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Join hosts Ned Bellavance and Kyler Middleton as they dive deep into the challenges of DevOps from the perspective of seasoned practitioners. You'll hear from expert guests—technical leaders, trainers, and consultants with years of hands-on experience—discussing the nuances of DevOps. From AWS to Azure, networking to security, automation to modern cloud environments, each weekly episode equips you with the insights to confidently address tech and business challenges such as resilience, cost management, and performance. Whether you want to hone your skills today or prepare for what’s coming next, Day Two DevOps cuts through the vendor fog to guide you through a shifting IT landscape.
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Sep 24, 2025 • 34min
D2DO283: Lessons Learned When a Startup Doesn’t Take Wing
In this discussion with Elad Ben-Israel, founder of Wing Cloud and creator of WingLang, we dive into his journey of building a startup and the challenges faced. Elad shares insights on the importance of aligning a product with actual business needs and the pitfalls of timing and target market mismatch. He reflects on how AI trends skewed focus during development and debates the integration of application and infrastructure. The talk also explores the future of WingLang and the lessons he learned about scaling automation and managing cloud resources effectively.

Sep 10, 2025 • 30min
D2DO282: Simplifying Complex Kubernetes Deployments With kro
Kubernetes is flexible and customizable, but it can also be notoriously complex and difficult to deploy to. On today’s Day Two DevOps we learn about kro (Kube Resource Operator), an open-source tool that helps simplify complex application deployments. Our guest is Islam Mahgoub, a Solutions Architect at AWS focused on building kro. We talk about... Read more »

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Sep 3, 2025 • 45min
D2DO281: Faddom: Providing a Unified Source of Truth for Security and IT Operations (Sponsored)
Itamar Rotem, CPO of Faddom, and Ofer Regev, CTO, dive into the innovative world of application dependency mapping for hybrid IT. They discuss the importance of real-time visibility across servers and data flows, emphasizing how Faddom's agentless approach simplifies data collection. The duo explains how their technology enhances migrations and change management while ensuring security with features like anomaly detection. Key insights include a push for contextual maps and a commitment to minimizing guesswork in IT operations.

Aug 27, 2025 • 35min
D2DO280: Architect for Your AI Success With F5 and MinIO (Sponsored)
In the changing landscape of AI data infrastructure, F5 and MinIO are partnering on a solution that brings together the best of each company. This solution bookends the AI stack—it uses F5 for reliable, secure, and observable data delivery and MinIO’s AIStor for storage of all data types. The goal is to help organizations be... Read more »

Aug 13, 2025 • 41min
D2DO279: Herding the Agentic Geese
Ian Douglas, a seasoned engineer at Block with 30 years in tech, and Rizel Scarlett, a developer advocate and tech lead, discuss their innovative AI agent, Goose. They explore concepts like 'vibe coding,' balancing AI assistance with developer responsibility to enhance collaboration. Their conversation covers the role of AI in DevOps for monitoring workflows and ensuring accountability. They also highlight the significance of Goose Recipes for effective project management and teamwork, revolutionizing how developers interact with AI tools.

Jul 30, 2025 • 40min
D2DO278: The Future of HashiCorp Inside IBM
On today’s show, we talk to Armon Dadgar, co-founder and CTO of HashiCorp regarding HashiCorp’s future within IBM. We start with a quick recap of IBM’s acquisition of HashiCorp and then move on to the challenges of bringing a small, young tech company into a huge corporation that makes lots of its revenue on legacy... Read more »

Jul 16, 2025 • 35min
D2DO277: AI Security Submissions at Curl Dev
Daniel Stenberg, creator of the widely-used open source tool curl, shares the journey of curl from a simple script to a critical data transfer solution. He discusses the integration of AI in security reporting, emphasizing its potential benefits and challenges. Daniel highlights the double-edged sword of AI-generated bug reports, stressing the need for human oversight to ensure quality and accuracy. The nuances of AI's role in navigating security issues reveal its limitations, likening it to a junior assistant requiring expert guidance.

Jun 25, 2025 • 34min
D2DO276: MCP: Capable, Insecure, and On Your Network Today
MCP, or Model Context Protocol, is an open-source project originally created by Anthropic. MCP is designed to let AI agents to connect to data repositories, applications, business and developer tools, and other agents to execute tasks and carry out instructions. Day Two DevOps explores the capabilities and pitfalls of MCP, how the protocol works, and... Read more »

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Jun 11, 2025 • 37min
D2DO275: WebAssembly – The Next Big Thing?
Michael Levan, a consultant and WebAssembly trainer, breaks down the fascinating world of WASM. He explains its origins and how various programming languages compile to bytecode. Delving into server-side use, he discusses porting applications and the importance of security and performance. Levan highlights the potential of AI integration and anticipates a significant shift towards broader server-side adoption by 2028. His insights reveal how consulting provides a unique look at the intersection of emerging tech and real-world practices.

Jun 4, 2025 • 39min
D2DO274: Firefly’s State of IaC Report for 2025, aka ClickOps Is a Disgrace (Sponsored)
Firefly is a cloud infrastructure automation platform that helps cloud teams, DevOps, SRE, platform engineering, DevSecOps, and other groups manage their entire cloud as code. Firefly helps to manage cloud complexity and produce consistent and efficient cloud platforms with code. To help Firefly better understand their customers and industry trends around Infrastructure as Code (IaC),... Read more »