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Jul 10, 2025 • 32min

Scaling Up: What Turns a Start-Up into a Success?

What does it take to grow a new enterprise? Evan Davis hears about the decisions behind creating a multi million-pound business. Founders share the challenges of shifting from solo entrepreneur to CEO, and navigating the make-or-break moments: when to invest, when to take risks, and when to hold back. Plus, the realities of failure, internal setbacks, and the strategic role of social media in driving growth. Evan is joined by: Charlie Bowes-Lyon, Co-Founder, Wild; Charlotte Figg, Co-Founder, Purdy & Figg; Suneet Sachdeva, Founder & CEO, Bubble CiTea Production team: Producer: Osman Iqbal Editor: Matt Willis Sound: David Crackles Production co-ordinator: Katie Morrison
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Jul 3, 2025 • 34min

Care Homes: How Will They Cope Without Migrant Workers?

Care homes are to be barred from recruiting overseas staff, as part of government plans to cut net migration, but will the sector be able to tempt enough British workers to take their place?Evan Davis asks two providers how they plan to adapt, why it's so hard to recruit and retain local staff, and what the care home sector might look like in the future.Also, if low pay really is one of the biggest obstacles to new hires, what would a fairer, more attractive level be? Evan is joined by:Raina Summerson, group CEO, Agincare; Haris Khan, CEO, Curaa Group; William Laing, founder and executive chairman, LaingBuisson Production team:Producer: Georgiana Tudor Series Producer: Simon Tulett Editor: Matt Willis Sound: Neil Churchill and Jack Graysmark Production co-ordinator: Katie Morrison
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Jun 26, 2025 • 30min

Presentations: How to Avoid 'Death By PowerPoint'

Few things in working life are as familiar or as dreaded as presentations, but done well they can persuade and even inspire. So what are the tricks to getting them right?From nerves to narrative, Evan Davis explores how structure, delivery and storytelling shape the way ideas land, and why clarity and connection matter more than ever.And is there still a role for the much-maligned PowerPoint slide?Evan is joined by:Abi Eniola, practitioner, RADA Business; Rory Sutherland, vice chairman, Ogilvy UK; Simon Gallagher, UK CEO, Euronext.Production team:Producer: Osman Iqbal Series Producer: Simon Tulett Editor: Matt Willis Sound: Neil Churchill and Pat Sissons Production co-ordinator: Katie Morrison
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Jun 19, 2025 • 40min

Cyber Attacks: On The Front Line Of A Hack

Cyber criminals have seriously damaged some household names recently - M&S, Co-op, North Face, Harrods - but what really happens behind the scenes when a business is hacked?Evan Davis speaks to the former head of information security at Royal Mail about the major attack it suffered in 2023 - from the initial alert and the eye-watering ransom demand, to the media leak and the long, slow rebuild.Plus, how should you negotiate with hackers, how sophisticated have they become, and how do they choose their victims?Evan is joined by:Jon Staniforth, former Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) at Royal Mail; Lisa Forte, founder and partner, Red Goat.Production team:Producer: Simon Tulett Editor: Matt Willis Sound: Nathan Chamberlain and James Beard Production co-ordinator: Sophie Hill and Janet Staples
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Jun 12, 2025 • 29min

Pay: What If You Knew What Your Colleagues Earned?

Discussing pay is one of society’s big taboos - it’s just not the done thing to ask other people what they earn. And it can be even more hush-hush in the workplace - we’re not told to keep quiet, but somehow everyone does. And yet, most of us would love to know what our colleagues earn. So would lifting the lid on salaries trigger resentment and frustration, or be a tool for fairness and accountability? Evan Davis explores the pros and cons of pay transparency — from closing gender pay gaps to boosting retention – and speaks to one boss who’s tried a radical approach. Is it the next frontier in corporate accountability, or does the culture of secrecy still serve a purpose? Evan is joined by: Bob Leung, CEO, Grant Tree; Justine Woolf, Director of Consulting, Innecto; Clare Kelliher, Professor of Work and Organisation, Cranfield University School of Management. Production team: Producer: Osman Iqbal Editor: Matt Willis Sound: Neil Churchill and Pete Wise Production co-ordinator: Katie Morrison
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Jun 9, 2025 • 3min

Introducing… The Bottom Line

The definitive business podcast from the BBC. Each week host Evan Davis is joined by company bosses, entrepreneurs and industry experts, who lift the lid on how the world of business really works, and what it’s like to be in charge. From managing AI to managing millennials, from supermarkets to supercharging a new product, the panel tackles the big issues, big challenges, or big questions facing their industry. And they share stories of success and failure along the way, revealing the personalities and human dramas behind some of our best-known brands. The Bottom Line also has a spin-off series – Decisions That Made Me – of one-on-one interviews with entrepreneurs and business leaders about the pivotal moments in their careers. These shorter episodes take a deep dive into the moments of opportunity, risk, or crisis that have defined some of the UK’s best-known business figures. Podcasts are published every Thursday. The Bottom Line is a BBC Long Form Audio Production for BBC Radio 4.
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Jun 5, 2025 • 35min

Made in China: How To Get A Product Manufactured In The Far East

Join Nick Grey, founder of Gtech, Kate Sbuttoni, from The Ginger Jar Lamp Co., and Jonathan Duck of Amtico International as they discuss the complexities of manufacturing in China. They share personal stories about evolving production processes and the impact of tariffs on business. The trio examines the challenges of sourcing materials, building relationships with manufacturers, and the potential shift towards Southeast Asia. Insightful and entertaining, this conversation navigates the delicate balance between cost and quality in today's global market.
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May 8, 2025 • 16min

Decisions That Made Me: Richard Farleigh (former Dragon, entrepreneur)

Richard Farleigh grew up poverty-stricken in outback Australia as one of eleven children. When he was an infant, he was taken into care and spent the majority of his childhood in a foster home. A love of puzzles, a determination to prove himself, and some teachers who believed in his abilities, helped him gain a scholarship to university. From there he became a successful investment fund manager, eventually retiring at 34 to become an entrepreneur, and later an angel investor. The former dragon talks to Evan Davis about his new book Humble Stumbles, and how some of his early entrepreneurial decisions didn’t work out quite as well as he’d hoped. Production team: Producers: Eleanor Harrison-Dengate Editor: Matt Willis Sound: John Scott Production co-ordinator: Katie Morrison Photo credit: Visual Marvels
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May 1, 2025 • 15min

Decisions That Made Me: Erinch Sahan (DEAL, Social Enterprise expert)

The child of immigrant parents to Australia, Erinch was taught to want a stable life. He was having a successful career at Proctor and Gamble, but one day had a realisation that this was not what he wanted to be doing with his life. Now Erinch is a business and enterprise lead at the Doughnut Economics Action Lab, and designs businesses so they follow a social or ecological purpose. The social enterprise expert talks to Evan Davis about how he dealt with discovering his values were not aligning with his career path and what he did next. Production team: Producers: Nick Holland and Simon Tulett Editor: Matt Willis Sound: John Scott Production co-ordinator: Katie Morrison
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Apr 24, 2025 • 14min

Decisions That Made Me: Sophie O’Brien (Pollen Careers, CEO)

After 14 years of having a successful career in media, Sophie found herself unemployed. She thought with her skills and experience finding a new role would be easy, but it was the opposite. After struggling with applications and repeated denials, Sophie decided she wanted to change the process of applying for a job. The employment specialist talks to Evan Davis about how she’s trying to change the way recruitment works with her business Pollen Careers. Production team: Producers: Nick Holland Editor: Matt Willis Sound: John Scott Production co-ordinator: Katie Morrison

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