Talking Under Water

In this episode of Talking Under Water, co-host Katie Johns is joined by Maria Lehman, GHD’s U.S. Infrastructure Lead, past president of ASCE, and vice chair of the president's national infrastructure advisory council. Lehman and Johns discuss GHD’s new CROSSROADS research study, which explores intergenerational equity through an infrastructure lens. 13,000 people across multiple generations were surveyed globally to share their thoughts and insights of what the future of infrastructure looks like to them. In this episode, Lehman discusses key takeaways and more.  Show Notes: VIDEO: GHD study examines path to equitable infrastructure New survey shows mixed feeling about future needs of America’s infrastructure   Timestamps:    Introduction | 0:09 Interview begins |1:06 What is the CROSSROADS report? | 1:30 Surprising water findings from the report | 2:41 Charting a path forward | 8:02 Public vs. private sector impacts | 10:32 How does workforce impact the future of infrastructure? | 13:38 The growing engagement with water issues | 17:47 Parting thoughts | 19:03 Housekeeping | 20:43  Resources Endeavor Water Group ehandbooks About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WW and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.                  

In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts dive into recent industry news, including NOAA funding for coastal resiliency along with a Safe Drinking Water Act Violation in New York state. Additionally, the hosts provide brief history and current notes on SRF funding.     Show Notes:   NOAA announces nearly $220 million for habitat restoration and coastal resilience  U.S. EPA announces settlement with New York water provider for violating Safe Drinking Water Act  Don't mess with the money: A look into the Clean Water State Revolving Fund    Timestamps:    Cold open | 0:00 Host introduction and episode summary | 0:36 NOAA funding for habitat restoration | 1:21 U.S. EPA SDWA settlement in New York | 2:42 CWSRF and the challenge of earmarks | 7:40 Housekeeping | 10:33   About the Podcast    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WW and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.        Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.     

In June, the United States Supreme Court overturned a 40-year-old precedent called “Chevron deference” in the “Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo” case. Chevron deference essentially meant that in cases where interpretation of a law developed by Congress was grey the courts would yield their decisions to the primacy agency in charge of enforcing the law. With this latest ruling, deference will not be given to those agencies, however, and the courts will be the ones to decide the outcome.       To better understand the impact this might have on the water industry, this episode features two interviews. In the first, Co-host Bob Crossen spoke with Jessie Rosell, a partner in Lathrop GPM's PFAS practice, about the impacts of Chevron on PFAS regulations and how the regulatory process may shift and change in the wake of his latest Supreme Court ruling. In the second interview, Co-host Katie Johns spoke with Seth Brown, executive director for the National Municipal Stormwater Alliance, about the impacts he anticipates seeing and what it means for the water sector.     Show Notes:   The future of regulatory authority – and how this may impact the stormwater sector  Supreme Court Rulings Challenge EPA Authority, Sparking Environmental Concerns  EPA designates PFOA and PFOS as hazardous substances under CERCLA  What do the new PFAS MCLs mean for the water industry?  From Endeavor Business Media Chevron deference is gone. What does that mean for trucking? - Fleet Owner SCOTUS limits power of federal government to regulate environmental, energy issues - Oil & Gas Journal Timestamps:   Introduction and episode summary: 0:08 Overview of Chevron deference with Jessie Rosell | 1:46 The thrust of the original Chevron decision | 3:00 Impacts of Chevron's overturn on PFAS regulations | 3:52 Challenges to the PFAS MCLs | 5:48 How the reversal of Chevron impacts regulation promulgation | 7:24 More involved Congressional hearings for effective law-making |9:37 Are lower courts prepared for this case load? | 10:32 How uncertainty creates delays | 12:33 Chevron deference context with Seth Brown | 13:39 How Chevron will impact the water sector | 17:02 Loss of Chevron and insonsistent legal rulings | 23:10 Local and regional regulatory patchwork | 26:17 Chevron overturn impacts future regulations, not past ones | 30:38 Housekeeping | 34:09  About the Podcast    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WW and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.   Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

In this episode of Talking Under Water co-hosts Bob Crossen and Mandy Crispin, along with Water Group Editor Alex Cossin share the trends they witnessed at AWWA ACE24 in Anaheim, California. Then, the hosts are joined by fellow co-host Katie Johns to discuss recent industry news, including $60 million in funding from the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Association to build a climate-ready workforce; and $65 million from the Department of Labor for workforce development in the U.S. with some specifically targeting the water sector. Also, hosts share information about microplastics legislation, Portland Maine’s lawsuit against DuPont and 3M for PFAS in wastewater, and microplastics legislation.   Show Notes:   White House announces $60 million to build climate-ready workforce U.S. EPA publishes 2024-2027 climate adaptation plan Portland, Maine, Water District joins wastewater class action lawsuit against PFAS manufacturers Bill requiring study of microplastics in drinking water passes assembly health committee U.S. Department of Labor awards $65 million in grants to community colleges to expand access to training Timestamps:  Cold open | 0:00 Host introduction and episode summary | 0:40 The "as a service" business model trend in water | 1:35 AWWA | 6:23 OCWD tour's value for editors | 7:55 NOAA's $60M plan for a climate-ready workforce | 9:13 Department of Labor investment in workforce | 11:23 Microplastics monitoring begins in California | 13:32 Portland, Maine files lawsuit against PFAS manufacturers | 14:48 Housekeeping | 16:30 Resources:  Meet the new AWWA President Cheryl Porter Ace 2024 opening general session thread About the Podcast    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WW and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.   Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

In this episode of Talking Under Water, Duke McCall, partner in Environmental Counseling & Litigation at Morgan Lewis, discusses the 1-year anniversary of the Sackett vs. EPA ruling. The Supreme Court’s decision on Sackett v. EPA significantly altered ‘waters of the United States,’ only allowing the regulation of wetlands that are indistinguishable from a protected body of water. In this interview, McCall discusses what has happened in the year since the ruling, work that has been done since and how the ruling has impacted it and where the industry goes from here. Show Notes:    Supreme Court weakens Clean Water Act’s wetlands protections Talking Under Water Episode 81: WOTUS & The Clean Water Act EPA, Army amend WOTUS to align with Supreme Court wetlands decision More than wetlands at stake in WOTUS fight Timestamps:    Introduction and episode summary | 0:00 Interview starts | 1:02 What's happened since the Sackett v. EPA ruling | 1:37 How does the election year impact these kinds of regulations? | 5:01 Have water professionals changed how they work? | 6:20 Slow rollout generations uncertainty | 7:37 Where do we go from here? | 8:44 Housekeeping | 10:59 Resources:  SWS Top Project Nominations WWD Top Project Nominations About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.     Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

In this episode, hosts discuss recent industry news, including DuPont's plans to spin off into multiple companies, in which the holding company’s electronics and water divisions will split from its core industrial chemical businesses. The hosts also discuss recent State Revolving Fund support across the water sector, Sewer Overflow and Stormwater Reuse Municipal Grant funding, the 2024 hurricane season and Yute Tribe water system funding. Show Notes:    NOAA predicts above-normal 2024 Atlantic hurricane season U.S. EPA announces over $2.8 million in funding for stormwater infrastructure in Region 7 From IndustryWeek: DuPont Preps Split Into Three Companies   Timestamps:    Cold open | 0:00 Host introduction and episode summary | 0:36 Overview of SRF Programs | 1:12 Funding programs for sewers | 3:11 Hurricane season predictions | 3:48 Dupont spins off water business | 4:49 Federal grants for water scarcity | 7:16 Housekeeping | 8:50 Resources:  SWS Top Projects   WaterWorld May/June Issue WasteWater Digest Top Projects About the Podcast    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WW and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.    Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

In this episode of Talking Under Water, co-host Katie Johns interviews Roland Jones, market director for the Mid-Atlantic Region for the Clean Water Partnership and Corvias Infrastructure Solutions. The two discuss various aspects of flood control, including funding, flood mitigation challenges and implementing flood control measures.  

In this episode of Talking Under Water, we touch on recent industry news, including the looming biosolids crisis in Maine following the state's ban on land application due to biosolids. Incinerators and landfills have limited what they will accept and the only state-run landfill expects to run out of capacity by 2028. We also touch on funding for the Chesapeake Bay as well as some news about cybersecurity and infrastructure investments. We are trying something new and separating news into its own episode, so you won’t hear an interview today. We are doing this to give us more space to discuss the news in more depth. Since it is an experiment, be sure to let us know your thoughts!   Show Notes Industry warns of biosolids crisis in Maine EPA announces $206M in grants to protect Chesapeake Bay Timestamps Cold open | 0:00 Host introduction and episode summary | 0:34 Industry warns of biosolids crisis in Maine | 1:18 Chesapeake Bay funding from EPA | 6:00 Cybersecurity round up for water systems | 7:02 Housekeeping | 11:08      About the Podcast    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WW, WWD and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.    Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

On April 10, 2024, the EPA announced the final National Primary Drinking Water Regulation (NPDWR) for six PFAS contaminants. This is the first brand new Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) set by the EPA since arsenic was updated in 2001. In this episode, four industry professionals; Miles Menyhert,  liquid phase applications engineer at Jacobi Carbons; Ken Sansone, partner at SL Environmental; Kyle Thompson, national PFAS lead at Carollo Engineers and; Tom Muilenberg, chemical engineer and the global product manager at De Nora, discuss what this means for the water industry.   Show Notes:    EPA designates PFOA and PFOS as hazardous substances under CERCLA EPA announces final PFAS Maximum Contaminant Levels (MCL) Water industry responds to EPA's PFAS MCL ruling Water Coalition Against PFAS applauds House introduction for PFAS liability Timestamps:    Episode summary | 0:53 EPA adds PFAS chemicals to CERCLA | 4:44 View from a chemical engineer | 7:08 The value of source identification | 14:00 Vew from a lawyer holding polluters accountable | 16:37 Follow the money and the litigation | 22:05 View from a PFAS practice leader | 25:07 Supply and demand for PFAS treatment | 36:51 View from a product manager for PFAS treatment | 42:14 Human health impacts | 51:51 Housekeeping | 52:34 About the Podcast    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.    Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts discuss how the Water Coalition Against PFAS testified on Capitol Hill during a PFAS hearing; share news about California's Department of Water Resources completing a groundwater mapping project; and the White House’s plans to work with state administrations to address cyber risk in the water industry. Finally, this week's interview is with Andrew Ginter, vice president of industrial security for Waterfall Security Solutions. Ginter talks about cybersecurity risk and what utilities need to think about when upgrading systems to smart technology.  Show Notes:    Waterfall Security 2024 Threat Report  Engineering-grade OT Security — A Manager’s Guide  Cybersecurity for small water systems by Andrew Ginter   Water coalition testifies before Congress on importance of PFAS exemption for utility comapnies Timestamps:   Host introductions | 1:05 Episode summary | 1:19 Water Coalition Against PFAS testifies in D.C. California Department of Water Resources groundwater mapping project | 4:04 EPA invites governors to meeting about cybersecurity for water systems | 5:11 Interview begins | 6:28 WaterFall Securities Threat Report | 7:16 Cyberattacks in the water industry | 10:11 What is different now? | 11:32 What exactly is ransomware? | 15:50 Cybersecurity always carries a cost | 20:05 What poses the greatest threat to security? | 21:16 What is too risky to conduct in the cloud? | 26:13 Finding the balance between smart systems and security | 34:49 Housekeeping | 41:41 Resources:  Subscribe to Stormwater Solutions  Subscribe to Wastewater Digest Subscribe to WaterWorld    About the Podcast    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.    Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing talkingunderwater@endeavorb2b.com  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.