
Just Between Coaches
Where do coaches turn when they face a difficult situation with a client? Quite often, when coaching challenges arise, they reach out to a coach more senior than themselves. That’s the aim of Just Between Coaches — to be that trusted source of guidance for the coaching community.
Hosted by Melinda Cohan, coach and creator of The Coaches Console business management system, Just Between Coaches will answer the tough questions that coaches face every day. For example, what can I do if my client is lying? How do I deal with price resistance from prospects and clients? What if I want to fire a coaching client? And what the heck is a feeder course and why should I care?
This tactical podcast will provide a deep dive into one coaching topic per episode, which means searching for answers will be a breeze. It will also offer a simple way for listeners to refer other coaches who are grappling with those tough coaching questions. To submit a tough question you’re facing as a coach, put “JBC” in the subject line and send it to podcasts@mirasee.com.
Latest episodes

Jun 14, 2023 • 28min
Divorce Your Methodology (Constance Dierickx)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Constance Dierickx, PhD, is known as The Decision Doctor® and serves as a leadership coach who has advised more than 500 executives all over the world in high-stakes situations.In this episode we discuss:What coaching methodology isWhat the coaching process is, as distinct from methodologyWhen to update or change up what you’re doingAvoiding being expendableAdapting your process to better meet your and your clients’ needsUpleveling your clienteleThe risks in changing up your process“Process is a 30,000-foot view of what you're doing. And a methodology is the scaffolding that lives between your process and your outcomes.” – Constance DierickxConstance Dierickx, PhD, is known as The Decision Doctor® and serves as a sought-after advisor to boards and senior executives in high-stakes situations including strategic pivots, CEO transitions, board conflict, and crises.Constance has consulted with dozens of boards and over 500 executives on five continents. Her clients include Fortune 50 companies, high-tech start-ups, large hospital systems, boutique consulting firms, and private equity portfolio companies.Recognized as an expert on governance and executive leadership, Constance has been interviewed by National Public Radio, The Wall Street Journal, and Chief Executive. She writes for Harvard Business Review and Forbes and is the author of two books on executive coaching. Constance received her undergraduate degree from the University of North Carolina - Asheville. Her M.A. and Ph.D. are from Georgia State University, where she studied psychology and decision science. She enjoys travel, cooking, and exploring the history of cuisines around the world, and has an inexplicable fascination with boxing. She lives in Atlanta with her husband, Michael.Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:MiraseeCoaches ConsoleConstance’s website: ConstanceDierickx.comOn the website you'll find the link to her free resource - “Meta Leadership Self Assessment”Credits:Host: Melinda CohanProducer: Michi LantzSupervising Producer: Cynthia LambExecutive Producer: Danny InyAudio Post Supervisors: Evan Miles and Christopher MartinAudio Post Production: Post Office SoundMusic Soundscape: Chad Michael SnavelyMaking our hosts sound great: Home Brew AudioIf you don't want to miss future episodes of Just Between Coaches, please subscribe to Apple podcasts or Spotify or wherever you're listening right now. And if you liked the show, please leave us a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.Music credits:Track Title: CloudsArtist Name: AcreageWriter Name: Marshall UsingerPublisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONSTrack Title: Coastline DreamArtist Name: Wild SkyWriter Name: Adam SimonsPublisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONSTrack Title: Coo CoosArtist Name: Dresden, The FlamingoWriter Name: Matthew WigtonPublisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONTrack Title: Stars & TreesArtist Name: Outside The SkyWriter Name: Dustin RansomPublisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONSpecial effects credits:24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.Episode transcript: Divorce Your Methodology (Constance Dierickx) coming soon~~~~~

Jun 7, 2023 • 35min
Put Decision Fatigue to Rest (Rahti Gorfien)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Rahti Gorfien is a certified life coach, accredited ADHD coach, and founder of Creative Calling Coaching.Today, Melinda and Rahti talk about:Indecision being a form of self-abuseHow we avoid decisions to stay in comfort and safetyBringing others into your decision-making Decision fatigueHow working on your own decision-making helps your clients as wellMaking a decision versus letting it reveal itselfMelinda's decision-making policiesSymptoms of decision fatigueThe importance of planning and the role of intuition“The times that I made what I would consider mistakes are when I decided to do something, but was so insecure in myself that I didn't want to share the various options with anyone else.” — Rahti Gorfien

May 31, 2023 • 38min
Fewer Hours, Greater Impact (Natasha Ho)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Natasha Ho is a marketing coach, growth strategist, and founder of The All In Woman.Today, Melinda and Natasha talk about:Creating a thriving business while working fewer hoursNatasha’s specific tactics for cutting your work week from 40–50 hours down to 20–30How your passion can be your inspirationWhat’s the why behind your work?The importance of setting boundariesHow to organize yourself to stay focusedUnlearning productivity and embracing what is effectiveThe success story of a client who transitioned to a shorter work week and how she achieved it“Find somebody who has the version of your future that you desire, and have a conversation with them to understand what they did to get there.” — Natasha Ho

May 24, 2023 • 32min
Free Your Mind (Rhona Bennett)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Rhona Bennett is an internationally known entertainer, life coach, and founder of Personal Power University.In this episode we discuss:The definition of spirituality in coachingExpressing and communicating personal valuesBest practices for integrating spirituality and religion into coachingManaging doubts earlyThe differences between spirituality and intuitionMeditation in order to achieve the quiet to receiveHandling resistance to exploring spirituality in sessionsMaintaining a strong connection to the DivineMorning routines as living prayerHow to facilitate receiving for a greater capacity to give“I've been able to teach Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, and people who don't believe in God at all [and] that has come from my own personal growth and a willingness to stretch in what else things can mean.” – Rhona Bennett

May 17, 2023 • 30min
Dig and Grow Rich (Nina Cooke)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Nina Cooke is the founder of Nina Cooke Business Coaching, creator of the Millionaire Mindset Scorecard, and an author and podcaster.In this episode we discuss:Lacking confidence due to limiting beliefsThe fallacy of introversion as an obstacleEntrepreneurs who blindly try multiple marketing approachesCommon mistakes coaches make when growing their businessHow excuses are key mistakes for entrepreneursOne mindset strategy to remove meanings from all events“I asked [my list], what is the biggest challenge that is stopping you from growing your business? And I expected the top answer to be something around money blocks. The top answer was the fear of putting themselves out there.” – Nina Cooke

May 10, 2023 • 32min
Better Outcomes Using ChatGPT (Marko Schmitt)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Marko Schmitt is an entrepreneurial coach in the ACES program at Mirasee with a background in business start-up, funding, and growth.In this episode we discuss:The three keys to using ChatGPT with your clientsHow would a career coach use this tool?Using ChatGPT to generate first draftsWays this technology can preserve your clients’ transformation Using ChatGPT to explore market and business trendsHow this and other AI tools can enhance or wreck your reputation“One of the things that ChatGPT can do is essentially take the area you're interested in and reflect more possibilities of how you look at what you're doing.” — Marko Schmitt

May 3, 2023 • 31min
Creating Community (Heather E. Wilson)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Heather E. Wilson has been an instructional designer, course creator, and business coach for two decades. Currently, she employs her expertise to run Mirasee’s flagship program, Hybrid Course University. HCU is aimed specifically at coaches, consultants, speakers, and others who want to offer transformative courses that go well beyond simple instructional delivery.In this episode, Melinda and Heather discuss:The benefits of a peer communityHow coaches can effectively manage and engage with their peer communitiesBeing a giver first and fostering relationshipsTips for co-creating with your peer communityIncorporating a mastermind componentAvoiding the biggest community mistakesThe different types of communities you need to surround yourself withHow a coach’s peer community can help establish and maintain credibility within the industryAnd more “Years and years ago, I met my now-best friend in a group that has long since closed — but we maintained this amazing relationship, and she still holds me accountable for things that we're working on.” – Heather E. Wilson

Apr 26, 2023 • 32min
A.I. and the Future of Coaching (Danny Iny)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Danny Iny is the founder and CEO of Mirasee and the executive producer of Mirasee FM. In this episode, we discuss:The bell curve and diffusion of innovationsThe shift toward outcomesWhat is a hybrid approach? What does it mean?The ripple effect of the pandemic on the coaching industryThe future of virtual coachingThe disruptions happening in the coaching industry, and how coaches can position themselves to be at the forefront of these changesAnd more“A lot of the trends that we're talking about, they're kind of coming together to make it so that it's going to be very hard to make a living… as an average coach. I mean, we're not that far off from A.I. just doing that job for you.” – Danny Iny

Apr 19, 2023 • 34min
Exploring Entitlement (Marisa Murray)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Marisa Murray is an author, TEDx speaker, executive coach, and the founder of Leaderley International.In this episode we discuss:Defining entitlement and recognizing it early in the engagement processHow do you serve people when they’re being taken over by entitlement?The importance of having the “fit conversation” early onHow do we help set appropriate boundaries with our clients?Managing the pacing of the client’s progressHow do you rebalance when you feel like you’re blocked?How do you deal with entitlement and shame?Advice for new coaches in the early years of their practice"Entitlement is one of what I call the sneakiest saboteurs… [it can] operate sort of underneath our consciousness, and really keep us from fully engaging in our own lives.” – Marisa Murray

Apr 12, 2023 • 31min
Coming Out of Isolation (Isabelle Houle)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Isabelle Houle is a holistic recovery coach, certified yoga teacher, and master NLP and Time Line Therapy® coach.In this episode we discuss:What does “community” mean exactly? What are the categories of community?Embracing the magic in having a community.Being consistent with your networking.The importance of visiting a group at least three times before you make a commitment.Other practices or activities that can help reduce loneliness.“When we connect with other coaches… ask for what you need and learn to give. And when we do that, we create a safe space and we create trust.” — Isabelle HouleIsabelle HouleIsabelle Houle is a holistic recovery coach, certified yoga teacher, and master NLP and Time Line Therapy® coach who worked in the more traditional field of social work for 15 years. She also worked through addiction, Crohn’s disease, and Borderline Personality Disorder, which she recovered from.After physical, emotional, and spiritual burnout, Isabelle knew she had to serve from her experience. She decided to create her own approach, one that would include everything she learned from her time as a social worker, the powerful ancient teachings of yoga and meditation, and the efficiency of NLP and Time Line Therapy. And this is how she supports her clients in reclaiming their power and finding true freedom and peace.Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:MiraseeCoaches ConsoleIsabelle’s websiteIsabelle’s LinkedInIsabelle’s FacebookCredits:Host: Melinda CohanProducer: Michi LantzSupervising Producer: Cynthia Lamb Executive producer: Danny InyAudio Post Supervisors: Evan Miles and Christopher MartinAudio Post Production: Post Office SoundMusic Soundscape: Chad Michael SnavelyMaking our hosts sound great: Home Brew AudioIf you don't want to miss future episodes of Just Between Coaches, please subscribe to Apple podcasts or Spotify or wherever you're listening right now. And if you liked the show, please leave us a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.Music and SFX credits:Track Title: CloudsArtist Name: AcreageWriter Name: Marshall UsingerPublisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONSTrack Title: Coastline DreamArtist Name: Wild SkyWriter Name: Adam SimonsPublisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONSTrack Title: Coo CoosArtist Name: Dresden, The FlamingoWriter Name: Matthew WigtonPublisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONTrack Title: Stars & TreesArtist Name: Outside The SkyWriter Name: Dustin RansomPublisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONEpisode transcript: Creating Community (Isabelle Houle) Coming soon.~~~~~