

Folding Towels - A Podcast for Massage Therapists with Jackie and David
Jackie Kerin and David Clayton
Jackie Kerin and David Clayton met over a massage table in Adelaide (Australia) back in 2015 - now they bring their quirks, and passion for the industry to this brand-new podcast. Discussing all the things they never told you about in massage school - complex cases, difficult customers, maintaining boundaries, administration, being in business and making decisions, and the never-ending pile of laundry. Most importantly, staying passionate to do what you actually trained to do and love. Folding towels is the massage class you wish you could take; with all the questions you wish you'd asked.
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Jan 30, 2024 • 19min
Episode 038: Getting Started in 2024
Welcome back to 2024!
Our Folding Towels podcast journey continues from a seasonally confused Adelaide. It's been quite the year—bushfires, floods, hurricanes—but here in South Australia, we're enjoying some greenery after December rains.
Jackie has indulged in family time and movie marathons (shoutout to Gerard Butler). On a less thrilling note, she tackled overdue bookkeeping—a necessary evil for us small business owners.
David also found himself wrapping up work on Christmas Eve; it seems there's no escaping those last-minute admin tasks.
We both aimed for restful breaks—David introduced his son to snorkeling. Yet amidst relaxation lurked the inevitable: data migration woes as he switched booking systems and dropped his laptop.
As we ponder our goals for 2024 with words like 'self-care' and 'reinvention', personal projects beckon. For Jackie, it’s finishing her client-focused massage book; for David, embracing professional development opportunities like Paula Nutting’s coaching and Chapman’s reflexes course.
This year is about connection—overcoming professional isolation by expanding our therapist networks through social events rather than just educational ones. And let's not forget the excitement of upcoming conferences!
Listeners can join our conversation anytime via our website or social media—we’re flexible and eager to discuss topics that matter to you. Don't forget to subscribe and share Folding Towels podcast with friends so they never miss out on an episode either!
Here's to a fulfilling 2024 filled with growth, learning, laughter—and hopefully fewer dropped laptops! See you again soon!
We mention the Stuart Hinds Facebook Group
and also Paula Nutting Super Charged Therapist
Join Paula's Mastery Mentorship Program - $33 per month
Hands on classes Chapmans Reflexes
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Dec 19, 2023 • 19min
Episode 037: Christmas 2023 Wrap Up
So Jackie, where do you stand on Mariah Carey in your massage room? I'd happily stand on Mariah Carey if she asked me to ... but that's not what you mean is it!
Our last episode for 2023 - a bit of banter, some Christmas fun, a big thank you to all our listeners around the world thank you for supporting us in our first year.
We will be back in 2024 with a full calendar of episodes, some fabulous guests and more laughs.
For now we have closed the laundry door. Merry Christmas and see you in the new year!
Pentatonix - Little Drummer Boy
Celtic Woman - O Holy Night
The Idea of North - Hello
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Dec 12, 2023 • 48min
Episode 036: Paula Nutting - Your Muskuloskeletal Specialist
Jackie and David are joined by our special guest and friend,
Paula Nutting from Your Musculoskeletal Specialist. In Paula’s own words, she’s a dinosaur – active in bodywork for at least 28 years, but previously an intensive care nurse. She tells us how empathy fatigue led her on a journey through fitness training to a long and exiting career in bodywork. Now massage trainer, lover of golf, industry mentor and former lecturer of the World Massage Association.
Paula was inspired by the work of osteopath Frank Chapman and
has adapted this work of neuro lymphatic bodywork and this is the work that she teaches online and in person
We chat about how the industry has changed in the last 30
years, confidence in pricing, the importance of being both competent and confident in your work, and the amalgamation of state massage associations into one Australian body. Paula pulls no punches – she’s as genuine as they come.
If you are inspired by Paula’s story and want to know more,
Paula teaches around Australia and overseas – she’ll be in Adelaide in February 2024, Melbourne in March 2024 and heading to Canada later in 2024.
Find Paula on Facebook
Find Paula on Instagram
Send Paula an Email
Join Paula's Mastery Mentorship Program - $33 per month
Hands on classes Chapmans Reflexes
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Dec 10, 2023 • 47min
Episode 035: Tips for Brand New Therapists
Do you remember when you were a brand new massage graduate?
Jackie and David have recently visited a student clinic for massage. And at one of those appointments, a student requested this episode. Jackie and David reflect on getting started in the industry. We talk about:
Going to work in a clinic vs working for yourself
Saving for and buying good equipment
Self Care
Confidence and client conversations
Finding a community
Investing in your own education
And taking classes while you figure out what you want your style to be
Jackie even pushes David's buttons (just a little bit).
Whether you've been around the block a couple of times (or maybe more), or you truly are just graduating (CONGRATULAIONS 🎉) the episode is a journey of discovery.
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Nov 28, 2023 • 26min
Episode 034 : Planning and Reflection
Jackie and David have a deep and meaningful about life, the universe and everything as they reflect on where they want to take their own practices, plan the year out ahead, their own personal journeys and the possibility of being eaten by a bear in the Appalachian Mountains.
This is a personal and reflective episode to help you take the steps that you need to take so that your year is as fulfilling as it can be.
Some of the things mentioned in today's episode:
A Walk in The Woods
Appalachian Trail
Cats in The Cradle
Pinky and The Brain
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Nov 21, 2023 • 36min
Episode 033 : The Three Policies You Need In Your Practice Right Now
In this episode, Jackie shares that she is both slightly concerned by and also grateful for David's obsession with policy.
Policies and procedures are not everyone's zone of genius, but the truth is, policy is something you can't escape and shouldn't ignore. We chat about why we need them, how they are useful, tips and tricks for writing them (spoiler alert - your association usually has templates that you can adapt).
And we discuss in depth the three policies that you need to implement right now: Work Health and Safety, a Privacy policy and your Non Attendance and Late Cancellation Policies.
We promise that it really isn't as painful as it sounds! Grab your pen and notebook and get ready to take some notes!
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Nov 14, 2023 • 22min
Episode 032: How To Increase Your Prices Without Upsetting Your Clients
Today Jackie and David delve into how to raise your prices without upsetting your clients (spoiler alert, a couple of them will probably get upset anyway).
Raising your prices regularly is a good thing, especially as you do deserve to pay yourself well. Your costs are going up, and your clients know that too.
We talk about things to do right, things that probably will upset your clients, and most of all a communication plan.
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Nov 9, 2023 • 36min
Episode 031: Peter Harman HY.GIENE Australia - Preventing Laundry Fires with Proper Cleaning
Today, Jackie and David chat with Peter Harman from HY.GIENE Australia about removing oily residue from towels and linen. Yes, we're talking about laundry again!
Not just throwing your towels into the machine after work, but how to prevent oil build up, extend the life of your washing machine and most importantly fire prevention because of hot, oily towels. We read about it in the massage groups - oily towels frequently catch fire in hot cars and in dryers.
HY.GIENE Australia has worked with the spa and hotel industry and also washing machine manufactures to develop specific washing products and a procedure to guarantee that your towels come out 100% free of oil, your washing machine lasts longer and that your fire risk is pretty much zero.
Order through https://www.hygieneaustralia.com.au/
Discount code: 15OFFFOLDINGTOWELS
Instructions for using the laundry products as mentioned at 13 mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49fgdk18MmY
Complete Laundry Care System for Massage Therapists
Laundry Products
Viro.Giene
Beauty.Giene
Spa and Beauty Products
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Nov 1, 2023 • 37min
Episode 030: Why Asking The Right Questions Makes You A Better Therapist
Jackie and David delve into the importance of building trust with our clients through effective communication and understanding their health needs. This starts with taking a detailed history, which not only helps us to determine where and how we work, but it builds trust and helps to prevent us from doing something wrong.
We talk about the necessity of intake forms, meeting client expectations upfront, using patients' names for connection, asking relevant questions based on their conditions and reading body language to gauge when further probing is needed.
The key takeaway: always take your client's detailed history - it's not only beneficial but potentially lifesaving too!
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Oct 24, 2023 • 31min
Episode 029: Navigating the Holiday Season
Join Jackie and David in this light hearted episode as they lament about how unpredictable and bat crap crazy the lead up to Christmas can sometimes be. From strategies to tackle last-minute cancellations to the importance of showing compassion. We cover a range of strategies to keep the peace even when you want to scream.
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