

Talking Under Water
Endeavor Business Media
Talking Under Water is a One Water podcast for the water industry. Editors from Endeavor’s Water Group highlight news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts. Topics covered include water and wastewater treatment, stormwater and erosion control, diversity, regulations/legislation, flooding, circular water economy, water scarcity, small systems, emerging contaminants, smart water and more.
Episodes
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Jul 20, 2023 • 31min
Episode 72: The evolution of water reuse
In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts discuss a new study from the USGS regarding the prevalence of PFAS chemicals in tap water throughout the U.S., the launch of the American Business Water Coalition led by Mae Stevens and New Jersey’s PFAS settlement with Solvay. Additionally, they share an interview with Katie Peach, North American domain leader for potable and advanced reuse for Veolia Water Technologies & Solutions. Peach, a 2023 Wastewater Digest Young Pro, shares details on how technology is evolving to meet water reuse needs in North America, the regulatory landscapes being reshaped and where business opportunities lie.
Show Notes:
USGS study estimates 45% of tap water has PFAS present
American Business Water Coalition
New Jersey reaches $393M proposed PFAS contamination settlement with Solvay
Katie Peach, Veolia Water Technologies & Solutions | WWD Young Pros
Mae Stevens | WWD Young Pros
Timestamps:
Cold open | 0:00
Host introductions and episode summary | 0:33
USGS PFAS Study | 1:42
American Business Water Coalition | 5:08
Solvay PFAS Settlement | 6:08
Water reuse interview begins | 9:41
Current water reuse trends in North America | 10:10
What is driving water reuse trends | 12:03
Sustainability as a driver | 14:55
Technologies creating a water reuse future | 16:22
No one-size-fits-all flowsheet for water reuse | 19:58
Breaking down silos for water reuse progress | 20:44
Barriers for water recycling success | 22:27
Parting thoughts | 26:21
Water reuse resources | 27:00
Housekeeping | 29:13
Awards:
Stormwater Solutions Top Projects
StormCon Discount:
Talking Under Water listeners have access to a special discount code to register for this year's StormCon. When registering, use the code ONEWATER10 to receive a 10% discount on your conference registration. Visit bit.ly/stormconreg2023 to register and use the code.
About the Podcast
Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.
Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.

Jul 3, 2023 • 9min
Episode 71: Consumer Confidence Reports
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, Mandy Crispin is joined by editor Jeremy Wolfe to talk about the U.S. EPA’s proposed changes to Consumer Confidence Reports.
The proposed rulemaking introduces significant changes to the relationship between utilities and customers — though some of the changes are not as drastic as they may seem.
Show Notes:
EPA’s proposed Consumer Confidence Report rulemaking, explained
What the proposed Water Quality Report changes could mean for utilities
EPA’s proposed CCR rule and its benefits for accessibility
Timestamps:
Cold open | 0:00
Host introductions & episode overview | 1:12
What are the proposed CCR changes? | 2:57
Anticipated effects of the CCR proposed rule-making | 4:04
Translation services requirement for CCRs | 6:34
Housekeeping | 7:33
StormCon Discount:
Talking Under Water listeners have access to a special discount code to register for this year's StormCon. When registering, use the code ONEWATER10 to receive a 10% discount on your conference registration. Visit bit.ly/stormconreg2023 to register and use the code.
About the Podcast
Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.
Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com or engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.

Jun 22, 2023 • 25min
Episode 70: AWWA ACE23 Wrap-up
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water co-host Bob Crossen is joined by fellow Endeavor Business Media Water Group editors, Mandy Crispin and Jeremy Wolfe, to discuss AWWA ACE23. The editors touch trending topics they heard at ACE, including workforce issues, drought and waning water supplies, and advancements in smart water technology, particularly with AI and machine learning. Additionally, the editors touch on the vast regulatory landscape that industry is experiencing right now.
Show Notes:
New Products at AWWA's ACE23
Smart water products at AWWA ACE23
Leak detection products at AWWA ACE23
PFAS treatment solutions and products at AWWA ACE23
Lead and Copper Rule solutions at AWWA ACE23
Timestamps:
Cold open | 0:00
Host introductions | 1:17
The discussions surrounding PFAS | 2:27
Cybersecurity becomes a pressing concern | 3:30
Consumer confidence reports | 4:09
AWWA's response to PFAS MCL proposal | 4:42
Build America, Buy America education is needed | 6:05
BABA compliance guidance is still forthcoming | 7:16
Lead and Copper Rule improvements and communications | 9:21
The growing trend of artificial intelligence | 11:34
Positioning smart water technologies as workforce solutions | 13:22
New products and solutions at AWWA ACE23 | 15:14
PFAS and LCRI solutions | 16:31
Drought condition approaches and supply management | 19:27
A focus on the science | 20:42
A future-looking mindset for the industry | 21:16
Housekeeping | 22:50
StormCon Discount:
Talking Under Water listeners have access to a special discount code to register for this year's StormCon. When registering, use the code ONEWATER10 to receive a 10% discount on your conference registration. Visit bit.ly/stormconreg2023 to register and use the code.
About the Podcast
Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.
Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@sgcmail.com or engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.

Jun 1, 2023 • 22min
Episode 69: Exploring the ocean’s future with bluetech
In this episode of Talking Under Water, co-host Katie Johns interviews Eric Hines, a professor at Tufts University. The two discuss the upcoming Tufts’ Bluetech Innovation Day, why the ocean is essential to fighting climate change and how bluetech technologies are playing into this. Hines also shares examples of bluetech projects that emphasize why collaboration across industries, including energy and oil and water, is so important. ,
Show Notes
Bluetech Innovation Day
World Ocean Day
Talking Under Water Episode 53: Discussing Water as a Global Community
Timestamps
Introduction | 0:00
Interview starts | 0:32
Eric Hines' role at Tufts University | 1:24
New technologies and innovations | 2:29
Hurdles for innovations to combat climate change | 5:36
Securing research funding to accelerate innovation | 7:08
Breaking down silos to solve problems | 9:37
Why the ocean is essential to climate change | 11:44
Collaboration is vital | 15:05
Examples of recent research | 16:06
Final thoughts | 17:43
Housekeeping | 20:26
Resources
WQP Awards
WWD Top Projects
WWD Industry Icon
WWD Youtube Channel
StormCon Discount:
Talking Under Water listeners have access to a special discount code to register for this year's StormCon. When registering, use the code ONEWATER10 to receive a 10% discount on your conference registration. Visit bit.ly/stormconreg2023 to register and use the code.
About the Podcast
Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tylayshia / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.
Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@sgcmail.com or engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.

May 24, 2023 • 23min
Bonus Episode: Smart water products & solutions with Badger Meter
In this sponsored episode of Talking Under Water, Bob Crossen speaks with Badger Meter Vice President of Software and Water Quality Matt Stuyvenberg about smart water, flow measurement and water quality. Badger Meter acquired ATI Technologies, s::can and Syrinix to bolster its presence in the water quality and pressure measurement markets. By combining the company’s expertise in flow measurement with these pressure measurement and water quality technologies, Stuyvenberg explains how intelligent measurement is improving utility decision-making around the world.
Show Notes:
Visit the Badger Meter website
Ultrasonic meters deliver smart savings for Rowan County
Read more smart utility articles
Timestamps:
Introduction | 0:00
Interview begins | 1:04
Defining smart water | 1:25
Speed of smart water adoption | 3:17
How have metering technologies evolved? | 4:16
Benefits of cellular communications | 5:50
The intersection of flow measurement and water quality | 8:16
Correlating data in quicker timeframes is a learning moment | 10:17
Emerging trends in water quality monitoring | 11:34
Resilience for wastewater monitoring and collection systems | 14:40
How customers are using solutions today | 17:13
How to make devices talk to each other | 19:03
Housekeeping | 20:56
Awards
WQP Awards: www.wqpmag.com/faces-industry
WWD Top Projects: www.wwdmag.com/top-projects-nomination
WWD Industry Icon: www.wwdmag.com/industry-icon-nomination-form
WWD Youtube Channel: www.youtube.com/@wastewaterdigest
StormCon Discount:
Talking Under Water listeners have access to a special discount code to register for this year's StormCon. When registering, use the code ONEWATER10 to receive a 10% discount on your conference registration. Visit bit.ly/stormconreg2023 to register and use the code.
About the Podcast
Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tylayshia / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.
Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@sgcmail.com or engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.

May 18, 2023 • 35min
Episode 68: Flood Control Trends
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Bob Crossen and Katie Johns give an update on Build America, Buy America as the 1-year anniversary of its implementation hits. They also touch on U.S. EPA’s first-ever Clean Water Act Enforcement for PFAS in stormwater and share an update from the Chesapeake Bay Program’s Scientific and Technical Advisory Committee. Finally, they share interview with Pradeep Nagarajan, integrated water management, technical director for GHD. Johns spoke with Pradeep on all things flood control – trends, new technologies and how the climate is playing into these.
Show Notes:
EPA makes first-ever Clean Water Act enforcement for PFAS in stormwater
Chesapeake Bay Foundation releases report on slow restoration
Build America, Buy America and its implementation issues
What to know about the Build America, Buy America Act today
Timestamps:
Cold open | 0:00
Episode summary | 1:06
BABA 1-year anniversary overview | 1:44
Who ensures BABA compliance? | 4:39
How are subcomponents calculated in manufactured products? | 5:11
How should OEMs respond to seeing BABA compliance in bid specs? | 5:39
Is labor counted in construction or assembly? | 6:20
Timelines and business impacts on BABA | 7:19
The first ever CWA PFAS enforcement for stormwater | 8:45
Chesapeake Bay water quality progess slower than expected | 10:16
Interview begins
Trends or solutions for flood mitigation | 13:06
Challenges in overcoming feasibility of solutions | 14:19
The impacts of frequency and intensity of storms increasing | 16:45
GHD’s approach to flood mitigation | 20:43
One water and regional stormwater strategies | 23:28
How funding improves adaptability | 25:43
Digital transformation and artificial intelligence | 27:41
Importance of collaboration and communication | 29:22
Final thoughts | 30:51
Housekeeping | 32:30
Awards
WQP Faces of the Industry
StormCon Discount:
Talking Under Water listeners have access to a special discount code to register for this year's StormCon. When registering, use the code ONEWATER10 to receive a 10% discount on your conference registration. Visit bit.ly/stormconreg2023 to register and use the code.
About the Podcast
Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.
Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@sgcmail.com or engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.

May 4, 2023 • 18min
Episode 67: The Reservoir Center for Water Solutions
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, Bob Crossen was invited to The Reservoir Center for Water Solutions in Washington, D.C. Although sponsored by Xylem, the center aims to be a neutral space for water leaders to convene, share ideas and have productive conversations about the most pressing water concerns of our time. In this episode’s interview, Josh Mahan, director of government and industry relations for Xylem, shares why this mission is important for the center, how it aims to accomplish that and how it will carry that charge for the future.
Show Notes:
Flip through The Reservoir Center Photo Gallery (https://waterworld.com/home/media-gallery/14293333/the-reservoir-center-for-water-solutions)
Learn more about The Reservoir Center on its website (https://www.reservoircenter.org/)
Read the press release about the opening of the center (https://www.waterworld.com/drinking-water/potable-water-quality/press-release/14278408/water-leaders-launch-new-center-to-accelerate-action-on-global-water-sustainability-challenges)
Timestamps:
Introduction | 0:00
Interview begins | 1:01
Why make The Reservoir Center | 1:25
How do you envision using this space | 3:35
The Reservoir Center partners and affiliates | 7:10
How the center can tackle our water challenges | 9:38
A space to think and dream about water’s future | 12:38
Interview outro | 13:45
Housekeeping | 14:46
About the Podcast
Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.
Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@sgcmail.com or engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.

Apr 28, 2023 • 33min
Episode 66: Analysis of U.S. EPA’s PFAS MCLs proposal
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Bob Crossen and Katie Johns touch on the Healthy Drinking Water Affordability Act and funding that has been appropriated for the Clean Water State Revolving fund. Finally, we are sharing two interviews in this episode, one with Walt Marlowe, executive director of the Water Environment Federation and Chris Moody of the American Water Works Association. These two interviews share both WEF and AWWA’s thoughts on the EPA’s PFAS MCLs goals and measurements.
Show Notes:
Talking Under Water Episode 65: EPA proposes PFAS Maximum Contaminant Levels (https://www.wwdmag.com/contaminants/per-polyflouroalkyl-substances-pfas/podcast/33002985/talking-under-water-episode-65-epa-proposes-pfas-maximum-contaminant-levels)
EPA proposes MCLs for six PFAS in drinking water (https://www.waterworld.com/drinking-water/potable-water-quality/article/14290995/epa-proposes-mcls-for-six-pfas-in-drinking-water)
Healthy Drinking Water Affordability Act introduced in House (https://www.wqpmag.com/filtration/press-release/33002448/healthy-drinking-water-affordability-act-introduced-in-house)
EPA announces $775M for Clean Water SRF (https://www.wwdmag.com/utility-management/press-release/33002951/epa-announces-775m-for-clean-water-state-revolving-fund)
About the Podcast
Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.
Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@sgcmail.com or engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.

Apr 5, 2023 • 9min
Episode 65: EPA proposes PFAS Maximum Contaminant Levels
On March 14, U.S. EPA held a press conference in Wilmington, North Carolina to announce the Maximum Contaminant Levels and Maximum Contaminant Level goals for six PFAS, including the two most prolific ones, PFOA and PFOS. Endeavor Water Group Editor Jeremy Wolfe shares the details of this press conference as well as responses from industry experts and organizations following the announcement.
Show Notes:
EPA proposes MCLS for six PFAS in drinking water
Organizations have mixed responses to EPA’s proposed PFAS MCLs
Timestamps:
Episode summary | 0:10
The six regulated PFAS | 1:28
PFOA and PFOS MCL limits | 1:43
The PFAS hazard index | 1:55
Industry responds o PFAS MCLs | 3:46
Cost challenges | 4:21
Start Admin Regan audiogram | 4:56
EPA to hold polluters accountable | 5:38
Stresses on workforce and supply chains | 6:12
Criticism of hazard index | 6:47
Housekeeping | 7:32
Awards
WWD Young Pros : wwdmag.com/nominate
WQP Awards: www.wqpmag.com/faces-industry
StormCon Discount:
Talking Under Water listeners have access to a special discount code to register for this year's StormCon. When registering, use the code ONEWATER10 to receive a 10% discount on your conference registration. Visit bit.ly/stormconreg2023 to register and use the code.
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About the Podcast
Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.
Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@sgcmail.com or engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.

Mar 16, 2023 • 28min
Episode 64: Women in Water with Naomi Jones & Michaela Rempkowski
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water the hosts discuss U.S. EPA’s recent MCLs proposal for six PFAS in drinking water, share notes from a Build America, Buy America webinar and talk about new funding from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law through this year’s Clean Water State Revolving Fund. Finally, our interview this month is with Naomi Jones and Michaela Rempkowski, who are design integration directors for McCarthy Building Company’s Water Business Unit. They share with us their career paths, advice and what it means to be women in water.
Show Notes:
EPA allocates $2.4B for 2023 Clean Water State Revolving Fund
Talking Under Water Episode 63: Women in Water with Megan Glover
Women in Water: Creating a Pipeline to Opportunity
EPA proposes MCLs for six PFAS in drinking water
Examples of PFAS Hazard Index Equations
Timestamps:
Cold open | 0:00
Episode summary | 1:27
EPA PFAS MCL & MCLG announcement | 2:08
Cybersecurity memorandum | 5:19
Update on Build America, Buy America | 5:57
Impact of BABA delays on business | 8:32
EPA announcement of CWSRF funding | 9:27
Interview begins | 10:30
Michaela Rempkowski career path | 11:10
Naomi Jones career path | 12:15
McCarthy’s all-women design integration team | 13:20
What working with an all-women team is like | 15:17
The role of mentorship | 17:39
Michaela’s advice for young women professionals | 20:01
Naomi’s advice for young women professionals | 20:55
What it means to be a woman in the water industry | 22:30
Awards:
WWD Young Pros
WQP Young Pros & Industry Icon
StormCon Discount:
Talking Under Water listeners have access to a special discount code to register for this year's StormCon. When registering, use the code ONEWATER10 to receive a 10% discount on your conference registration. Visit bit.ly/stormconreg2023 to register and use the code.
About the Podcast
Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.
Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@sgcmail.com or engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.