So Very Wrong About Games

This episode enters the Fire Swamp, the reputed lair of the R.O.U.S.--the Rodents of Unusual Size. Mark doesn't think they exist. We go in-depth into Thunderstone Quest, a long-serving deckbuilder that is a loyal as a farm boy. Walker announces that take-that cards killed his father, and they should prepare to die. I guess Andre the Giant shows up...? Games Played Last Week:-Gaslands 3m46s (Glenn Ford & Mike Hutchinson, Osprey Publishing, 2017)-San Juan 2nd ed. 5m27s (Andreas Seyfarth, alea, 2014)-13 Days: The Cuban Missile Crisis 6m39s (Asger Harding Granerud & Daniel Skjold Pedersen, Jolly Roger Games, 2016)-EXCEED Fighting System 9m01s (D. Brad Talton, Level 99 Games, 2016)-Duhr: The Lesser Houses 10m11s (Jim Felli, Devious Weasel, 2018)-Rum & Bones: Second Tide 14m03s (Michael Shinall, CMON, 2017)-Guards of Atlantis 14m53s (Artyom Nichipurov, Wolff Designa, 2017)-Scoville 15m57s (Ed Marriott, Tasty Minstrel, 2014)News (and why it doesn't matter) -Eclipse 1st edition gets eclipsed by 2nd ed. 17m43s-Overturn KS gets overturned by KS 21m36s-Vital Lacerda's vital work continues 24m36s-Knizia lays tiles in the Blue Lagoon 25m01s-Walker explains Wacky Races 25m44s-Asmodee being transferred from one Paris equity firm to another 27m27s Feature Game: Thunderstone Quest 28m40s (Mike Elliott, Bryan Reese & Mark Wootton, AEG, 2018)Topic: The Romance is Over: Mechanisms We're Tired Of 1h00m46sAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we stumble on the terrible, horrifying fact that there are other hobbies than boardgames, and we take pity on those poor lamented souls who are enslaved in their thrall. Just what is scrapbooking, anyway? Walker has a theory, but no one is really sure. We should thus feel blessed that we chosen few enjoy the hobby that we do, and so we discuss ways to try to be decent while doing so. Games Played Last Week:-Clans of Caledonia 1m59s (Juma Al-Joujou, Karma Games, 2017)-Starship Samurai 4m04s (Isaac Vega, Plaid Hat Games, 2018)-Neuroshima Hex! 8m45s (Michal Oracz, Portal Games, 2006)-Hellapagos 9m50s (Laurence & Philippe Gamelin, Gigamic, 2017)-Azul 11m46s (Michael Kiesling, Plan B Games, 2017)-Fog of Love 14m33s (Jacob Jaskov, Hush Hush Projects, 2017)-When I Dream 18m13s (Chris Darsaklis, Drawlab Entertainment, 2016)-Goa 20m23s (Rudiger Dorn, Hans im Gluck, 2004)News (and why it doesn't matter) -Quartermaster General gets downright chilly 22m16s-The first ever Cthulhu game, ever (Walker's excited) 24m05s-Kwanchai Moriya Targets The Game 26m46s-Terraforming Mars metastasizes further (Mark's excited) 28m31s-Race races further into the galaxy 29m02s-Catan isn't history thanks to Catan Histories 30m13sFeature Game: Street Masters 31m13s (Brady & Adam Sadler, Blacklist Games, 2018)Topic: Board Game Table Etiquette 54m28sAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A reminder that there is no necessary connection between our feature game and our topic. We would not divest ourselves of SEAL Team Flix, The Only Game that Matters, if for no other reason than we need it on hand so we can talk about it and only it for perpetuity. That, and it's great. Sorry, spoilers! Oh, and Walker was Keyser Söze the entire time.Games Played Last Week:-Cthulhu Wars 1m28s (Sandy Peterson & Lincoln Peterson, Peterson Games, 2015)-Decrypto 5m09s (Thomas Dagenais-Lespérance, Le Scorpion Masqué, 2018)-Gaslands 7m39s (Glenn Ford & Mike Hutchinson, Osprey Publishing, 2017)-Beowulf: The Legend 12m06s (Reiner Knizia, KOSMOS, 2005)-The Voyages of Marco Polo 15m04s (Simone Luciani & Daniele Tascini, Hans im Gluck, 2015)-Dungeon Degenerates: Hand of Doom 18m03s (Sean Äaberg & Eric Radey, Goblinko, 2018)News (and why it doesn't matter) -SVWAG Summer Schedule 20m29s-An editorial from Mark in the context of #MeToo: Making our gaming environment safe and welcoming 21m04sFeature Game: SEAL Team Flix 26m03s (Pete Ruth & Mark Thomas, WizKids, 2018)Topic: When and Why to Get Rid of Games 51m57sAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It is important to stay flexible, and follow the ways of those who practise judo and jiu-jitsu. That is why we choke people as often as we can. Wait, that's not right. Rather, it is important to be supple and adaptable. We had intended to be on time and talking about different things, but sundry unrelated crises have changed both of those plans. We apologize for the delay, but we are confident our new plans are much better. We adapt. We choke. It is a good thing no one reads these, or these comments might be construed as an admission of assault. Games Played Last Week:-LOAD: League of Ancient Defenders 1m43s (Archon Studio, 2016)-The 7th Continent 3m42s (Ludovic Roudy & Bruno Sautter, Serious Poulp Games, 2017)-Heroes of Air, Land, & Sea 6m34s (Scott Almes, Gamelyn Games, 2018)-John Company 11m38s (Cole Wehrle, Sierra Madre, 2017)-Shards of Infinity 12m34s (Gary Arant & Justin Gary, Stone Blade Entertainment, 2018)-Grimslingers: The Northern Territory 15m30s (Stephen Gibson, Greenbrier Games, 2018)News (and why it doesn't matter)-Netrunner Runs No More? 18m00s-Kung Fu Panda...? 18m41s-Monolith: A New Mold for Kickstarter? 19m07s-Summer Hours at SVWAG? 23m02sFeature Game: Food Chain Magnate 23m11s (Jeroen Doumen & Joris Wiersinga, Splotter Spellen, 2015)Topic: Board Game Storage 48m56sAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Topics discussed in the podcast include games played last week like Ra and Deception: Murder in Hong Kong, news updates on board games, featuring Kemet and turn order strategies in games, and a deep dive into the impact of the Devourer unit in the Tacity expansion for Kemet.

You can have too much of a good thing, which is why Mark always tries to interrupt Walker before he can finish a single sentence. Of course, "too much" is a highly subjective idea, whether applied to game length or pie. This week Keyflower is discussed, which is not too long but can feel too short--except if it were not too short it would be too long. Clear enough. Games Played Last Week:-Star Wars: Imperial Assault 3m25s (Justin Kemppainen, Corey Konieczka, & Jonathan Ying, Fantasy Flight, 2014)-Lords of Vegas 5m31s (James Ernest & Mike Silenker, Mayfair, 2010)-Sagrada 6m41s (Adrian Adamescu & Daryl Andrews, Floodgate Games, 2017)-Thunderbolt Apache Leader 8m12s (Dan Verssen, DVG, 2012)-Ginkgopolis 9m57s (Xavier Georges, Pearl Games, 2012)-Ora et Labora 11m46s (Uwe Rosenberg, Lookout Games, 2011)-Dungeon Alliance 15m11s (Andrew Parks, Quixotic Games, 2018)-Spheres of Influence 20m33s (Josh Lamont, Little Nuke Games, 2016)News (and why it doesn't matter)-Jetpack Joyride 24m45s-Spring Meadow 25m22s-Contest Results! 25m55s-Mark on The Long View (again) 26m36sFeature Game: Keyflower 27m57s (Sebastian Bleasdale & Richard Breese, R&D Games, 2012)Topic: Games that Are Too Long 51m45sAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The hosts explore culinary rating systems, discuss games like Quantum, Lords of Hellas, and Too Many Bones, and delve into Hyperborean bag-building strategy. They debate the practicality of board game rating systems, humorously comparing games to pies, and contemplate introducing a pie ranking system. Innovative ideas for podcast ranking and chocolate pie ratings wrap up the entertaining and informative episode.

Walker encourages you to tell friends about So Very Wrong About Games, despite his not listening to the podcast. Mark has recommended it to him, but apparently Walker's contempt for his co-host's opinions is not limited to games, but extends also to the podcast they produce together about games. One assumes Walker also does not read the episode descriptions, which is truly risky, and might create an incentive to make them devoted to discussing his manifold character flaws. Games Played Last Week:-Forbidden Stars 2m51s (Samuel Bailey, James Kniffen, & Corey Konieczka, Fantasy Flight, 2015)-Dice Hockey 4m17s (Artyom Nichipurov, Unpublished Wolff Designa prototype)-Ortus Regni 5m46s (Jon Sudbury, Jon Sudbury Games, 2014)-Xia: Legends of a Drift System 7m00s (Cody Miller, Far Off Games, 2014)-Skull 9m27s (Hervé Marly, Asmodee, 2011)-Cockroach Poker 9m27s (Jacques Zeimet, Dre Magier Spiele, 2004)-Escape: The Curse of the Temple 14m24s (Kristian Amundsen Østby, Queen Games, 2012)-878: Vikings – Invasions of England 15m16s (Beau Beckett, Dave Kimmel, & Jeph Stahl, Academy Games, 2017)News (and why it doesn't matter)-Ortus Regni back...ish 17m19s-Tokyo Game Market 19m18s-Nostalgic Splat Attack 19m38s-Knizia auctions Lost Cities 20m13sFeature Game: Preview of Crisis at Steamfall 22m36s (Tom Stasiak, Beautiful Disaster Games, 2018)Topic: Interview with Chris Cieslik of Asmadi Games 40m16sAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mark tries to come to terms with his outright hypocrisy, largely on the basis that he feels it's acceptable for him but not for everyone else. Walker yearns for glory, but learns to his disappointment that glory is not legal tender and cannot be exchanged for goods or services. Lords of Hellas offer such piercing insights into the soul, "self-knowledge" being one of its 43 victory conditions. Also, SVWAG is giving away stuff.Massive Darkness Giveaway: 1m33sGames Played Last Week:-Spirit Island 3m05s (Eric Reuss, Greater Than Games, 2017)-John Company 4m21s (Cole Wehrle, Sierra Madre Games, 2017)-Altiplano 5m57s (Reiner Stockhausen, dlp Games, 2017)-Fairy Tale 9m14s (Satoshi Nakamura, Z-Man Games, 2004)News (and why it doesn't matter)-Asmodee for sale? Maybe? Maybe not? 10m42s-Forbidden City Forbidden 11m43s-Spiel des Jahres 12m24s-More Kemet. Purple for everything! 13m05s-Jakub Rozalski's art under scrutiny 13m32sFeature Game: Lords of Hellas 17m05s (Adam Kwapinski, Awaken Realms, 2018)Topic: Problematic Expansions 51m14sAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As it happens, games do not spawn ex nihilo, fully armed and armored from Zeus' forehead. I'm certain that's what most of you believed, but it's not true! To confirm this implausible fact, Mark sat down with Eric Reuss, the designer of Spirit Island, to talk about stuff. Walker and Mark also discuss The City of Kings, a game that is a fascinating mixture of euro mechanics, grand adventure, and both excellent and terrible theming.Games Played Last Week:-Kemet 1m25s (Jacques Bariot & Guillaume Montiage, Matagot, 2012)-The Castles of Burgundy 3m22s (Stefan Feld, alea, 2011)-878: Vikings – Invasions of England 4m40s (Beau Beckett, Dave Kimmel, & Jeph Stahl, Academy Games, 2017)-One Deck Dungeon: Forest of Shadows 7m12s (Chris Cieslik, Asmadi Games, 2018)-Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire 8m19s (David Sanders, Games Workshop, 2017)News (and why it doesn't matter)-Acros forced off of Steam 12m55s-X-Wing Second Edition 14m16s-Empyreal: Spells and Steam 18m39sFeature Game: The City of Kings 19m01s (Frank West, The City of Games, 2017)Topic: Interview with Eric Reuss, designer of Spirit Island 41m32sAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices