Capitalmind Podcast

Our latest podcast episode is here, and it's all about exploring the different ways investors make money in the market. From thrilling arbitrage strategies to the art of short-term trading, we'll cover it all in a language that even your neighbour's fish could understand (well, almost!). But that's not all—our experts will take you on a journey through long-term fundamental investing and quantitative approaches too. Expect some fascinating stories, like the infamous LTCM blow-up, and how best investors (& trades) made their fortunes. We'll also unravel the logic behind the elusive VC's hunt for 50x returns and how even "value stocks" need a dash of momentum. So, whether you're an investing enthusiast or just curious about the market's mysterious ways, you won't want to miss this one. References 00:38 What do you think about the new all-time high? How do you view different types of investing strategies in the market and how to make money from these strategies? 24:27 The problem with peoples expectations: When I say stock markets do 12%, people expect this to be linear. 27:00 Concept of Expectancy 33:29 Problem in arbitrage is competition, so you need to lever yourself up 38:21 Option volatility trading - sell options expiring in 2 days and make the decay 46:32 When VC wins they need to win huge 49:50 Nifty monthly returns - how do quant strategies do? 56:52 We have just hit all time high. Based on the past data, how long can this good time potentially last? Which one is your favourite investing strategy? Liked the episode? Just tweet to us at @capitalmind_in and let us know. That's all we need to keep going!

Welcome back to another episode of our podcast, where we dive deep into the world of finance and investment. In today's episode, we will be exploring the fascinating realm of mutual fund costs and SEBI's recent proposals to bring them down. As the saying goes, "The devil is in the details," and when it comes to investing, understanding the various expenses involved is crucial for making informed decisions. In this captivating episode, we will dissect SEBI's latest discussion paper on Mutual Fund TER (Total Expense Ratio), which shed light on the inner workings of mutual fund costs and the need for change. We'll embark on a journey led by our expert hosts, Deepak & Shray, who will unravel the complexities of the system and explore the potential implications of SEBI's proposals. Get ready to gain valuable insights and answers to burning questions. What is the Total Expense Ratio (TER) of a mutual fund, and what does it include and exclude? Why does SEBI propose changes in TER, and how will it affect mutual fund investors? How do large distributors exploit the system, and what measures can be taken to address this issue? Can tweaking TERs alone make the mutual fund industry 10x bigger, or are there other critical factors to consider? What innovative avenues could mutual funds explore to earn higher TER while providing value to investors? Tell us on twitter @capitalmind_in on how did you like this episode. Your feedback means the world to us! Show Notes & References 02:00 Thoughts on the recent discussion paper by SEBI on Mutual Fund TERs 10:30 SEBI is saying "You are making too much money", reduce fees 19:25 Largest India equity scheme is charging the maximum fees possible 31:30 Limited Purpose Trading membership for AMCs to trade directly on the exchange 43:00 Why should a big fund house have the ability to charge more on a new scheme? 48:00 Performance based AUM through sandbox 53:00 How do you make the mutual fund industry 10X bigger?

Explore the role of arbitrage funds in investment portfolios and the recent changes in debt mutual fund taxation. Discuss the potential systemic risk of a tax-rule change on arbitrage funds. Learn about low-risk investment options and potential buying opportunities in the new tax environment. Understand the implications of the tax-change on arbitrage funds, including higher expense ratios and potential losses for mutual fund managers. Highlight the importance of caution for asset management companies trading rights shares.

"Taxation is the price we pay for civilisation," as the saying goes. But what happens when the price tag keeps going up? You may have thought you understood the friendly taxation system, until a new rule comes up that leaves you feeling like you've been sucker-punched. That's what recently happened when the government took away the tax efficiency of debt mutual funds and increased taxation. Suddenly, investors were left wondering how this would impact their investments and whether they needed to change their strategies. In this episode of our podcast, Deepak and Shray delve into the conversation around the new taxation rules for debt funds. They ask the tough questions that many investors are likely asking themselves such as: whether taxation should be a factor when investing in equities, what to do with existing debt funds, whether foreign investing is still exciting after all the taxes. But it's not all doom and gloom. They also explore other investment options such as MLDs, Gold, Real Estate, Startups, AIFs, and ETFs. Taxes are indeed taxing. But who knows, maybe someday Pink Floyd will come up with a new hit single titled "We don't need no TAXES." Until then, tune in to our podcast to stay informed and keep your investing game strong. Don't miss out on the show notes and references for this episode, where you'll find timestamps for each topic covered. So grab a drink, relax, and join us as we explore the fascinating and ever-changing world of investing and taxation. Show Notes & References Click here for the Google Sheet 8:50 Now all debt instruments are taxed similarly, isn't it now a fair system? 18:45 What should I do with my existing debt funds? 27:00 Should taxation be a factor while investing in equities? 33:00 In stocks, should you sell underperforming stocks and move to other stocks? 36:00 What about  MLDs, Gold & Real Estate. 53:00 How investments in startups are taxed? 56:00 What about AIFs and ETFs? 1:05:30 Is foreign investing still exciting after all the taxes? 1:09:00 Final thoughts

“A market without bears would be like a nation without a free press. There would be no one to criticize and restrain the false optimism that always leads to disaster” - Bernard Baruch Short selling is mostly misunderstood and often demonized. Quite understandable, it's difficult to put your head around a concept that involves selling something that you don’t already own. But, it’s not as sinister as it is made out to be. Markets have enough checks and balances to accommodate short sellers and maintain their balance. Recently, we saw Adani group stocks come under attack by a US-based short seller which resulted in the marketcap of the group falling more than 50% within a month. This sparked a discussion on the concept of short selling. We're not going to talk about the specifics of this short by Hindebug. Instead, in this episode, we will talk about the nuances of short selling, their impact on the market, and dive deeper into how the whole thing works. Join, Deepak & Shray, as they talk about: How does short selling work? Is short selling always to bring down a stock? The operational aspects of short selling in India and the US? Examples of different short trades & how they played out Which market players, except short sellers, also short stocks? Show Notes & References 1:10 What is short selling 5:15 Why people would do short selling? 11:30 Are HFTs also market makers? Or speculators? 13:30 Paul Tudor Jones and the 80s crash 19:30 How do Indians short a stock? 23:00 How do US traders generally short a stock? 33:00 NSEL fiasco 42:00 Do arbitrage mutual funds also short sells stocks? 45:00 How does a foreign fund short an Indian stock? 47:00 Should short selling be illegal? 49:00 Can a PMS (like us) go short and benefit from such trades? 54:30 The thing called "short squeeze" and stories from far & recent past

Things escalate and hit the fan very quickly in banking. It's fascinating to see how banks go belly-up for the same fundamental reasons but in an entirely unique way each time. It's like being served the same romantic comedy story again and again with different actors, locations, and songs. But, these banking crisis stories are not as enjoyable and they hurt real people financially and emotionally. In this episode, we discuss the crisis at Silicon Valley Bank. How this seemingly robust, conservative, bank with $180 billion in deposits tumbled down in just a couple of days. All was good with the Silicon Valley Bank until, one day, it wasn't. NO, there was no accounting scam. This isn't like Enron.  NO, there wasn't any irresponsible speculative betting. This isn't like Lehman.  This time it's a different story. But, with the same result.  Listen in as Deepak and Shray tell you everything you need to know about the Silicon Valley Bank crisis:  What actually happened?  What could SVB have done differently starting a year ago? Understand how rising interest rates affect the business of banking What is going to happen next? Lessons for the future If you enjoy Capitalmind Podcast, tweet to us @capitalmind_in and let us know. It doesn't take more than 2 minutes and is the fuel that keeps us going.

Anyone who thinks financial accounting is boring hasn't seen the creativity in some of the financial statements. Not just in India but across the world. In this podcast, Deepak and Shray discuss the shenanigans of financial accounting while referencing various case studies from the business world. This discussion is important because "new age" businesses in India have started reporting "adjusted" accounting statements along with standard reports. While we do understand the need for "adjusted" metrics to gauge the health of a business. Especially when the nature of business is unconventional and may not be represented well by the existing reporting system. But more often than not, such adjustments are used for misguiding investors.  Listen in to figure out:  Why do businesses need to report adjusted earnings? How cheques, affiliates, GMVs, and ESOPs are used for creative accounting?  If such reporting is legal, why should investors care? How do you recognize whether adjustments are real or not? Show notes and time stamps 1:50   - What’s the big issue with showing adjusted revenues? 10:20 - Shenanigans of adjusting revenues go back to the days of AOL (1990s) 13:45 - Argument of using the contribution margin 23:00 - How do “adjusted” numbers mislead stakeholders? 27:30 - Examples of creatively using metrics to manipulate numbers? 52:40 - VCs & Investors want “adjusted” metrics to understand business performance 1:00:00 - How to recognize if adjustments are real or not?

  Stockbroking is a unique business enabling millions of people to trade billions of dollars of stocks with unknown counterparties. All trades, in this highly regulated ecosystem, are executed seamlessly, settled correctly, and recorded meticulously. It’s fascinating to see how far India has come in making this ecosystem world-class and in some cases, the best in the world. In this podcast, Deepak and Shray discuss the nuances of stock broking and how proposed regulations will impact the stock broking industry. They discuss, in detail, the role of stock brokers, regulators (SEBI), clearing corporations, exchanges, and investors. As an investor, how brokers are regulated doesn’t impact you directly. Yet, it is important to figure out what happens to your money when you click that buy/sell button on your app. Listen in as we talk about: How does stock broking work in its present form? What are the new regulations proposed? How will these regulations impact the stock brokers? How will it benefit the investors? Timestamps: 02:10 - How trades are settled by your broker and exchange? Earlier and Now? 14:15 - Moving from t+2 to t+1 in settling share transactions 16:20 - Now clearing corporation holds the transactions before settlement. Is it safe? 21:15 - The practice of commingling (shares & money) and regulations around it 40:00 - Drying up float income and the new role of a broker? 44:00 - How much does “no float income” hurt the broker? 52:30 - Will these regulations, meant to protect investors, actually lead to an increase in brokerage charges? 55:10 - Can these regulations prove to be counterproductive? 1:03:00 - Closing remarks

Forecasting is a very difficult business, like selecting lottery tickets. No one could have predicted 2022 as a year in which there was geopolitical war, worldwide inflation, a massive hike in interest rates worldwide, and the US S&P 500 down about 20%, and yet, the Indian markets ended up 4%. If anyone got this spot on, they could still be terribly wrong for 2023. That’s why we don’t predict, we react. So, what’s going to happen in 2023? We can almost hear this question, despite all the data that says prediction is a waste of time. But then, much about the markets is an entertainment business, which means it’s great to see people make crazy zany predictions, and maybe some of them will win. So we’ll participate mildly in what should purely be entertainment, even if at some point it appears to have deep investing insights. Show Notes and References 1:55 Where should we invest in 2023 and some random predictions 3:00 Four ways this decade will be different from the last one 8:30 Return of Volatility in the markets 14:00 The peril of high interest rates Podcast: Investing in a world with high interest rates 17:00 Return of inflation and higher yields 23:00 Putting Indian inflation in perspective 34:20 Geopolitical turmoil & the return of asset-heavy 39:40 ChatGPT, role of AI & Predicting how humans will react 47:00 Tactically where do I invest my money now? 51:00 Sectors that are positioned well for the current macroeconomic scenario 59:45 Will emerging markets outshine US markets? How did you like the podcast? – Tweet to use at @capitalmind_in

In this conversation with Shray, Deepak shares why he feels now is the time for India's concept of a Retirement Account - he calls it the MERA account. This account should help improve investment opportunities for retail customers, create a longer-term investment horizon and push people to save for their retirements. Listen in as we discuss: The concept of a retirement account Impact on the economy and people Imagining a retirement account scheme that works for India The operational aspect of such an account Who would oppose such a thing? Show notes and references 2:00 - Seven consecutive years of positive market returns for India 4:00 Seize the opportunity of India story with retirement accounts  Read: My Empowered Retirement Account (MERA) 8:30 Where do LIC and EPFO invest retirement money  "We're giving asset managers our retirement money and asking them to do great things for the next 20 - 30 years... But, they're not doing great things... They are conservative.. not letting me realize my larger risk appetite." 14:30 ELSS equity funds hold money for a longer period of time. Can't they act as retirement funds? 17:00 The peril of investing for retirement with post-tax money  25:00 Deepak introduces his idea of MERA - My Empowered Retirement Account (MERA) 33:00 Why does this matter so much at the national policy level?  41:20 Who are the people who would feel this is not a good idea?