregg
(2:00) – Gregg’s family and background
(4:15) – His sales career
(6:15) – Correlation between working out and sales
(7:00) – Confidence
(9:30) – Focusing on the relationship in sales
(10:50) – Do the proactive stuff first
(12:50) – Life-altering experience
(15:30) – Being prepared
(18:00) – We don’t rise to occasion, we fall to level of training
(19:00) – Placing limitations on ourselves
(19:45) – Our complacent zone
(20:45) – Setting a new standard
(22:15) – We can be our own worst enemy
(25:15) – How are you measuring yourself?
(27:45) – While You are Waiting
(29:15) – Joe Dispenza
(30:45) – Meditation
(34:20) – You can change it
(35:45) – Be, Do, Have
(38:50) – At every point we’re at a decision
(40:10) – Legacy he’s leaving
(42:00) – Clarity around coaching vs. therapy
(42:30) – Where to Find Gregg
Warriormindcoach.com
Podcast & Blog Posts
Instagram
LinkedIn

May 28, 2024 • 49min
Ep. 31 - Nate Fish, The King of Jewish Baseball: Pushing Back on Conventional Wisdom, Following Your Dreams, and Israel Baseball
Nate Fish, aka the King of Jewish Baseball, has had quite the baseball journey.
After graduating from the University of Cincinnati with his dreams of playing in the big leagues squandered, he began training youth baseball players in New York City.
Over two decades later, he has played professional softball and baseball. He has traveled the world in a baseball uniform, been part of Israeli National team coaching staffs, competed in the World Baseball Classic and Olympics, coached elite college baseball players in the Cape Cod League, and helped manage the increasingly popular Savannah Bananas.
His phone has continued to ring along the way for the next opportunity.
Today, he is the CEO of Israel Baseball Americas, a 501c3 whose mission is to give Team Israel players and fans a common outlet for their interest in Israel Baseball and provide human and financial resources to the Israel National Team program.
What You’ll Learn About:
Knowing when to shut up and learn
The really good coaches don’t have as much to say
The best advice is support
Ability to focus and compete
Different outlets for expression
His work with Israel Baseball Americas
Thoughts on following your dreams vs. doing something useful first
Timestamps:
(0:00) – Intro to Nate
(2:50) – Pushing back against conventional wisdom
(4:20) – His background
(7:00) – College career at Cincinnati
(8:30) – Taking a step back to develop
(9:55) – Going back to school
(11:30) – Phone Call that got him back on the field
(13:10) - Fast pitch softball
(14:20) – Still curious, How good am I?
(14:50) – What was his game like?
(16:50) – Getting into the coaching side
(18:20) – World Baseball Classic
(19:20) – Adam Greenberg
(20:45) – Imposter Syndrome
(23:50) – Lessons during his coaching journey
(25:30) – Thoughts on advice
(27:00) – Robinson Cano story
(28:10) – Separators for the guys that are the best
(29:45) – Can you teach competing?
(32:00) – His creative work
(34:50) – Israel Baseball Americas
(39:20) – He’s got a crazy story!
(40:00) – Still want to get to the big leagues
(41:00) – Following Your Dreams
(43:00) – Do something useful and it will become your
passion
(44:45) – Unhappiness and entitlement
(45:30) – Becoming a father
(47:00) – His Article: “Two Things”
(48:15) – Where to find The King of Jewish Baseball
Links:
kingofjewishbaseball.com
Two Things: The Unbelievable, Unlikely, Unavoidable Convergence of Israel Baseball and Me
Email: nate.fish@israelbaseball.org

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May 22, 2024 • 47min
Ep. 30 - The Real Estate God: Confidence Coming After Losses, Rewiring Your Thoughts on Risk, Future of W-2 Work
The Real Estate God, a REPE Firm Founder, talks about building confidence after losses, rethinking risk evaluation, and the future of W-2 work. Topics include organic networking, passion in work, making mistakes early, growth of confidence, thoughts on W-2 jobs, and importance of a business partner.

May 13, 2024 • 59min
Ep. 29 - Jack Barry: Going an Inch Wide and Mile Deep, Building Trust with Athletes, and Untapped Potential
Jack Barry is a former All-American at Salisbury University.
He is the owner of JB Performance, where he provides remote and in-person / hybrid training to pitchers from the high school level through the major leagues.
He is also the Host of the "Just Rippin" podcast.
Jack is passionate about impacting as many ballplayers as he can and helping them fulfill their full potential.
What You’ll Learn About:
Yin and Yang between college coaching staff
Thinking things into existence - good and bad
Growing audience on twitter with consistent niche content
Becoming an expert in one thing vs. being average in a bunch of things
Having skin in the game to get better
Open and honest communication between coaches and athletes
Taking aggressive action towards something you want
Throwing 95 at 185
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Intro to Jack
(1:50) - Sketch
(3:15) - Youngest of 3
(5:15) - Getting to Salisbury
(9:00) - Relationship with college coaches
(12:40) - Sports Psych
(13:30) - Imposter syndrome
(15:30) - Figuring out what to do after college
(18:15) - Tread Athletics
(19:00) - Starting to post content
(23:00) - Hey man, don’t do that
(24:45) - Initial tweets that blew up
(27:10) - Inch wide mile deep
(30:30) - Going all in on baseball stuff
(31:30) - His coaching business
(32:50) - Establishing trust with athletes
(34:45) - Skin in the game
(37:20) - Looking for the next big thing vs. slow progress
(41:20) - The business side of it
(43:30) - No free lunch
(45:00) - Stability vs. making the jump
(48:30) - Meat Mafia
(49:50) - Curiosity about performance / health
(52:00) - Human potential is untapped
(54:15) - Nicotine
(57:45) - Where to Find Jack
Train.jackbarryperformance.com
Twitter
Instagram
Tik Tok
LinkedIn