
The Legal Ops Podcast
The Legal Ops Podcast is about all things legal operations, legal business and legal technology. Every episode covers a new aspect of operations, transformation, or tech implementation, and we never stray far from human change management. Worried that legal is changing too fast, and want to be part of the conversation? This is the podcast for you. Hosted by Daryl Osuch, and created by Alex Rosenrauch and Elliot Leibu.
Latest episodes

Aug 8, 2022 • 27min
The Pulse: money pouring into legal tech, switching legal tech vendors, Google's move into e-signature and a recent big capital raise
Alex and Elliot chat about: * Why are investors pouring money into legal technology? * Is it getting easier to switch legal tech vendors? * Google's move into e-signature and what it means for other markets * AirSlate's recent $51.5m capital raise * Why Alex isn't wearing his Apple Watch any more (most of the time) Thanks to HBR Consulting for sponsoring this episode. Find out more about HBR here: https://www.hbrconsulting.com/ LINKS Money pouring into legal tech: https://www.ft.com/content/b6f0796e-0265-40c6-ad4c-a900cd788c39 Switching legal tech vendors: https://www.law.com/legaltechnews/2022/06/24/legal-professionals-face-cost-time-and-trust-barriers-when-switching-tech-vendors/ Google's move into e-signature: https://www.law.com/legaltechnews/2022/07/12/googles-move-into-e-signature-isnt-likely-about-the-clm-market/

Jul 24, 2022 • 52min
Talking Tech: HBR Consulting with Kevin Clem and Lauren Chung
In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot speak with Kevin Clem and Lauren Chung from HBR Consulting. HBR is one of the world's largest legal operations consulting firms, headquartered in Chicago with operations throughout the USA, Canada and the UK. In addition to consulting on all aspects of legal operations, technology and strategy, HBR conducts an annual law department survey to analyse and understand developments in the legal industry. In the episode we draw on the survey, as well as Kevin and Lauren's extensive experience, to discuss recent trends in the industry and a number of insightful predictions for the future. LINKS Kevin Clem on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinclem Lauren Chung on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenmchung HBR Consulting: https://www.hbrconsulting.com/ Counsel Command: https://www.hbrconsulting.com/what-we-do/software-solutions/counselcommand/ Counsel Guide: https://www.hbrconsulting.com/what-we-do/software-solutions/counselguide/

Jul 7, 2022 • 56min
Legal Design with Meera Klemola and Astrid Kohlmeier
Meera Klemola and Astrid Kohlmeier are legal design pioneers. They are both teachers, speakers and writers, specialising in the application of design principles to legal services delivery. Both have consulted on this topic to the world's largest law firms and in-house teams. For this episode we sat down with Meera and Astrid to discuss their book, "The Legal Design Book", which was published in 2021. We covered many topics including: * Why they wrote the book and why now is the right time to publish it * What "legal design" is and how it differs from some other methodologies, such as Lean Six Sigma and Agile * Why "legal design" is about more than visually pleasing documents * The key philosophies and mindsets that underly legal design * How to apply legal design in practice, including case studies * The relationship between legal design and legal operations LINKS The book: https://legaldesign-book.com/ Meera's website: https://www.groundm.com/ Meera on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meera-klemola/ Astrid's website: https://astridkohlmeier.de/ Astrid on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/astridkohlmeier/

Jun 20, 2022 • 20min
The Pulse: lawyers abandoning MS Word, legal tech capital raisings and the M2 MacBook Air
Alex and Elliot chat about: * A recent survey suggesting lawyers are (possibly) moving away from MS Word * Recent capital raisings by Evisort, SirionLabs and Dilitrust * The M2 MacBook Air and what's to like (and not like) about it LINKS Lawyers moving away from MS Word: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2022/05/25/are-some-inhouse-lawyers-falling-out-of-love-with-word/ Evisort: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/evisort-raises-100m-in-funding-led-by-tcv-301545180.html SirionLabs: https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/10/sirionlabs-lands-85m-to-inject-contract-management-with-automation/ Dilitrust: https://www.dilitrust.com/en/actu/dilitrust-continues-to-grow/

Jun 6, 2022 • 54min
Talking Tech: Hyperion legal business advisory with Eyal Iffergan
Alex and Elliot interview Eyal Iffergan, Managing Director, Legal Business Advisory at Hyperion Global Partners. Hyperion provides legal operations consultancy services to legal teams across the world. In this episode, Eyal, Alex and Elliot discuss technology roadmaps and data analytics, including: * What a technology roadmap is, why it's important in both private practice and in-house and how it relates to the team's broader strategy. * How legal operations is helping to drive the legal industry to become a "customer driven market". * What legal teams typically do well (and less well) when creating a technology roadmap. * What we mean by "legal metrics" and whether or not they must be quantifiable. * What is most challenging: collecting, analysing or utilising metrics? * What are the most critical metrics for a legal function to focus on. LINKS Hyperion Global Partners: https://www.hyperiongp.com/ Hyperion Research: https://insights.hgpresearch.com/

May 23, 2022 • 1h 10min
CLOC Global Institute 2022
The Global Institute is the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium's flagship conference, which is held annually in Las Vegas, USA. The event was most recently held in May 2022 and attracted around 2,500 attendees from the legal operations ecosystem globally. In this episode we transport you to the conference via the many recordings we made at the event. We interviewed speakers, fellow attendees, legal tech vendors and others. We also recorded our thoughts and reflections on many of the sessions, immediately after we came out of them. If you couldn't attend the conference and you'd like to know what it's like, or you did attend and you want to relive it, this is the episode for you. Our thanks to HBR Consulting for sponsoring this episode and for making it possible. Find out more about HBR here: https://www.hbrconsulting.com/

May 10, 2022 • 10min
The Pulse: the road to CLOC 2022, legal tech capital raisings and ServiceNow expands its reach into legal
Alex and Elliot chat about: * The (literal) road to the 2022 CLOC Global Institute * Legal tech capital raisings by LinkSquares, Filevine and Athennian * ServiceNow expanding further into the legal market This episode would not be possible without the support of HBR Consulting. If you're attending CGI2022, make sure to visit their booth. You can find more information about them here: https://www.hbrconsulting.com/ LINKS LinkSquares: https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/04/linksquares-benefits-from-the-legal-tech-boom-with-a-fresh-100m/ Filevine: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/filevine-raises-108m-series-d-for-legal-work-platform-serving-law-firms-and-corporate-counsel-teams-301525006.html Athennian: https://legaltechnology.com/2022/03/31/athennian-raises-33-million-in-series-b-funding/ ServiceNow: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2022/03/23/servicenow-pushes-deeper-into-legal-with-new-expansion/

Apr 26, 2022 • 1h 8min
Productivity tips for legal professionals
Want the best productivity tips from your peers in the legal industry? This is the episode for you! Recently we asked our followers on LinkedIn to post their best productivity tips. This comprises the philosophies, tools and other awesome stuff that they just can't live without. And we got a great response! In this episode Alex and Elliot go through all the tips, adding their analysis and views. They also discuss the core elements of productivity, how to approach each element and what works (and doesn't) for them. LINKS Original LinkedIn post: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6914726124598046720 The 4 Ds: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryancollinseurope/2018/06/14/effective-time-management/?sh=4d5ba51d1938

Apr 12, 2022 • 33min
Talking Tech: Hyperion market research with Catherine Moynihan
In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot interview Catherine Moynihan, Senior Director, Strategic Intelligence and Advisory at Hyperion Global Partners. Hyperion provides legal operations consultancy services to legal teams across the world. In addition, their core business historically was the development of in-depth and high-quality research reports on all aspects of the legal tech market. In this episode we focus on those research reports, covering: * What it is about the legal tech market that makes the reports valuable. * What the reports cover, in what detail and how frequently they are updated. * How Hyperion's customers use the reports both to understand the technology marketplace and to formulate and clarify their own requirements. * How Hyperion's reports differ from others in the market. * What trends Hyperion has seen in legal tech and what developments are expected in the future. LINKS Check out Hyperion Global Partners: https://www.hyperiongp.com/ Catherine Moynihan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinejmoynihan/

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Mar 23, 2022 • 25min
The Pulse: focus mode, contracts as APIs, automated time-based billing, predicting litigation outcomes and KYC for law firms
Alex and Elliot chat about: * How Alex uses the iOS focus mode to control notifications * A bunch of legal tech capital raisings... * Time by Ping and Zero Systems: automated time-based billing * Common Paper: contracts as APIs * Ex Parte: predicting litigation outcomes * Thirdfort: AML / KYC compliance for law firms LINKS Time by Ping: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2022/03/01/time-by-pings-ryan-alshak-on-the-36-5m-series-b-funding/ Zero Systems: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2022/03/01/and-now-zero-bags-12m-in-funding/ Common Paper: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2022/03/01/common-paper-the-contracts-as-apis-startup-bags-4-5m-seed-funding/ Ex Parte: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2022/03/01/moneyball-for-law-prediction-startup-ex-parte-bags-7-5m/ Thirdfort: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2022/03/08/thirdfort-bags-19-7m-to-help-lawyers-beat-money-laundering/
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