

The Learning Curve
Pioneer Institute
Join The Learning Curve every Wednesday for insight and perspective on education, learning trends, school choice, and public policy. Our hosts and guests offer a mix of provocative commentary as they interview school leaders, innovators, bestselling authors, policymakers, and more. Send any suggestions, tips, and fan mail to pioneer@pioneerinstitute.org.Listen to all episodes of The Learning Curve at Ricochet.com.
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Aug 14, 2024 • 31min
Houston Supt. Mike Miles & Urban School Reform
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts Charlie Chieppo and Meredith Coolidge of DFER-MA interview Houston Independent School District, Superintendent Mike Miles. Mr. Miles reflects on his lifelong dedication to public service, starting as a soldier, then a diplomat, and later as an educational leader. He shares insights into his family background and formative experiences that shaped his commitment to serving the public. Miles discusses his time at West Point and how his service in the Army Ranger Battalion and as a Company Commander influenced his approach to leadership in large urban school districts. He delves into his diplomatic experiences in Poland and Russia during the Cold War, emphasizing the role of K-12 education in maintaining a free society and national security. Transitioning to his career in education, Mr. Miles talks about the challenges he faced as superintendent of the Harrison School District, Colorado Springs, and his urban district reform efforts in Dallas and Houston, Texas. Finally, Supt. Miles discusses the importance of urban education reform, the role of school choice, and the need to combat the chronic underperformance and despair affecting young people in American cities.

Aug 7, 2024 • 1h 2min
Dr. David Heidler on Andrew Jackson & American Democracy
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts Alisha Searcy of DEFR and retired MN Justice Barry Anderson interview Dr. David Heidler. He discusses the transformative period of Jacksonian Democracy, from 1829 to 1837. Dr. Heidler explores the political changes, sectionalism, and reforms that characterized the era, alongside the controversial figure of Andrew Jackson, whose volatile nature and strategic political management propelled his rise and image. Heidler delves into Jackson's presidential campaigns, his party's appeal to diverse coalitions, and the significant role of slavery, particularly in the wake of events like Nat Turner's 1831 slave rebellion. He also examines Jackson's relationships with prominent statesmen like Daniel Webster, Henry Clay, and John C. Calhoun; his influence on Indian removal policies leading to the Trail of Tears; as well as the divergent constitutional views of figures like the abolitionist William Lloyd Garrison and the states’ rights advocate, Calhoun. Dr. Heidler underscores how history, classic literature, and slave memoirs can enhance understanding of Antebellum America. He discusses the importance of examining the economic impact of immigration and transportation innovations, and highlights the influence of civic associations, religious movements, and communication advancements on the period's social reforms and democratic spirit. In closing, Dr. Heidler reads a passage from his coauthored book, The Rise of Andrew Jackson: Myth, Manipulation, and the Making of Modern Politics.

Aug 1, 2024 • 1h 2min
MIT’s Nobel Winner Joshua Angrist on the Economics of Education & Charter Public Schools
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts Alisha Searcy of DEFR and Mike Goldstein interview Joshua Angrist, the Ford Professor of Economics at MIT. Prof Angrist shares his journey from growing up in Pittsburgh to becoming a Nobel Prize-winning economist. He reflects on his family, formative educational experiences, and his time as a paratrooper in the Israeli Defense Forces, where he gleaned valuable life lessons. Prof. Angrist explores the controversies and his motivations behind studying K-12 education, emphasizing what policymakers often overlook about education and labor markets. He discusses his groundbreaking research on charter schools, highlighting how his findings have influenced policymakers. Angrist also talks about his Nobel-winning work on the analysis of causal relationships in economics and the innovative research currently underway at Blueprint, his lab at MIT.

Jul 24, 2024 • 36min
Stanford’s Arnold Rampersad on Jackie Robinson
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts DFER's Alisha Searcy and Mike Goldstein interview Stanford University Prof. Arnold Rampersad, author of Jackie Robinson: A Biography. He discusses the life and legacy of Robinson, the hall of fame baseball player and history-changing civil rights leader. Prof. Rampersad talks about Jackie Robinson's journey from rural Georgia, his athletic triumphs at UCLA, and his struggles against poverty and racism. He continues by exploring Robinson's military service, his time in the Negro Leagues, and Branch Rickey's pivotal role in helping Jackie break Major League Baseball’s color barrier. Prof. Rampersad highlights Robinson's historic MLB career, his profound impact on civil rights, and his enduring legacy.

Jul 17, 2024 • 52min
Pulitzer Winner Kai Bird on Robert Oppenheimer & the Atomic Bomb
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and DFER's Alisha Searcy interview Pulitzer Winner Kai Bird. Mr. Bird focuses on the life and legacy of J. Robert Oppenheimer, “father of the atomic bomb.” He discusses Oppenheimer's impact on history, his early life and education, and his academic achievements in quantum physics. Bird covers Oppenheimer's political views, relationships, as well as his leadership in the Manhattan Project and his role in the Trinity test. He reflects on Oppenheimer's ethical concerns about the atomic bomb's devastation of WWII Japan and impact on the Cold War’s arms race. He examines Oppenheimer’s post-WWII career, including his involvement with the Atomic Energy Commission and the security clearance hearings that marked his decline. Mr. Bird continues with a discussion of Oppenheimer's legacy and the lessons from his life about the interplay between science, technology, and politics. He shares the experience of his book American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer, being turned into an Oscar-winning film Oppenheimer directed by Christopher Nolan. Mr. Bird closes by reading a passage from his Oppenheimer biography.

Jul 10, 2024 • 40min
Georgetown’s Dr. Marguerite Roza on Federal ESSER Funds & the Fiscal Cliff
This week on The Learning Curve co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and DFER's Alisha Searcy interview Dr. Marguerite Roza from the Edunomics Lab at Georgetown University. Dr. Roza explores the complexities of education finance and its impact on American K-12 education. She outlines the three phases of school funding over the past 40 years and their effect on equity and student achievement. She highlights that only about half of the K-12 education dollars fund student instruction, with significant money absorbed by the ever-expanding education bureaucracy. Dr. Roza discusses massive federal expenditures, such as COVID relief funds, emphasizing the need for better accountability. She examines the challenges faced by urban school districts with high per-pupil spending but low graduation rates and proficiency levels. Additionally, she explores the rise of private school choice programs and their accountability measures.

Jul 3, 2024 • 35min
Harlow Giles Unger on Patrick Henry & American Liberty
This week on The Learning Curve co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and DFER's Alisha Searcy interview Harlow Giles Unger, author of Lion of Liberty: Patrick Henry and the Call to a New Nation. Mr. Unger delves into the life of Patrick Henry as the country celebrates the Fourth of July. He explores Henry's early life, his rise as a lawyer and political figure, and his fiery opposition to British policies. Mr. Unger highlights Henry's famous "Give me liberty, or give me death!" speech and his influential role as governor of Virginia, underscoring his enduring legacy in helping forge American independence. In closing, he reads a passage from his book, Lion of Liberty: Patrick Henry and the Call to a New Nation. The Learning Curve team wishes everyone a safe and happy Fourth of July!

Jun 26, 2024 • 42min
Prof. Joel Richard Paul on Daniel Webster, U.S. Senate, & “Liberty and Union”
This week on The Learning Curve co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Ret. MN Justice Barry Anderson interview U-CA Law-SF’s Prof. Joel Richard Paul. He discusses the statesman Daniel Webster, highlighting his reputation as the "conscience of New England" and one of America's greatest orators. Prof. Paul shares that Webster, despite a modest upbringing, became a leading attorney whose arguments in landmark U.S. Supreme Court cases shaped constitutional law. He highlights that Webster is known for his "constitutional nationalism," as he advocated for a unified vison of the country. Prof. Paul also notes Webster's powerful 1820 anti-slavery speech and his pivotal role in the Compromise of 1850, emphasizing his efforts to preserve the Union. In closing, he reads a passage from his book, Indivisible: Daniel Webster and the Birth of American Nationalism.

Jun 19, 2024 • 42min
Steven Wilson on Charter Public Schools
This week on The Learning Curve co-hosts DFER's Alisha Searcy and Charlie Chieppo interview Steven Wilson. Mr. Wilson delves into his extensive background, including his tenure at Pioneer Institute, his work with Governor Bill Weld, and his contributions to the landmark 1993 Massachusetts Education Reform Act. Steven shares insights into the high academic expectations and success of Boston's charter schools, emphasizing the importance of recruiting and retaining quality teachers and principals. He covers the significant growth of charter schools in the U.S., highlighting cities with strong political support and effective charter authorizing practices. Additionally, Wilson addresses the recent political shifts affecting charter schools, the impact of political correctness on educational quality, and previews his upcoming book on K-12 education and charter schools. He concludes by reflecting on the future of charter school reform and the steps policymakers should take to sustain and enhance educational innovation.

Jun 12, 2024 • 37min
Sheldon Novick on Henry James, American Women, & Gilded-Age Fiction
This week on The Learning Curve co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and DFER's Alisha Searcy interview Henry James biographer Sheldon Novick. Mr. Novick discusses the complexities of Henry James’ life and writing career, highlighting his significant literary contributions, the influence of his family's intellectual legacy, and the realistic portrayal of social tensions in his works. Novick explores Henry James’ life experiences that shaped his novels like The Portrait of a Lady and The Golden Bowl. He shared more on James' important friendships, particularly with the novelist Edith Wharton, emphasizing James' enduring influence on modern fiction. In closing, Novick reads a passage from his biography Henry James.


