

Tangents by Out of Architecture
Out of Architecture
Welcome to Tangents by Out of Architecture, hosted by Silvia Lee. We’re highlighting some of our favorite stories from the amazing people we’ve met along our journey. We will hear how they created a unique career path for themselves from the variety of skills and talents they developed in and out of architecture.
Out of Architecture is a career consulting firm started by two Harvard-educated professionals interested in exploring the value of their skills both in and out of the architectural profession. We’re here to help you maximize all of the expertise you have honed as a designer to get you a role that fulfills and challenges you. We have the knowledge, experience, and connections to help you put your best self into the market–and reap the benefits.
Out of Architecture is a career consulting firm started by two Harvard-educated professionals interested in exploring the value of their skills both in and out of the architectural profession. We’re here to help you maximize all of the expertise you have honed as a designer to get you a role that fulfills and challenges you. We have the knowledge, experience, and connections to help you put your best self into the market–and reap the benefits.
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May 16, 2023 • 48min
Embracing Change and Creating Opportunity with SOM's Iben Falconer
On this episode of Tangents, Iben Falconer, Global Marketing & Business Development Leader and Senior Associate Principal @ SOM shares advice from her own experiences changing roles throughout her career and how not being afraid of change has opened up new opportunities for her.Listen to the end to hear from a part of the OOA team and community, Noura Alhariri! Highlights: Curious, Driven, EmpatheticNot being afraid to change roles and careersFinding purpose in your roleMake a list of what you want in your careerBusiness Development as everything that brings in workStrategy and Storytelling
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May 2, 2023 • 50min
Understanding What You’re All About with TestFit and Women Architects Collective's Joann Lui
On this episode of Tangents, Joann Lui, Content Marketing Manager at TestFit and the founder of Women Architects Collective shares her experiences transitioning her interests and passions into a unplanned career switch and how personal branding helped create opportunities and time for reflection. Listen to the end to hear from a part of the OOA team and community, Cristy Fedelai! Highlights: Introvert, Relatable, Ambitious Transitioning through side hustlesShare with others your accomplishmentsBuilding communities to bring people togetherFounding Women Architects CollectiveTrusting your gut and transitioningLetting go of your identityPersonal branding as personal developmentBalancing your energy as an introvertJuggling many things and getting them doneStay ready for opportunityArchitects combine creativity and logicWhat success is as you grow
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Apr 4, 2023 • 29min
Disrupting the Building Industry with Layer's Zach Soflin
On this episode of Tangents, Zach Soflin, CEO at Layer shares his journey which began with creating a solution as an architect for one of his project’s to sharing that solution with the rest of the AEC industry as CEO of a tech startup. Highlights:Tinkerer, Designer, DivergentHow the solution to a project led to running a companyStepping away from a traditional path in architectureThe brave steps that an Architecture Firm tookProgression of a CEO’s day to dayRely on data and trusting your gutBeing a CEO is actually less stressful than being an architectAdvice for your younger selfFind focus and your communityChange only comes from disrupting the status quo
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Mar 21, 2023 • 39min
Creating Space for Inclusion & Belonging with Anti-Racist Hot Dog's Wandile Mthiyane
On this episode of Tangents, Wandile Mthiyane, Founder & CEO of Anti-Racist Hot Dog & CEO of Ubuntu Design Group shares his experiences using architecture as a way to build spaces and places of belonging for folks within the workplace and the community.Highlights:Resilient, Faith, OptimisticArchitecture as a Vehicle for Dignified HousingHome as an Economic SpaceGoing Back To Your Roots to Drive Your Passions ForwardAdvice for When You’re In The Middle of Your ProcessFinding Different MentorsFrom Houses to Hot DogsAnti-Racism in the Workplace
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Mar 7, 2023 • 47min
Creating Authenticity and Happiness in Your Career with Disrupt Symposium's Sara Kolata
On this episode of Tangents, Sara Kolata, Founder of Disrupt Symposium, shares her experiences on how she took the challenges she experienced as a business owner to create a life that truly aligns with her strengths and passions.Highlights:Adventurous, Curious, DaringNot fitting in as expectedTurning failures into opportunities for growthThe point at which you decide to do somethingGetting closer to who you areCombining your passion with architectureCreating a life you want to liveWhat’s coming up soon with Disrupt
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Feb 21, 2023 • 37min
Bringing Studio Pedagogy into K-12 Education with NuVu's Saba Ghole
On this episode of Tangents, Saba Ghole, Co-Founder & Chief Creative Director at NuVu shares her experiences on how she brings the studio model of learning that we are familiar from our architectural studies and applies it to k-12 learning.Highlights:Creative, Optimist, ListenerThe architecture studio as a model for education and learningCreating a space for critique, feedback and a process oriented approach in educationThe periods of growth and reflection as an entrepreneur Learning how to scale an atypical educational modelThe benefits of using your skills and talents in a different contextHolding onto a spirit for optimism Architects as agile, open-minded and Problem solving minded
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Feb 7, 2023 • 43min
Connecting A Community Of Creatives with If Not Now, Then When's Rachael Hymas
On this episode of Tangents, Rachael Hymas, Founder of If Not Now, Then When (INNTW) shares her experiences stemming from her background in architecture that led her to meet so many amazing people along the way. Hear Rachael speak honestly about finding your path, even as it’s evolving as you grow. Highlights:The journey of a multi-disciplinary creative that gets bored easilyHelping individuals and companies get down to who they areHow networking and mentors can change the direction of your careerCreating INNTW to provide access for those looking to move into creative rolesBeing thankful for all opportunitiesMoving out of architecture and being open that you have not failedThe importance of building relationships with peopleUsing fear and self doubt to guide you and growBeing proud of pushing yourself through challengesAsk honest questions that you care about when meeting peopleDefining success for yourselfArchitecture is the backbone for numerous opportunities if you want it to be
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Jan 24, 2023 • 33min
Having Confidence in Your Skills and Experiences with Adidas's Jake Rudin
On this episode of Tangents, Jake Rudin, Senior Manager Digital Technologies at Adidas shares his experiences and advice on how to translate your architectural experience to your future career path. Highlights:Designer, Educator, MakerFollowing A Passion for ArchitectureNot Being Limited by Job DescriptionsCommunicating Your Abilities in Resumes and InterviewsConfidence is KeyTreat Your Career Like a Design ProblemDemand for Out of Architecture AdviceThe Power of Visual RepresentationGet Started with Out of ArchitectureDefining An Architect and Redefining Yourself
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Jan 10, 2023 • 39min
Exploring the Intersection Between Architecture, Technology & Strategy with Google's Chrisoula Kapelonis
On this episode of Tangents, Chrisoula Kapelonis, Design Strategist at Google shares her experiences asking questions about what the intersection between architecture and technology is and can be. Highlights:Architect, Technologist, StrategistThe Intersection of Architecture & TechnologyDeciding to Pursue Architecture or NotHow Explorations Can Guide Your Path and Moving Beyond AcademiaChoosing to Be UncomfortableBuilding A Home As A TechnologistProgramming Space Independent of the Physical Building4D Simulations of Space With TimeThe Greatest Impact With Technology During Post OccupancyWhat Does Success Look LikeWorking with Translations Between MediumsArchitects Are Those That Question Spaces That People Dwell InEvolving Questions on the Home and Workplace
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Dec 27, 2022 • 45min
Making Your Own Path In Architecture with Matter's Erin Pellegrino
On this episode of Tangents, Erin Pellegrino, Principal at Matter, and Co-Founder of Out of Architecture, shares her experiences creating her own path for herself in Architecture. Hear how never taking no for an answer helped shape her career as an educator, a business owner, and creating Out of Architecture where she helps guide others on their career journeys. Highlights:Ambitious, Curious, Striving to be an OptimistEri Berry Woman Drink RecipeFalling in Love with the Folk Art MuseumDoing It All: From Teaching, To Practicing and MoreProfessional Practice: Expectations Vs. RealityCreating Out of ArchitectureOvercoming Feelings of InadequacyWhat Success Feels LikeArchitecture is an Inherently Optimistic ActAdvice for Starting Your Own PracticeGet Comfortable Asking for What You WantFiguring Out How To Get Things DoneThen Challenging How Things Are DoneBuilding A Wave of Change
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