
Learning Can’t Wait
The Learning Can’t Wait Podcast is your view into how changemakers are driving innovation in the field of education. Each week we interview leaders who are challenging the status quo at a time when it is absolutely necessary to rebuild the system for our students.
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Jun 3, 2025 • 25min
Nic Starr | AI Bingo
In this episode of the "Learning Can't Wait" podcast, host Hayley Spira-Bauer reconnects with her former Teach for America colleague, Nick Starr, now an education customer success manager at Adobe. Starr shares her career journey, emphasizing the importance of risk-taking and adaptability as she moved from teaching and administration into educational technology. She discusses her transition into the corporate EdTech world, guided by mentorship and a strategic approach to career pivots. Starr highlights her personal project, an "AI Bingo" card—a year-long challenge to explore and master various AI tools and concepts, which she gamifies to make learning manageable and engaging. She reflects on the value of combining analog practices with digital innovation, her experiences building AI chatbots and podcasts, and the evolving landscape of AI in education. The conversation closes with Starr's advice to new teachers: to expect the unexpected with optimism, as the teaching journey is transformative for both educators and their students

May 29, 2025 • 28min
Nick Gross | Career Pathways, Discovery, & Future-Ready Education
Nick Gross, originally a musician who signed his first record deal at 17, founded Find Your Grind after realizing the transformative power of self-discovery and pursuing passions. Inspired by a graffiti message and his experiences running a recording studio, Gross launched Find Your Grind to help young people explore diverse, nontraditional career paths through engaging content, real-world experiences, and a curriculum blending self-discovery, career readiness, and 21st-century skills. Today, the platform uses lifestyle assessments and social-emotional learning tools to guide students in defining the life they want to live, emphasizing the importance of the journey over the destination and encouraging youth to start exploring without pressure to have everything figured out

May 27, 2025 • 29min
Dan Meyer | EdTech, Healthy Skepticism, & Technology
Dan Meyer, a math educator and EdTech leader, shares how his unconventional path—from being homeschooled to teaching reluctant algebra students—shaped his mission to make math classrooms more creative, social, and engaging for all students. He critiques the current use of technology and AI in education, arguing that most tools isolate students and fail to foster the kind of connection and collaborative learning that truly matter, and he urges EdTech companies to design products that support, rather than replace, teachers by inviting and developing student thinking. Meyer’s core message to new teachers is to be deeply interested in their students and recognize that teaching is a profoundly human endeavor shaped by broader social forces, making it both challenging and deeply meaningful

May 22, 2025 • 36min
Dacia Toll | Ed Reform, Equity, & AI
Dacia Toll recounts her journey from aspiring civil rights lawyer to founding the Achievement First charter school network, driven by a passion for equity and impact in education. She explains how her experience scaling high-performing schools led to co-founding CourseMojo, an edtech company focused on embedding AI-powered, curriculum-aligned teaching assistants to support differentiated learning and teacher effectiveness, especially amid post-pandemic challenges. Toll also highlights her work with Relay Graduate School of Education, emphasizing the importance of practice-based teacher preparation and advising new educators to embrace both proven teaching practices and thoughtful use of AI tools to maximize their impact.

May 20, 2025 • 39min
Diego Arambula | Education, Transformation, & Design
Diego Arambula, Vice President for Educational Transformation at the Carnegie Foundation, shares how his upbringing in Fresno and his parents’ commitment to community improvement shaped his mission to transform education so that both students and teachers feel engaged, supported, and prepared for real-world challenges. He critiques the outdated architecture of schools—especially the reliance on the Carnegie Unit—and calls for a systemic overhaul rooted in new goals, learning experiences, and signals that move beyond time-based measures. Arambula emphasizes the urgency and possibility of this “punctuated equilibrium” moment in education, advocating for collaborative, research-driven innovation that can scale and sustain meaningful change, ultimately fulfilling the promise of public education for all students.

May 15, 2025 • 36min
Jen Womble | Technology, Education, and Conferences
In the episode, Jen dives into the urgent challenges facing schools-like the national teacher and leadership shortage-and shares her vision for transforming education through community, storytelling, and actionable innovation. She emphasizes the need to change the narrative around teaching, celebrate its impact, and ensure that professional learning translates into real classroom change.
Use these insights to spark conversation about the future of education, the value of educators, and how conferences like FETC are driving meaningful progress.

May 13, 2025 • 36min
Curtis Valentine | Teacher Shortage, Leadership, and Passion
From a young man who grew up with a stutter to founding a movement that's empowered thousands of male educators, Curtis Valentine's story reveals how community can transform both individuals and education.

May 8, 2025 • 26min
Nancy Livingston | Summer Learning, Teacher Development, & Equity
The interview with Nancy Livingston, CEO of the National Summer School Initiative (NSSI), explores how their 5-week summer programs prevent learning loss while simultaneously developing teachers' skills through high-quality curriculum and mentorship from exceptional educators. Livingston emphasizes that summer school programs are cost-effective, scalable interventions that can accelerate student learning while helping teachers improve their instructional practice by providing them with streamlined materials and structured support.

May 6, 2025 • 26min
Dr. Iheoma Iruka | Early Childhood, Curriculum, & Equity
Dr. Iheoma Iruka discusses her work with the National Academies developing a new vision for pre-K curriculum that better serves all children, especially those historically underserved, including Black and Latino children, multilingual learners, children with disabilities, and those living in poverty. The interview highlights the importance of rejecting false dichotomies in early childhood education by integrating play with academics, supporting teachers with proper resources, and creating curriculum that reflects the diversity of children's experiences and backgrounds.

May 1, 2025 • 28min
Nicola Soares | Teacher Shortage, Staffing, & Talent Supply Chain
This podcast episode features a conversation between Hayley Spira-Bauer and Nicola "Nikki" Soares, president of Kelly Education. Nikki, who began her career as a social studies teacher before moving into academic publishing and eventually leading Kelly Education, discusses the challenges facing education staffing today. She highlights the teacher shortage crisis, declining enthusiasm for the profession, inadequate compensation, and increasing demands on educators. Nikki advocates for reimagining education systems by making schools community cornerstones, better aligning curriculum with workforce needs, improving teacher compensation, and embracing alternative certification pathways. She explains that Kelly Education supports educators through professional development, mentoring, and recognition programs while using technology to efficiently match qualified teachers with schools. Nikki emphasizes the importance of measuring impact through classroom observations, teacher performance metrics, and fill rates. Despite current challenges, she remains excited about the renewed focus on educational excellence and advises new teachers to be purpose-driven in pursuing this essential profession.