
Day Two DevOps
Join hosts Ned Bellavance and Kyler Middleton as they dive deep into the challenges of DevOps from the perspective of seasoned practitioners. You'll hear from expert guests—technical leaders, trainers, and consultants with years of hands-on experience—discussing the nuances of DevOps. From AWS to Azure, networking to security, automation to modern cloud environments, each weekly episode equips you with the insights to confidently address tech and business challenges such as resilience, cost management, and performance. Whether you want to hone your skills today or prepare for what’s coming next, Day Two DevOps cuts through the vendor fog to guide you through a shifting IT landscape.
Latest episodes

Jun 4, 2025 • 39min
D2DO274: Firefly’s State of IaC Report for 2025, aka ClickOps Is a Disgrace (Sponsored)
Firefly is a cloud infrastructure automation platform that helps cloud teams, DevOps, SRE, platform engineering, DevSecOps, and other groups manage their entire cloud as code. Firefly helps to manage cloud complexity and produce consistent and efficient cloud platforms with code. To help Firefly better understand their customers and industry trends around Infrastructure as Code (IaC),... Read more »

May 28, 2025 • 40min
D2DO273: Azure VNets Don’t Exist
Cloud networks aren’t like traditional data center networks, so applying a traditional network design to the cloud probably isn’t the best idea. On today’s Day Two Cloud, guest Aidan Finn guides us through significant differences between Microsoft Azure networking and on-prem data center networks. For instance, subnets don’t segment hosts, network security groups do; every... Read more »

May 14, 2025 • 40min
D2DO272: The Physics of DevOps
How do you measure developer performance and productivity? On today’s Day Two DevOps, we look at different methods with guest Laura Tacho, the CTO at DX. We explore industry benchmarks such as the DORA report, SPACE, and DevEx. Laura also introduces us to Core 4, a project she’s been working on that provides a new... Read more »

Apr 30, 2025 • 39min
D2DO271: Public Vs. Private Cloud In 2025
The shine has been coming off public cloud for awhile. Cloud costs remain high, complexity is growing, and public cloud interoperability is difficult. And while there’s talk about moving back to private cloud, that migration presents its own costs and complexities. To help us navigate the challenge that is cloud in 2025, we welcome Mark... Read more »

Apr 22, 2025 • 40min
D2DO270: Spacelift Is Your Infrastructure Glue (Sponsored)
Working with multiple Infrastructure as Code (IAC) tools can be painful. Spacelift provides a platform that operates on top of disparate IaC tools, including Ansible, Kubernetes, Pulumi, Terraform, and OpenTofu. Spacelift helps build the automation with and between these tools, creating graphs of graphs that make your dependencies just work. On today’s show, we talk... Read more »

Apr 16, 2025 • 40min
D2DO269: Intergalactic Dataspeak and Making Data Actionable
Data and what you do with it is the topic of today’s show with guest Dominic Chapman, the Head of Product at Axiom. Dominic’s career focus is on data, how to store and how to operationalize all the data that different technology stacks create. We talk with Dominic about how the data does not lie,... Read more »

Apr 2, 2025 • 40min
D2DO268: Solving Big Problems By Solving Small Problems
“You build a shop that solves big problems by solving small problems” is advice given by today’s guest, Merritt Baer. Merritt is currently a CISO at Reco, and has deep security experience in both government and private sectors. She chats with Day Two DevOps podcast hosts Ned Bellavance and Kyler Middleton to discuss the current... Read more »

Mar 19, 2025 • 41min
D2DO267: Get Excited About Riding the AI Infrastructure Wave
The AI buildout is driving an infrastructure boom. On today’s show, we talk with Kendall Miller, an independent consultant in the DevOps and cloud-native space, about the boom’s potential impacts on DevOps. For instance, the rise of AI workloads will increase the amount of infrastructure to be supported. At the same time, AI tools are... Read more »

Mar 5, 2025 • 43min
D2DO266: How AI Affects the Developer Experience
Let’s talk about how AI affects the developer experience, particularly for open source tools such as Terraform. We’re joined by guests Welly Siauw and Tyler Lynch to examine a project that leverages AI to automate the generation of documentation and examples for AWS Terraform providers. We delve into the iterative development process with AI, the... Read more »

Feb 19, 2025 • 40min
D2DO265: How Do We Measure Developer Experience?
Kristen Foster-Marks, Head of Developer Experience at Depot, explores the complexities of measuring Developer Experience (DevEx). She delves into the controversial idea of 'ghost engineering,' questioning how many engineers truly engage in their work. Kristen emphasizes the need for critical thinking to evaluate developer productivity and discusses the significance of both qualitative and quantitative metrics for DevEx. With a light-hearted touch, she shares insights on how effective communication and collaboration can significantly enhance the developer environment.