
The Agile Wire
The Agile Wire with Jeff Bubolz and Chad Beier is focused on long-form conversations about the struggles associated with increasing agility of teams, products, and organizations around the world. As change agents, advisors, coaches, and trainers the hosts are focused on helping listeners get agile and stay agile.
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Jun 19, 2023 • 55min
Scale Up Without Selling Out with Tommy Norman
00:00 Intro00:28 How do companies keep their soul as they grow?15:30 To keep a company's soul, 3 things you cannot sacrifice.31:15 Why don't people have ownership mentality?39:20 Decision making in organizations45:08 Great leaders take extreme ownership48:11 Summary48:50 Agile music54:33 Outro----------------------------------------------------------------Connect with us at the following places:Wisconsin AgilityTraining: https://wisconsinagility.com/trainingAdvising: https://wisconsinagility.com/advisingMerch: https://wisconsinagility.com/merchJeff BubolzJeff Bubolz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbubolz/Jeff Bubolz Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffBubolz Chad BeierChad Beier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadbeier/Agile Songs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongsAgile Songs Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs/shortsAgile Songs Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileSongsThe Agile WireWeb: https://theagilewire.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YKEHJtcJXZ55ohsUOvklI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agile-wire/id1455057621 Agile Wire Clips: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLl0ryedF7y7HWTsbur4ysdpUcY7tniSGAgile Wire Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileWire Make sure you subscribe to the channel!#Scrum #Agile #ProfessionalScrum #Kanban #BusinessAgility

Jun 5, 2023 • 49min
Practical Approach to Product Management for Product Owners with Robbin Schuurman and Chris Lukassen
00:00 Intro00:49 Most Common Problems PO Have06:45 Practical Approach to Product Management for Product Owners10:58 Product Owner Stances15:25 What Product Owner course is right for you?20:19 Favorite Product Owner Stance26:15 Stakeholder Engagement over Stakeholder Management28:28 Does a product need multiple Product Owners?35:40 Defining Leadership, Management and Products 41:02 Agile Governance44:45 Summary of the book "Practical Approach to Product Management for Product Owners"48:57 OutroGet a copy of the new book “Practical Product Management for Product Owners":On InformIT: https://www.informit.com/store/practical-product-management-for-product-owners-creating-9780137947003On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Product-Management-Owners-Professional-ebook/dp/B0BLYGFYQVGet a copy of their other books:Master the Art of No (in English): https://www.amazon.com/Master-Art-Effective-Stakeholder-Management-ebook/dp/B08P3KFR3X/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1681897513&refinements=p_27:Robbin+Schuurman&s=digital-text&sr=1-1&text=Robbin+Schuurman50 Tinten Nee (in Dutch): https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/50-tinten-nee/9200000101843852/?bltgh=iWPPoVGjm68M9S1nT-pIWw.2_11.12.ProductTitle50 Arten Nein zu Sagen (in German): https://www.amazon.com/Arten-Nein-sagen-Effektives-Stakeholder-Management-ebook/dp/B08QNHVZY2/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1681897513&refinements=p_27:Robbin+Schuurman&s=digital-text&sr=1-2&text=Robbin+SchuurmanThe Product Samurai (in English): https://www.amazon.com/Product-Samurai-Chris-Lukassen/dp/9462287864Connect with them on LinkedIn:Robbin Schuurman - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbinschuurman/Chris Lukassen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrislukassen/Check out their Blog: www.thevaluemaximizers.com ----------------------------------------------------------------Connect with us at the following places:Wisconsin AgilityTraining: https://wisconsinagility.com/trainingAdvising: https://wisconsinagility.com/advisingMerch: https://wisconsinagility.com/merchJeff BubolzJeff Bubolz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbubolz/Jeff Bubolz Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffBubolz Chad BeierChad Beier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadbeier/Agile Songs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongsAgile Songs Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs/shortsAgile Songs Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileSongsThe Agile WireWeb: https://theagilewire.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YKEHJtcJXZ55ohsUOvklI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agile-wire/id1455057621 Agile Wire Clips: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLl0ryedF7y7HWTsbur4ysdpUcY7tniSGAgile Wire Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileWire Make sure you subscribe to the channel!#Scrum #Agile #ProfessionalScrum #Kanban #BusinessAgility

May 22, 2023 • 44min
Don't Divide by Zero - The Collaboration Equation featuring Jim Benson
00:00 Intro00:35 Jim's New Music Album03:52 Why write "The Collaboration Equation" book06:38 Structure of the book11:10 Leadership is a verb16:10 Ten rules for jamming - applied to product development20:13 Problems to create the right environment for collaboration21:37 Acting with confidence 29:02 If you always bring the same tool you are the tool31:50 Does agile scale?33:53 Responsibility and clarity 35:57 How to make work not suck!42:58 OutroThe Collaboration Equation: Strong Professionals | Strong Teams | Strong Delivery -https://www.amazon.com/Collaboration-Equation-Strong-Professionals-Delivery-ebook/dp/B0BHXDBG25Modus Institute - https://www.modusinstitute.com/10 Rules for Jamming - https://www.wamplerpedals.com/blog/music/2019/05/10-rules-of-jamming/ Getting People to Play Along - https://www.modusinstitute.net/posts/weekly-jim-33-getting-people-to-play-along ----------------------------------------------------------------Connect with us at the following places:Wisconsin AgilityTraining: https://wisconsinagility.com/trainingAdvising: https://wisconsinagility.com/advisingMerch: https://wisconsinagility.com/merchJeff BubolzJeff Bubolz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbubolz/Jeff Bubolz Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffBubolz Chad BeierChad Beier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadbeier/Agile Songs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongsAgile Songs Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs/shortsAgile Songs Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileSongsThe Agile WireWeb: https://theagilewire.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YKEHJtcJXZ55ohsUOvklI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agile-wire/id1455057621 Agile Wire Clips: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLl0ryedF7y7HWTsbur4ysdpUcY7tniSGAgile Wire Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileWire Make sure you subscribe to the channel!#Scrum #Agile #ProfessionalScrum #Kanban #BusinessAgility

May 15, 2023 • 9min
Product Owner by Sprinting Heads Explained
00:00 Intro00:09 Product Owner Song (the verse)00:24 Getting Customer Feedback01:50 One Product Owner and Stress03:30 Product Owner Song (the chorus)04:01 Closing the Agile Feedback Loop08:31 OutroConnect with us at the following places:Wisconsin AgilityTraining: https://wisconsinagility.com/trainingAdvising: https://wisconsinagility.com/advisingMerch: https://wisconsinagility.com/merchJeff BubolzJeff Bubolz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbubolz/Jeff Bubolz Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffBubolz Chad BeierChad Beier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadbeier/Agile Songs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongsAgile Songs Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs/shortsAgile Songs Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileSongsThe Agile WireWeb: https://theagilewire.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YKEHJtcJXZ55ohsUOvklI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agile-wire/id1455057621 Agile Wire Clips: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLl0ryedF7y7HWTsbur4ysdpUcY7tniSGAgile Wire Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileWire Make sure you subscribe to the channel!#Scrum #Agile #ProfessionalScrum #Kanban #BusinessAgility

May 4, 2023 • 27min
Scrum Day! Join the Rebellion! Featuring Mary Iqbal
00:00 Intro00:21 Why Scrum Day02:49 Behind the scenes of Scrum Day04:50 Scrum Day as a Product 06:07 Sponsors 06:38 Scrum Day Teaser - Themes11:03 Scrum Day Logistics 11:32 Scrum Day Speakers15:06 Rebel Scrum19:24 What makes Scrum pleasant 21:58 The power of Liberating Structures 26:28 OutroScrum Day - https://www.scrumday.org/Mary Iqbal - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryiqbal/Rebel Scrum - https://www.rebelscrum.site/Connect with us at the following places:Wisconsin AgilityTraining: https://wisconsinagility.com/trainingAdvising: https://wisconsinagility.com/advisingMerch: https://wisconsinagility.com/merchJeff BubolzJeff Bubolz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbubolz/Jeff Bubolz Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffBubolz Chad BeierChad Beier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadbeier/Agile Songs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongsAgile Songs Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs/shortsAgile Songs Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileSongsThe Agile WireWeb: https://theagilewire.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YKEHJtcJXZ55ohsUOvklI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agile-wire/id1455057621 Agile Wire Clips: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLl0ryedF7y7HWTsbur4ysdpUcY7tniSGAgile Wire Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileWire Make sure you subscribe to the channel!#Scrum #Agile #ProfessionalScrum #Kanban #BusinessAgility

May 1, 2023 • 9min
All The Scrum Things Explained
00:00 Intro00:17 Inspiration for All The Scrum Things01:30 Song Clip 101:45 Scrum Brings Agility02:50 Feedback in Scrum04:11 Transparency in Scrum05:38 Song Clip 205:51 The Sprint in Scrum07:38 Sprint-182 Sticker on Guitar07:51 Song Clip 3 and OutroConnect with us at the following places:Wisconsin AgilityTraining: https://wisconsinagility.com/trainingAdvising: https://wisconsinagility.com/advisingMerch: https://wisconsinagility.com/merchJeff BubolzJeff Bubolz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbubolz/Jeff Bubolz Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffBubolz Chad BeierChad Beier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadbeier/Agile Songs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongsAgile Songs Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs/shortsAgile Songs Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileSongsThe Agile WireWeb: https://theagilewire.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YKEHJtcJXZ55ohsUOvklI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agile-wire/id1455057621 Agile Wire Clips: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLl0ryedF7y7HWTsbur4ysdpUcY7tniSGAgile Wire Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileWire Make sure you subscribe to the channel!#Scrum #Agile #ProfessionalScrum #Kanban #BusinessAgility

Apr 24, 2023 • 59min
The Next Evolution of Agility with Jurgen Appelo
00:00 Start00:21 Intro01:10 SAFe Framework Vs UnFix Model05:10 Pattern Library of the UnFix Model - Lego Analogy 13:08 Is SAFe the new waterfall?16:55 Network vs Matrix Organizations19:40 Startups Using UnFix23:56 Wasteful Organizational Transformations28:20 Sources of Innovation30:05 From Product to Experience35:07 Fast Delivery is NOT a Better Experience - Spotify is Destroying the Music Experience38:51 The Value of Scarcity46:37 Customer Learning with Scarcity52:50 Getting started with the UnFix Model58:42 OutroJurgen Appelo LinksUnfix Model - https://unfix.com/Management 3.0 - https://www.amazon.com/Management-3-0-Developers-Developing-Addison-Wesley/dp/0321712471/ref=sr_1_1?crid=JP9NGBZ43RCK&keywords=Jurgen+Appelo&qid=1681149231&s=audible&sprefix=jurgen+appelo%2Caudible%2C131&sr=1-1-catcorrConnect with us at the following places:Wisconsin AgilityTraining: https://wisconsinagility.com/trainingAdvising: https://wisconsinagility.com/advisingMerch: https://wisconsinagility.com/merchJeff BubolzJeff Bubolz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbubolz/Jeff Bubolz Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffBubolz Chad BeierChad Beier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadbeier/Agile Songs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongsAgile Songs Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs/shortsAgile Songs Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileSongsThe Agile WireWeb: https://theagilewire.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YKEHJtcJXZ55ohsUOvklI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agile-wire/id1455057621 Agile Wire Clips: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLl0ryedF7y7HWTsbur4ysdpUcY7tniSGAgile Wire Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileWire Make sure you subscribe to the channel!#Scrum #Agile #ProfessionalScrum #Kanban #BusinessAgility

Apr 17, 2023 • 12min
Best Sprint With My Scrum Team Explained
00:00 Intro00:09 New Experiment - Behind the Music03:58 The Song - Best Sprint With My Scrum Team06:30 Meaning Behind the Lyrics10:00 Teach Me Scrum11:37 WrapupConnect with us at the following places:Wisconsin AgilityTraining: https://wisconsinagility.com/trainingAdvising: https://wisconsinagility.com/advisingMerch: https://wisconsinagility.com/merchJeff BubolzJeff Bubolz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbubolz/Jeff Bubolz Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffBubolz Chad BeierChad Beier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadbeier/Agile Songs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongsAgile Songs Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs/shortsAgile Songs Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileSongsThe Agile WireWeb: https://theagilewire.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YKEHJtcJXZ55ohsUOvklI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agile-wire/id1455057621 Agile Wire Clips: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLl0ryedF7y7HWTsbur4ysdpUcY7tniSGAgile Wire Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileWire Make sure you subscribe to the channel!#Scrum #Agile #ProfessionalScrum #Kanban #BusinessAgility

Apr 10, 2023 • 1h 2min
Why This Change? Why Now? Jason Little
0:22 Intro2:49 Agile Transformation Failed (Agile Comedy)8:03 Common Pitfalls and Patterns14:50 Change Management?24:30 Feedback vs Analysis Mindset27:22 Patience and Persistence32:10 Scrum Master Skills36:00 Internal vs External Change Agents39:45 Getting Naked (the book)44:30 Change Agent Stances51:39 Still Discovering "agile" in 202354:05 Waves of Change56:28 Guitars, Agile Comedy, Agile Songs1:00:02 WrapupConnect with us at the following places:Wisconsin AgilityTraining: https://wisconsinagility.com/trainingAdvising: https://wisconsinagility.com/advisingMerch: https://wisconsinagility.com/merchJeff BubolzJeff Bubolz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbubolz/Jeff Bubolz Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffBubolz Chad BeierChad Beier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadbeier/Agile Songs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongsAgile Songs Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs/shortsAgile Songs Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileSongsThe Agile WireWeb: https://theagilewire.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YKEHJtcJXZ55ohsUOvklI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agile-wire/id1455057621 Agile Wire Clips: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLl0ryedF7y7HWTsbur4ysdpUcY7tniSGAgile Wire Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileWire Make sure you subscribe to the channel!#Scrum #Agile #ProfessionalScrum #Kanban #BusinessAgility

Mar 20, 2023 • 44min
Product Backlog Management on the Scrum Master Toolbox
0:25 Bonus Episode Intro 1:10 Chad and Jeff Intros on Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast 2:37 From Frantic and Stressful to Strategic and Focused Backlogs 4:19 Task-based backlogs... 5:53 Focused and strategic backlog 9:40 Moving from tasks to impacts and outcomes (product goals) 10:37 Decomposition or recomposition? 12:45 Scrum teams are expensive 14:34 Why do we do product backlog refinement? 15:30 REFINEMENT TIP: Talk time 16:03 REFINEMENT TIP: Questions and summaries 16:40 REFINEMENT TIP: Diverge/merge cycles 17:30 Practical facilitation for refinement session 19:56 Tools for strategic product ownership 24:21 Strategy, focus, tradeoffs 28:30 Solution vs problem statements 30:47 Track dependencies 33:00 Flat product backlog 33:54 Impact and outcome statements 39:05 The Agile Wire 39:39 Agile Songs 40:50 The Lean Startup 41:50 Product Owner Summit (https://productownersummit.org) Check out the Scrum Master Toolbox podcast at https://scrum-master-toolbox.org Connect with us at the following places: Wisconsin Agility Training: https://wisconsinagility.com/training Advising: https://wisconsinagility.com/advising Merch: https://wisconsinagility.com/merch Jeff Bubolz Jeff Bubolz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbubolz/ Jeff Bubolz Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeffBubolz Chad Beier Chad Beier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadbeier/ Agile Songs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs Agile Songs Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/@agilesongs/shorts Agile Songs Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileSongs The Agile Wire Web: https://theagilewire.com Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YKEHJtcJXZ55ohsUOvklI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agile-wire/id1455057621 Agile Wire Clips: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLl0ryedF7y7HWTsbur4ysdpUcY7tniSG Agile Wire Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgileWire Make sure you subscribe to the channel! #Scrum #Agile #ProfessionalScrum #Kanban #BusinessAgility