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Pioneer Institute
Join The Learning Curve every Wednesday for insight and perspective on education, learning trends, school choice, and public policy. Our hosts and guests offer a mix of provocative commentary as they interview school leaders, innovators, bestselling authors, policymakers, and more. Send any suggestions, tips, and fan mail to pioneer@pioneerinstitute.org.Listen to all episodes of The Learning Curve at Ricochet.com.
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Oct 23, 2024 • 47min
U-TX at SA's Catherine Clinton on Harriet Tubman & the Underground Railroad
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts Alisha Searcy of DFER and Dr. Jocelyn Chadwick interview Catherine Clinton, Denman Professor of American History at the University of Texas at San Antonio, and author of Harriet Tubman: The Road to Freedom. Prof. Clinton discusses her definitive biography of Harriet Tubman, the renowned abolitionist and Underground Railroad conductor. She reflects on Tubman's early life as Araminta Ross, born into slavery in antebellum Maryland, and the formative experiences that shaped her resistance to oppression. Clinton covers a traumatic head injury Tubman suffered, her deep religious faith, and the spiritual visions that guided her. She also explores Tubman's marriage to John Tubman, her escape to freedom in 1849, and her leadership in rescuing enslaved people. Prof. Clinton also delves into the dangers Tubman faced under the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, her work with prominent abolitionists like John Brown, Frederick Douglass, and William Seward, and her service as a Union spy and military leader during the Civil War. Additionally, Clinton reflects on Tubman's later life in upstate New York, her advocacy for women's suffrage, and her enduring legacy in American history. In closing, Prof. Clinton reads a passage form her biography, Harriet Tubman: The Road to Freedom.

Oct 16, 2024 • 47min
Award-Winner Tom Segev on Israel’s Founding Father, David Ben-Gurion
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Andrea Silbert interview Israeli historian, journalist, and author of A State at Any Cost: The Life of David Ben-Gurion, Tom Segev. Dr. Segev delves into the life and legacy of David Ben-Gurion, Israel's founding father. He shares insights into Ben-Gurion’s early years in Poland, his involvement in Zionist politics, and immigration to Palestine in 1906, which set the stage for his leadership during pivotal moments in history. Segev covers Ben-Gurion's rise to prominence, his role in forming the Zionist Labor Federation, and the strategies he employed during the 1936-39 Arab revolt. Additionally, Segev examines Ben-Gurion's historic leadership in declaring Israel's independence in 1948, the unification of Jewish militias into the Israeli Defense Forces, and the implications of the Arab-Israeli War. He also highlights Ben-Gurion’s efforts to establish state institutions, absorb Jewish immigrants, and his vision for the nation, while acknowledging the complicated aspects of his political leadership. Dr. Segev positions Ben-Gurion among the most significant leaders of the twentieth century, with a legacy that continues to influence Israeli society and its international relations today.

Oct 9, 2024 • 43min
Lynch Foundation’s Katie Everett on School Finance Model for Catholic Schools & School Choice
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Mike Goldstein interview Katie Everett, the Executive Director of the Lynch Foundation. Ms. Everett shares her journey into K-12 education reform and discusses the influential vision of Carolyn and Peter Lynch, and their foundation's role in shaping education policy in Massachusetts and beyond. She highlights the Lynch family's contributions to the Commonwealth’s educational, cultural, and civic landscape. Everett delves into the operational challenges facing Catholic schools, such as labor costs and enrollment issues, while also emphasizing the work of the School Choice and School Financial Sustainability Committee, which developed a finance model to assist tuition-based schools. She elaborates on how the model has been received and its potential to expand access to early childhood education, breaking cycles of illiteracy and poverty. Additionally, she explores how her school finance model could align with state policies, like ESAs, to bolster Catholic and private schools. Everett closes by calling for more robust involvement from governors, legislators, and parents in improving academic outcomes for American students.

Oct 2, 2024 • 35min
MA Teacher James Conway & High School Grad Ela Gardiner on MCAS Testing
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Meredith Coolidge of DFER - MA interview James Conway, a World History and Psychology teacher at Revere High School, and Ela Gardiner, a freshman at Hobart and William Smith Colleges and Wellesley High School alumna. Conway discusses the 1993 Massachusetts Education Reform Act (MERA) and its role in establishing a progressive state funding formula, high-stakes testing like MCAS, and rigorous curriculum standards. He highlights the national and international successes of Massachusetts students, particularly through NAEP, TIMSS, and PISA assessments, and emphasizes MCAS as a key tool for improving educational equity. Mr. Conway also reflects on the importance of MCAS for instruction and accountability, and the negative implications of eliminating it as a high-stakes test. Ms. Gardiner discusses her personal experiences with the Massachusetts curriculum standards and MCAS testing. She shares how the rigorous academic expectations helped prepare her for college and how her experience compares to peers from other states and countries. Gardiner also addresses the critics’ questionable concerns about MCAS, explaining how her high school’s curriculum aligned with the standards and MCAS effectively prepared her for both state and national tests. Finally, she speaks on the potential academic consequences for future students if MCAS is removed as a graduation requirement, stressing its importance in maintaining high academic standards in the Bay State.

Sep 25, 2024 • 36min
Edward Achorn on Abraham Lincoln, the Civil War, & Slavery
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts Charlie Chieppo and Ret. MN Justice Barry Anderson interview Edward Achorn, a noted writer, historian, and author of Every Drop of Blood: The Momentous Second Inauguration of Abraham Lincoln and The Lincoln Miracle: Inside the Republican Convention That Changed History. Achorn shares insights into Lincoln's improbable political rise and the critical events leading to his 1860 Republican presidential nomination, including his strategic maneuvering following his defeat in the 1858 Illinois Senate race. He discusses the significance of the 1860 Republican Convention in Chicago, where Lincoln bested more prominent candidates like William Seward. Mr. Achorn also examines the broader political landscape of the time and the importance of Lincoln's second inaugural address, delivered amidst the Civil War's devastation, and its profound impact on American political discourse. Additionally, Achorn highlights Lincoln's intellectual influences and how his mastery of language shaped pivotal moments in American history. He brings to life the key figures surrounding Lincoln during his second inauguration, painting a vivid picture of Washington at this crucial juncture in the nation's past. In closing, Achorn reads a passage from his book Every Drop of Blood.

Sep 18, 2024 • 55min
PRI’s Lance Izumi on The Great Classroom Collapse
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts Alisha Searcy of DFER and U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng interview Lance Izumi, Koret Senior Fellow and Senior Director of Education Studies at the Pacific Research Institute. Mr. Izumi delves into his latest book, The Great Classroom Collapse: Teachers, Students, and Parents Expose the Collapse of Learning in America's Schools. He discusses why, despite decades of education reforms and vast spending, many American students remain underprepared in critical subjects like reading and math. He explores how the focus on social justice and political agendas has shifted attention away from academic quality and meritocracy in K-12 education, leading to troubling outcomes in many districts. Mr. Izumi highlights widespread issues in reading instruction, including the long-standing evidence for phonics and why NAEP reading scores have stagnated over the years. He shares concern of "constructivist" math methods and reflects on the impact of Common Core on declining math scores nationwide. Izumi concludes with reform recommendations aimed at restoring academic rigor and equality of opportunity in American schools.

Sep 12, 2024 • 49min
AFC’s Denisha Allen on School Choice & Black Minds Matter
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts Alisha Searcy of DFER and AFC’s Walter Blanks interview Senior Fellow at the American Federation for Children and Founder of Black Minds Matter, Denisha Allen. Denisha shares her journey and the motivations behind founding Black Minds Matter, a national movement dedicated to celebrating Black excellence and promoting high-quality educational options for Black students. She delves into the politics of urban school reform, highlighting the challenges posed by race and class-based achievement gaps and the political influence of teachers' unions. Mrs. Allen also reflects on the evolving landscape of charter school politics and how the pandemic has reshaped education by increasing interest in diverse school choice options like charters, homeschooling, and microschools. She discusses the implications of the "Year of School Choice" in 2021, marked by expanded voucher and ESA programs, and questions why, despite large federal education expenditures, national reading and math scores have been stagnant or declining. Finally, Denisha shares her vision for what policymakers and parents should do to dramatically improve academic outcomes for America's students.

Sep 4, 2024 • 47min
UK’s Prof. Richard Holmes on Coleridge, the Ancient Mariner, & Poetry
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Dr. Jocelyn Chadwick interview fellow of the Royal Society of Literature and the British Academy, Prof. Richard Holmes. Prof. Holmes delves into the life and literary legacy of Samuel Taylor Coleridge, one of the most significant poets of the Romantic era. Holmes offers a comprehensive overview of Coleridge's early education, highlighting how classical learning deeply influenced his worldview and writings. He also touches on Coleridge's passionate anti-slavery views within the turbulent political landscape of late 18th-century Britain, providing context for his masterpiece, The Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Holmes further explores Coleridge's use of symbolism, particularly the iconic albatross and the haunting ghost ship, illustrating how these elements convey the poet's themes of guilt, nature, and human destructiveness. Prof. Holmes additionally covers Coleridge's struggles with opium addiction, reflecting on how it shaped his life and creative output. Holmes also underscores Coleridge's enduring influence on British Romantic poetry and its profound impact on the American Renaissance, encouraging educators and students to continue cherishing his timeless works. In closing, Prof. Holmes reads a passage from his two-volume biography of Samuel Taylor Coleridge.

Aug 28, 2024 • 45min
NYT’s Anupreeta Das on Bill Gates, Microsoft, & Tech Billionaires
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Alisha Searcy of DFER interview the NYT’s South Asia correspondent, Anupreeta Das. Ms. Das discusses how she became interested in writing her acclaimed biography, Billionaire, Nerd, Savior, King: Bill Gates and His Quest to Shape Our World, emphasizing Gates’ corporate and philanthropic influence on our era. She draws comparisons between Gates and other tech giants like Apple’s Steve Jobs and the 19th-century American tycoons Vanderbilt, Carnegie, and Rockefeller, exploring their similarities and differences. Ms. Das also delves into Gates' early life, his pivotal role in the microcomputer and software revolutions, and the founding of Microsoft, highlighting his collaboration with Paul Allen and the innovative corporate culture they established. She further examines the landmark antitrust case, United States v. Microsoft, and its lasting effects on Gates and the tech industry. Finally, Das reflects on Gates' complex personal legacy and the broader implications of tech billionaires exerting significant influence over our democratic society. In closing, Das reads a passage from her book Billionaire, Nerd, Savior, King: Bill Gates and His Quest to Shape Our World.

Aug 21, 2024 • 39min
National Alliance’s Starlee Coleman on Public Charter Schools
This week on The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Meredith Coolidge of DFER - MA interview President and CEO of the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools, Starlee Coleman. Ms. Coleman discusses her role as CEO of the Texas Public Charter Schools Association, highlighting the growth of charter schools in Texas, as well as the broader efforts to expand school choice. She addresses the complexities of charter school politics, the right-left coalition, and the need to bridge political divisions. Coleman also explores the challenges of maintaining academic quality amid the rapid expansion of charter schools, the role of authorizers, and the impact of federal K-12 spending on education outcomes. She concludes by discussing the political dynamics within the Democratic Party and the future of charter schools in states with strong teachers' unions.


