
Vertical Playpen
Want to learn more about Adventure and Experiential Education? Then this podcast is for you!
Listeners of this podcast will get;
- Adventure Programming Theory
- Facilitation Tips
- Activity Ideas
- Industry Career Advice
- Interviews from Industry Professionals
High 5 Adventure Learning Center is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to helping individuals, teams, schools, communities and businesses improve the way they live, learn and work together. Connect with us at high5adventure.org
Latest episodes

Oct 24, 2023 • 11min
Facilitation Differences - USA vs England
In this episode, Lisa sits down with Phil to explore the intriguing question: Is there a difference between English facilitation style and the US facilitation style? *Note - these views are specific to Phil's experiences and thoughts. Phil delves into various aspects, shedding light on the nuances that make each style unique. From energy and positivity to the use of curse words, Phil shares his thoughts on the cultural distinctions that shape facilitation on either side of the Atlantic. Join the conversation as they discuss the role of summer camps in the US, providing an insight into how these cultural elements influence the world of facilitation. If you're curious about the cross-cultural aspects of facilitation, this episode is a must-listen. Share your thoughts on this subject; Email - podcast@high5adventure.org Instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and sound effects - epidemicsound.com

Oct 17, 2023 • 14min
What Makes a Group "Great"?
Join Phil and Lisa as they embark on an insightful exploration of the question, "What makes a group great?" We've all been there, finishing a program, and when asked, "How was the group?" we casually respond with "They were great." But what exactly defines greatness in a group? Is it the absence of issues, genuine camaraderie, collective learning, or something more? Here are some factors a facilitator might consider that impact how much a group may struggle (as mentioned by Lisa): Social, Emotional, Economic and Cultural history of the group Length of Program (hours) Structure of the program (in school, year long, field trip) Goals of Program Relationship facilitator has to group Relationship facilitator has to the “Client” or chaperone Experience level of Facilitator If you have a topic or question for us to discuss you can send it to; Email - podcast@high5adventure.org Instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and sound effects - epidemicsound.com

Oct 10, 2023 • 15min
Music and Unique Locations
Join Phil and Lisa in this special episode as they address two intriguing questions from you, the podcast listeners. In the first segment, they delve into the ways music can be used when facilitating group activities. They share ways that it has been successful and ways that should be avoided. In the second part of the episode, the question focuses on unique locations that they have facilitated in; a wedding, an army base and snowy canadian mountains. Submit your questions to be answered on a future episode; Email - podcast@high5adventure.org Instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and Sound Effects - epidemicsound.com

Oct 3, 2023 • 22min
Freezing in the Air
In this episode, join Phil and Rich as they dive into a fascinating discussion on the causes and effective strategies to reduce that moment when participants freeze in the air on a ropes course. Drawing from their extensive experience in outdoor adventure and team-building activities, they explore the psychology behind this common challenge and offer practical tips to help facilitators navigate their participant's fear. Strategies include; Framing the day and creating an atmosphere of choice Designing the program that scaffolds skill and challenge Allowing participants to be lowered at any point in the their climb Submit your questions to; email - podcast@high5adventure.org instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and sound effects - epidemicsound.com Episode supported by Stickermule. Create your own custom stickers - https://www.stickermule.com/custom-stickers

Sep 19, 2023 • 11min
Adventure and the Unknown
In this thought-provoking episode Phil and Lisa delve deep into the world of adventure education and one specific component: the concept of the unknown. Traditionally, adventure education often emphasizes keeping participants in the dark, shrouding activities in secrecy to create an element of surprise and uncertainty. However, we challenge this approach, arguing that it can have unintended consequences. Join us as we explore the importance of maintaining a psychologically safe learning environment in adventure education. We discuss why withholding information and keeping participants in the dark may not always be the best strategy. We believe that pushing people into the unknown without adequate preparation can have adverse effects, potentially pushing them out of their comfort zones too soon, leading to discomfort, anxiety, and even negative learning experiences. Whether you're an educator, adventure enthusiast, or simply curious about the dynamics of adventure education, this episode will provide valuable perspectives on how to create a more effective and psychologically safe learning environment. Join us for a candid conversation that challenges conventional wisdom and explores innovative ways to optimize adventure education for everyone involved. Have a question for us? Email - podcast@high5adventure.org Instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and sound effects - epidemicsound.com

Sep 12, 2023 • 20min
Intrinsic Motivation
Join Phil and Lisa in this insightful episode as we dive deep into the fascinating world of intrinsic motivation. We explore how motivation that arises naturally, rather than from external rewards, can be enhanced through various activities. We'll uncover the four key elements that play a pivotal role in boosting intrinsic motivation: Challenge: Discover the importance of setting tasks that are just the right level of difficulty. Find out how striking the perfect balance between skill and challenge can ignite your inner drive. Curiosity: Uncover the power of curiosity in fueling motivation. Learn how novel experiences and questions can stimulate your intrinsic desire to learn and explore. Creativity: Explore how activities that encourage creativity can be a catalyst for motivation. We delve into the significance of having a voice in designing, executing, and solving tasks. Choice: Understand the role of individual choice in intrinsic motivation. Whether it's a facilitator allowing for choices or activities naturally providing options, we explore how autonomy can empower motivation. Tune in to gain valuable insights on harnessing your intrinsic motivation and applying these principles to various aspects of your life. Don't miss out on this episode that can transform the way you approach motivation and program design. What topics would you like us to discuss? Let us know in the following ways; Email - podcast@high5adventure.org Instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and sound effects - epidemicsound.com

Sep 5, 2023 • 16min
Citizenship and Names
In this episode, Phil shares with Rich that he has applied for US Citizenship and that he is studying for his exam, which results in Phil testing Rich. Following this, Rich introduces the main topic of this episode, the importance of learning the names of your participants. Thoughts are shared on the following; The effectiveness (and ineffectiveness) of name games The best ways they have found for learning names Stories on when names have been forgotten and/or gotten wrong If you have a topic that you would like us to discuss or a question for us, submit them to; Email - podcast@high5adventure.org Instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and Sound effects - epidemicsound.com

Aug 29, 2023 • 26min
The Serious Business of Play | Vishwas Parchure
Welcome back to the second installment of our captivating interview with experiential education luminary, Vishwas Parchure. In this engaging episode, we continue our exploration of the art of facilitation as Vishwas delves deep into a range of thought-provoking topics, sharing his profound insights and practical wisdom. Vishwas shines a spotlight on a common practice in facilitation - "hot-seating." Through a critical lens, he unpacks the potential pitfalls of this approach, revealing the hidden dynamics that can hinder authentic engagement and learning. Discover how Vishwas proposes a more nuanced and effective alternative that fosters a truly open and safe learning environment. As the conversation unfolds, Vishwas addresses a fundamental question every facilitator grapples with: How much should you talk? Drawing from his wealth of experience, he provides a refreshing perspective on the delicate balance between guiding participants and allowing space for their own discoveries. Vishwas takes a moment to reflect on the simple yet profound act of just being present with participants. He explores the transformative potential of genuine presence and its ability to create a safe space for exploration and growth. In the finale of this episode, Vishwas unveils his holistic philosophy of facilitation, encompassing conditioning, conduct, and consciousness. Drawing inspiration from the story of the Buddha, he underscores the profound significance of active, empathetic listening in the facilitation process. Prepare to be enlightened, challenged, and inspired as Vishwas Parchure shares his transformative insights and experiences in the world of experiential education. Join us as we conclude our illuminating interview with a deeper understanding of the art of facilitation and its profound impact on learning and growth. Learn more about Vishwas and the Experiential Leadership Institute - https://www.experiential.institute/ Music and Sound effects - epidemicsound.com

Aug 22, 2023 • 24min
Facilitation Cannot Be Taught | Vishwas Parchure
Join us in the first installment of a captivating two-part interview with the visionary experiential educator, Vishwas Parchure. In this episode, we delve into the very essence of Vishwas' profound work in experiential education and facilitation, gaining insights into his motivations, career-defining moments, and unique perspectives on the art of facilitation. Vishwas opens up about the driving force behind his commitment to experiential education, revealing the transformative impact it has on participants. Through heartfelt anecdotes, he shares the pivotal moments that have shaped his journey, shedding light on the profound personal experiences that fueled his passion for this remarkable field. One of the thought-provoking topics discussed is the concept of reflection within experiential learning. Vishwas begins by emphasizing that genuine reflection is a journey owned by the participants, not the facilitator. As the conversation unfolds, Vishwas shares his belief that facilitation is an art that cannot be taught in the traditional sense and how he creates opportunities for his students to teach themselves. Whether you're an educator, facilitator, or simply curious about the world of experiential education, this episode promises to ignite your curiosity and challenge your perceptions. Join us for an enriching exploration of Vishwas Parchure's transformative work, as we uncover the wisdom that has driven his impactful career. Stay tuned for Part 2, where we delve even deeper into his insights and experiences. Watch his AEE Address - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXvXWRrMeg4 Learn more about the Experiential Leadership Institute - https://www.experiential.institute/ Music and Sound effects - epidemicsound.com

Aug 15, 2023 • 10min
ATC vs GRIGRI
Phil and Chris delve into the question: What reigns supreme, the classic ATC or the innovative GRIGRI? Join us as we embark on a comprehensive exploration, comparing and contrasting these two climbing essentials from multiple angles. We break down the pros and cons through the lens of program goals, training strategies, risk assessment, and financial considerations. Whether you're an adventure educator pondering your next gear upgrade or an avid listener seeking a deeper understanding of belaying essentials, this episode promises to give you experienced opinions on the use of these 2 pieces of belay gear. How to belay with a GRIGRI - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqrskjKwTfE&list=PL9uQzKJ3xhKp9zG3Y-ux44h_p40lDSUTv&index=8 Submit your questions to the team; Email - podcast@high5adventure.org Instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and sound effects - epidemicsound.com