

JUDAISM DEMYSTIFIED | A Guide for Today's Perplexed: Torah Foundations, Reason, and Tradition
Ben and Benzi | A Geonic-Maimonidean Approach to Torah Through the Ages and Today
Hosted by lifelong friends Ben Koren and Benzi Siouni, Judaism Demystified was founded to explore topics often overlooked in conventional Jewish education. Through long-form conversations with leading religious thinkers, scientists, and historians, the podcast draws from the Geonic-Maimonidean tradition while embracing the intellectual legacy of Rabbi Sacks. Our goal is to reignite a passion for classical Jewish wisdom, returning to foundational ideas and fostering meaningful engagement with Jewish thought.
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Aug 3, 2023 • 1h 1min
Episode 72: Dr. Erica Brown "Kohelet and the Search for Meaning"
In this captivating interview, we embark on a profound exploration of the enigmatic book of Kohelet with esteemed scholar Dr. Erica Brown. With her unique methodology and deep connection to the late, great Rabbi Jonathan Sacks zt"l, Dr. Brown provides fascinating insights into the diverse aspects of this mysterious biblical text. Kohelet, often regarded as a perplexing addition to the biblical canon, challenges readers with its elusive genre. Dr. Erica Brown lays out the possible genres in which Kohelet might be classified. With scholarly acumen, she shares her ultimate perspective on the matter, unraveling the layers of interpretation surrounding this intriguing work. She ventures into the distinctive style and structure of Kohelet, revealing how these literary features offer profound revelations about the book's essence. At the heart of Kohelet lies the relentless pursuit of meaning, a question that permeates every verse. Dr. Erica Brown presents a thought-provoking perspective, characterizing Kohelet's quest as anthropological rather than cosmological. She presents a nuanced understanding of how this approach to seeking meaning sets Kohelet apart, leaving us with profound reflections on our place in the grand scheme of life. Authorship debates often loom over ancient texts, and Kohelet is no exception. Dr. Brown navigates through the scholarly debate on authorship, offering her insightful take on the matter, all while contemplating the significance of this question in our engagement with the text. Within the pages of Kohelet, the word "Hevel" emerges as a pivotal element, deeply intertwined with the book's core themes. Dr. Erica Brown skillfully dissects the complexities of this word's meaning, exploring how it evolves in context as the narrative unfolds. With clarity and wisdom, she articulates why "Hevel" holds the key to unlocking the profound wisdom within the entire book. Prepare to be inspired and enriched by the depth of insights that will undoubtedly reshape your perspective on this timeless biblical masterpiece.

Jul 23, 2023 • 48min
Episode 71: Rabbi Dr. Joshua Berman "The Resonating Trauma of Lamentations"
Rabbi Dr. Joshua Berman, a renowned expert in Biblical studies, returns to the podcast and showcases the profound themes of the Book of Lamentations. In this interview, we explore the historical and theological aspects of this ancient text and shed light on its complex nature. Lamentations, a poetic book in the Hebrew Bible, holds a unique place in the biblical canon. He takes us on a journey through its haunting verses, unveiling its profound significance and multifaceted meaning. Our conversation begins with an exploration of what Lamentations truly is - a poignant collection of laments and elegies mourning the destruction of Jerusalem and the Holy Temple. But who was the intended audience of Lamentations? What was its purpose according to Chazal (the ancient sages) and scholars alike? Rabbi Dr. Berman offers insights into the historical context, shedding light on how this book played a crucial role in preserving the collective memory of a nation shattered by calamity. One of the fascinating aspects of Lamentations lies in the multiplicity of viewpoints expressed within its verses. He helps us make sense of these diverse perspectives, revealing how they contribute to the richness of the text and allow for a deeper exploration of the theological questions that arise from tragedy. Central to our discussion is the question of authorship. Is the narrator of Lamentations none other than the prophet Jeremiah? We examine the evidence and consider the implications of this attribution, gaining a fresh perspective on Jeremiah's role in shaping the theological narrative. The concept of Collective Trauma Theory comes to the fore as we analyze how the trauma of a nation is channeled and expressed through the poetic language of Lamentations. Rabbi Dr. Berman uncovers the collective healing process embedded in the text and how it continues to resonate with readers across the ages. As we conclude our interview, we grapple with the challenge of understanding the unity of Lamentations. Rabbi Dr. Berman offers a compelling departure point for comprehending the systematic fashion in which the book conveys its theology. Through his expertise, we gain a deeper appreciation for the intricate connections between the various parts of the text, harmonizing the sorrow and hope it encapsulates. Tune in to this captivating episode (just in time for Tisha B’Av), as we unravel the layers of Lamentations with Rabbi Dr. Berman and discover the timeless lessons and insights that continue to reverberate in our lives today.

Jul 18, 2023 • 49min
Episode 70: Rabbi Jeremy Wieder "The Modern Orthodox Economic Crisis"
The Modern Orthodox community is currently facing financial and moral challenges posed by materialism. Rabbi Jeremy Wieder explains the impact of lavish practices, the clash between individualism and communal responsibility, and the financial and social pressures of "keeping up with the Joneses." Extravagant Passover programs, opulent celebrations, and exorbitant yeshiva tuition costs have raised concerns about inclusivity and the essence of religious values. The Rabbi provides a comprehensive assessment of the current situation, shedding light on the complexities of striking a balance between material abundance and spiritual focus. This has produced social class systems, contributed to the singles crisis, and led many to retreat from communal affiliation. The consequences of materialism extend beyond financial concerns. Unrealistic expectations, cultural influence, and financial strain can lead individuals to feel compelled to live beyond their means, impacting relationships and overall quality of life. We explore how these pressures affect converts and baalei teshuva, often deterring them from fully embracing the modern Orthodox lifestyle. In search of solutions, Rabbi Jeremy Wieder offers insights into strategies that can help address materialism and promote economic justice. He emphasizes the vital role rabbis play in guiding the community towards a more equitable and compassionate society, rooted in Torah principles. But most importantly, are the very wealthy responsible to set the tone? Empowering the community's youth with financial awareness and preparedness is also a critical aspect of this conversation. By incorporating classes on home economics, accounting, and career guidance into yeshiva curricula, children can learn from a young age about what to expect when raising a family and how to make informed decisions about their financial future and aspirations. Financial burdens cause many to cut corners and pursue careers that lack social utility, while the need for well-compensated, quality educators is an afterthought. The main focus of Rabbi Wieder's presentation is on how to fix the yeshiva tuition problem, which is an unsustainable model that is an unfortunate cause of immense stress and anxiety on families. This is an uncomfortable conversation that we as community members must not shy away from.

Jul 7, 2023 • 60min
Episode 69: Scott Hertzl Cohanpour "A.I. and Religion"
Join us for an enlightening interview with the renowned Information Technology expert Scott Hertzl Cohanpour as we explore the world of Artificial Intelligence (AI). In this thought-provoking episode, we delve into how AI works, its associated risks, and the role of moral teachings in its governance. Can the Ten Commandments guide AI? Don't miss this captivating episode, where Scott shares insights on AI's decision-making mechanisms and how it processes vast amounts of data. We also address ethical concerns and the need for safeguards to ensure responsible usage. Looking ahead, we discuss AI's rapidly evolving role in society and the challenges it brings. Scott provides practical steps for reducing risks while integrating AI into our lives. Join us as we demystify AI and explore Scott’s fascinating approach to shaping a responsible AI-powered future. This introduction was generated by ChatGPT.

Jun 29, 2023 • 36min
Episode 68: Dr. Yoram Hazony "Torah Values in Today's World"
In his book Conservatism: A Rediscovery, Dr. Yoram Hazony discusses how Anglo-American conservatism became a distinctive alternative to divine-right monarchy, Puritan theocracy, and the liberal revolution — and why this idea is as much or more important today than ever before. As an Orthodox Jew, he makes the case that conservatism is a clear Torah value, and over the course of our talk, he provides Biblical support for his thesis. We also discuss why political conservatism is irrelevant without teshuva. Lastly, the idea of "Nationalism" has negative connotations today — it's a loaded term. He dispels the notion that it's a fascist or racist ideology and highlights the major differences between the Nationalism of Ancient Israel and Hitler's Germany (lehavdil). So, in terms of nationhood affected by wokeness and multiculturalism, what is there left to conserve? Tune in to discover Dr. Hazony's fascinating perspective.

Jun 18, 2023 • 1h 10min
Episode 67: Professor Kenneth Seeskin "Messianic Thoughts in an Age of Despair"
The idea of the Messiah is both "Pandora's Box and the Elixir of Life," as Dr. Kenneth Seeskin puts it. Join us as the professor dives into the evolution of the Messianic idea throughout history and presents five distinct approaches of the sages (all of which are deeply rooted in explicit TaNaKh verses) aimed at contending with the dichotomy between the hopeful and dangerous aspects of messianism in Jewish thought. He begins by introducing us to the five categories of understanding the Messiah, from the Torah to the Prophets to the Rabbis. The first approach, which he refers to as "inflation," emphasizes the supernatural and almost impossible nature of the Messianic age. Drawing from fantastical Aggadot, this perspective creates a formidable barrier against false messiahs, wars, and manipulation. The second approach, "Deflation," is the view of Maimonides. This perspective seeks to maximize hope while remaining grounded in the realistic understanding of human limitations and a hope for a utopian society that is built on the pursuit of knowledge but where nature stays the same. Ironically, this model is susceptible to false messianic movements because the required conditions are seemingly within reach. Dr. Seeskin has a unique perspective on the approach of the sages and why they felt the need to downplay rather than eliminate certain notions about the messiah. He shares his personal uneasiness with the reinstitution of animal sacrifice in the Third Temple but acknowledges that any law mentioned in the Torah will not be done away with, whereas we defend that fact that the Temple service would very much be as relevant today as it was in ancient Israel. From Bar Kochba to Jesus to Shabbetai Zevi to Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the demand for the Redeemer is usually met with disappointment, and the repercussions endure. Yet, at the same time, the concept of the Messiah inspires much-needed dreams about a better future that lies ahead. How must we approach this in an age of despair?

Jun 13, 2023 • 1h 19min
Episode 66: Physics to God "God vs. The Multiverse"
Rabbi Dr. Elie Feder and Rabbi Aaron Zimmer, both passionate about the blend of religion and intellect, initially delved into the fine-tuning argument for the existence of God through literature from Smolin and Rees. Unlike the Intelligent Design argument, their focus lay in fundamental physics, not biology. They took their argument public on their former blog, devoted to teaching Talmudic analysis. The argument was refined over around 20 posts, highlighting the conflict between the multiverse concept and evolution. Contrary to popular belief, these Rabbis perceive fine-tuning not as a problem, but a clue towards unraveling the unified theory of everything, a fundamental question in physics. Their fine-tuning stance avoids the "God of the gaps" trap, and instead uses fine-tuning as an integral piece of knowledge in their argument. Following their blog, they spent a decade writing a comprehensive book, but ultimately realized it was too dense for the lay audience. So, they turned to podcasting as a more engaging, accessible medium, aiming to entertain and educate both religious and secular audiences. The podcast builds on their blog's arguments, using simple analogies and featuring animated YouTube videos. For religious people, their work undermines the prestige of multiverse-advocating scientists attacking religion, and promotes the appreciation of divine wisdom in creation. It has received positive feedback for its simplicity, entertainment value, and explaining complex subjects clearly without diluting them. They also present Rambam's scientific view applied to a modern context, reinforcing the importance of understanding and serving God as a Simple Unity. The podcast can be found biweekly on Spotify, Apple, Google, Stitcher, and their website, physicstogod.com. They also encourage active discussions on their Facebook group. (With guest co-host Zev Gotkin)

Jun 8, 2023 • 2h 18min
Episode 65: Dr. Brian Crawford "The Enduring Heresy"
Dr. Crawford shares his experiences visiting Spain and laments the atrocity of the Expulsion and Inquisition while discussing his stance on coercion in religion as a Protestant evangelical Christian. We also learn about his journey in studying Kabbalah and Gnosticism and his feelings about Jewish persecution at the hands of the Catholic Church over the centuries. Theologically speaking, it goes without saying that we disagree with Dr. Crawford about the identity of the Messiah as well as many other things, as we are Orthodox Jews and he is a religious Christian. However, in this conversation, we have found an area where we share profound agreement. We have the same uneasiness and distaste for any movement that tries to hijack our respective religions via replacement theology. As Historian Paul Johnson said in his book "A History of the Jews": “Gnosticism, or the lore of secret knowledge-systems, is an extremely insidious parasitic growth, which attaches itself like a poisonous ivy to the healthy trunk of a major religion. In Christianity, the early church fathers had to fight desperately to prevent it from smothering the faith. It attacked Judaism, too, especially in the diaspora.” This is precisely why we feel this conversation is so important to have, as uncomfortable as it may be for some. First, Dr. Crawford shares with us an overview or mental map of some major theological belief systems. Then, he hones in on Gnosticism (pointing out where it falls out on that scale), presenting its origins and primary sources. He delves into the Gnostic worldview and how it views God and the universe (Theology-Cosmology), as well as how the Gnostics envisioned salvation from the world. How did they determine what was true and false? What were some of the practices of the Gnostics? How did they live their lives? He also gives a riveting analysis of Gnostic interpretation of sacred writings and practices. Next, we explore the striking and disturbing similarities and connections between ancient Gnosticism and Kabbalah and how they both differ from the Judaism of Maimonides and the Andalusian/Geonic tradition. This is the most important focus of the episode. Finally, Dr. Crawford discusses the enduring heresy of Gnosticism and why it is considered so by many Jews and Christians. We hold up the concepts and practices of Gnosticism and Kabbalah side by side — so you can decide for yourself. In the words of Maimonides: “Truth does not become more true by virtue of the fact that the entire world agrees with it, nor less so even if the whole world disagrees with it. [...] Do not consider it proof just because it is written in books, for a liar who will deceive with his tongue will not hesitate to do the same with his pen. [...] You must accept the truth from whatever source it comes." We ask that you really try to focus on the concepts being discussed in this episode and understand that our intention is to restore honor to the Torah, and open your eyes to the cunning forces that have subverted it in plain sight for centuries.

Jun 1, 2023 • 1h 36min
Episode 64: Reb Alex Guttman "Voodoo Judaism"
Reb Alex Guttman explores the relationship between religion and power/control; how many leaders are afraid of losing their influence or congregation if they choose to approach matters rationally instead of the current catering of "feel-good" magical beliefs. Reb Guttman expresses concern over this recent shift in Judaism, which prioritizes instant gratification and superficial rituals at the expense of having a meaningful relationship with God. He argues that a Jew must have a goal to bring about positive change to oneself, community, and society. We address contemporary issues such as the adoption of pagan customs while at the same time closing a blind eye to clear idolatrous prohibitions. Reb Guttman emphasizes the need for a rational approach via the integration of halakha and philosophy while lamenting the lack of leadership today. Gone are the Rav Joseph Soloveitchik's of the world, who understood Torah life as being an intimate marriage between halakha and philosophy. The consequences of favoring pop-mysticism over classical tradition are a big part of Reb Guttman's plea, as he highlights how one can deepen their emotional connection to God without gimmicks or shortcuts. We also touch on the influence and acceptance of Hasidic practices in the yeshiva world and the widespread abandonment of science in many communities. Reb Guttman encourages a bottom-up approach to effect change by returning to Judaism's roots by shedding and rejecting pagan influences before they become accepted as "minhag." He finds hope in the recent emergence of certain traditional communities in Israel, books, journals, social media, and blogs that challenge the status quo.

May 28, 2023 • 1h 58min
Episode 63: Rabbi Matt Schneeweiss "Can God Do the Impossible?"
In this fascinating interview, Rabbi Matt Schneeweiss tackles timeless questions that have ignited debates for centuries: "Can God create a rock He can't lift?" "Can God do anything and everything?" and "Can God do the impossible?" Approaching the question first from the standpoint of logic, and then through the interpretations of prominent medieval commentators (Rambam, Meiri, Saadia Gaon, R' Yosef Albo, and Ramban), Rabbi Schneeweiss explores the implications of these queries for our belief in Hashem. He skillfully navigates the delicate balance between acknowledging God's unlimited power and recognizing the constraints of human logic. The discussion illuminates the complexities of divine power and its implications for our beliefs, showcasing the depth and richness of the theological discourse of our sages of blessed memory.